A long list of rumors
Before I get started, I’d like to point out that the CCAA site said “before June 6″ and then included June 6. I had at least a dozen emails informing me that I was wrong with my speculations because they wouldn’t be including June 6. So, for future reference, that’s just the way the CCAA words things. That’s not to say they won’t change it without warning, but they’ve done that since the beginning.
I’d also like to comment on the “big agency vs small agency” thing. I think that some (not all) of the small agencies likely have better guanxi than some of the big agencies. I’ve listed agency size below, but I’m not sure it matters. It helps me to hear from you which agency told you something so I can get an idea if one agency is saying a particular thing or if multiple agencies are saying it. When I report it I’ll just report it as “big agency” or “small well known agency” or “medium sized lesser known agency”, something along those lines.
Most of the below items came in over the past several days, and much of it appears to be what the agencies were told in a face to face meeting while the CCAA delegation was on their world tour. As is usual, some of it conflicts and we are left wondering what to believe. An interesting note, one agency rep in Europe told one of their clients that trying to get information from the CCAA was chaos. Sounds like a fitting term to me.
- In mid April a very big agency told their people that no boxes had been packed at the CCAA and that they have someone there weekly.
- A lesser known agency puts out a monthly newsletter. Their March newsletter stated that the CCAA move was complete and the staff was in their new office and still in the process of getting organized so they could begin working again. (FWIW, this seems to agree with the timing of what my source told me.)
- One of the big agencies was told by Director Lu that he did not think the timeline would shorten in the near future.
- A couple of people who are agency shopping right now have sent me info about what they are being told from the various big agencies regarding the wait. I’m happy to hear that it seems that most are saying “right now it is X, but it is expected to increase to Y”. It also seems the longest any of them are saying it will increase to is 14 months.
- One of the big agencies was told by Director Lu that he does not want the timeline to go beyond 12 months, but feels it will.
- One of the big agencies is again reporting the “working to get more orphanages accredited” thing. We’ve been hearing this for a while, though it seems to conflict with the next item.
- Another of the big agencies says Director Lu stated the CCAA will not increase the number of babies being adopted because they don’t want more of their babies leaving the country. They will be matching about the same amount of children every month, they will not be increasing it.
- One of the big agencies is telling people to plan for a 14 month wait, but that could change, no way for them to know for sure, they are just guessing.
- One of the small agencies warned their people prior to the move that the wait would slow down even more than it already had while the move was taking place. This agency told someone with a very very late December LID to expect a 9 month referral rate at that time, but then when the Hunan issues hit this agency warned their people that the 9 months previously estimated was now likely to be 13 months as a result of the Hunan issue.
- A non-U.S. agency recently told someone with a mid September LID to expect a 16 month wait.
- There seems to be a brand new rumor. One I’m not giving a lot of credence just yet and would appreciate hearing from you if you’ve heard something similar so we can try to track down the validity. The rumor goes that an agency inside of China (not an orphanage, an agency) was prosecuted for some kind of illegal adoption paperwork, and that this is also taking up the CCAA’s time in investigating and documenting. The rumor goes that this is different than the Hunan issue. I’m having a hard time with this one because to my knowledge the only adoption “agency” inside of China is the CCAA, and I seriously doubt they were prosecuted for anything. Can anyone shed any light on whether there are even any agencies in China that could be prosecuted?
- At least two of the “China only” agencies here in the U.S. are working to get licensed in Vietnam.
- And this last bit of info comes from someone in Europe. Their agency says they have no idea how long the wait will get, but they expect it to surpass 12 months and possibly go as far as 19 months. They also warn that people paperchasing now should hurry, as they have heard veiled warnings from people within CCAA that the international adoption program will be closed soon, and that when that happens they will process everyone logged in and then that will be it.
Just a reminder: I’m not stating any of the above as fact, just reporting what has come in. I do know which agency and which country the last point comes from, and they are usually right. One person has emailed me the info and the person emailed it as someone would who speaks primarily another language. I usually wait until I hear something this earthshattering from two people from the same agency, but this came from a regular email address (not a freebie) with a domain of the country they are from, and didn’t have the feel of a hoax email, so I’m putting it out. If someone else who has heard this information would like to email me confirmation that you heard this from your agency I’d appreciate it. As requested, I will not post the country or the agency.
One last thing, I have future month log in numbers for four agencies. That isn’t going to give us enough info to do anything with. If ya’ll want me to put together a spreadsheet showing possible future months based on numbers from the agencies I need more data coming in. I would like to have at least 15 so that we have about 5% of the total number of agencies. When I post the info I will not post any agency name nor will I post specific numbers from agencies.
April 29th, 2006 at 1:21 pm
RQ,
I voted that we are DTC July 22nd-26th (we are the 25th). Do you want our agency name as well?
New to your blog and LOVE it! Thanks for all your work.
April 29th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Kimava - no need for agency name. Someone suggested I put together the info on how many LID’s each agency reports they have for future months and put that together to get another look at the same thing the polls are going to show us. I’m just saying that I don’t have anywhere near enough info yet to put that together.
April 29th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
Yet again…I am so confused!!! The last bullet point is terrifying. But, I have to wonder why on earth would they do a “good will” type of tour and meet with agency after agency if they were thinking of shutting down the program? It makes no sense.
April 29th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
I can’t substantiate that last point at all (and really don’t want to!!) but I have to say that the thought has crossed my mind that China is stockpiling all these dossiers so they have enough to last through X time period when they intend to shut down. I thought of that when I was trying to figure out why they’d keep accepting all this paperwork instead of setting quotas. B/C you know they weren’t blindsided…they knew they were getting more dossiers than they could handle. The other thought I had was that perhaps they were collecting dossiers to illustrate that they need more resources. Although…in looking at the graphs of referral waits over the years it looks like they didn’t institute a quota in the past until the wait hit 14 months. So, maybe they’re just following that format again…just some random thoughts.
April 29th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
In the past they announced the quota about 15 months before the wait hit 14 months. The wait didn’t come down until the dossiers accepted after the quota started being worked on, but the quota was actually instituted one year before the wait started coming down.
April 29th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
Hi RC,
I have a theory totally based on my own speculation. See what you think… On 2 of the all agency boards people have been reporting that their LIDs are being CHANGED! All had early in the month LIDs and now have been moved to end of the month LIDs. What I think this could mean is that CCAA is grouping people together to start sending out whole months again. If you look at your Aug. and July graph it may seem to show this new trend. What do you think?
April 29th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
Re: mcek’s post. Couldn’t the jockeying around of LIDs have the opposite purpose: moving people later in the month so that when they do HALF months, referral batches are more even? I like your optimism, MCEK, but i tend to be more of a pessimist. i hope your guess is right and mine is wrong!
funny, though, that i am assuming they will ever get back to half months, that is a huge assumption at this point.
April 29th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
RC–that makes more sense about when they instituted the quotas. I never have been good at reading graphs. :) That brings me back to wondering why they didn’t institute them again this time. But could be as simple as different leadership, I guess.
April 29th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
I’m not putting the changing of LID’s into any of my guessing. There are two agencies involved, but they are sister agencies. Apparently the large agency was telling people their LID was upon receipt of the dossiers instead of when they were actually logged in. Since the sister agency was depending on the info from the large agency they were also giving out faulty information. I don’t think this has anything at all to do with the CCAA and everything to do with an agency screw up.
April 29th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
Being one of the unfortunate people with a Changed LID, I can tell you that RQ is right. It is an agency screw-uip, nothing to do with the CCAA.
April 29th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
Ok all these rumors almost killed me this morning!! So I did some quick online research on baby trafficking, this has been a problem for quite some time. What I have read so far doesn’t indicate that it has worsened or been eliminated. So I am thinking that the selling of infants (which horrible and sad) is not impacting wait times. I am going with the move and the increase of dossiers. Visa’s issued for children adopted from China has increased by 1000 year each over the last 3 years!!
April 29th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
RQ-I am going through the channels to get our small agency to release LID’s for the past year. They don’t normally do this, we’ll see if they comply. For what it’s worth, our China coordinator thought it would be an interesting study to look at.
April 29th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Meg - the Hunan issue is the first time to my knowledge that baby trafficking has made it’s way into China’s international adoption program. If you’ve found something else please share. Kidnapping and selling within China has been a problem for a while and is brutally punished when the officials discover another ring. But that has nothing to do with the official adoption channels, which had been scandal free until the Hunan thing.
Also, the state department web site shows:
2002…5,053…8% Increase over the previous year
2003…6,859…35% Increase
2004…7,044…3% Increase
2005…7,906…12% Increase
The current slowdown has them doing less than 25% of what they did last year. So, unless there was a 75% increase in dossiers I don’t think the extra dossiers is the culprit. I think it could be contributing, but it’s not the sole culprit. I contend that we would be seeing a significant slowdown right now even if the amount of dossiers had remained exactly at 2004 levels.
Also, the year of the big jump of 35% increase in adoptions the CCAA actually managed to shorten the wait.
April 29th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
ok, since we are not logged in yet, I am crossing my fingers that the last comment isn’t true! When looking at the numbers from the state dept, and determining how many babies are being adopted, don’t you need to consider the visas issued by all adopting countries? Possibly the US has remained close to the same, but maybe other countries have increased significantly? I think the adoptions have been increasing especially in countries like Spain. Just my two cents>
April 29th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
CCAA has a new update on their site. Under news and under “to notify”. We need a translation! Anyone who can read it, please pass on the info. Thanks :)
April 29th, 2006 at 6:47 pm
Ignore my last comment. I used “google translate” and figure it out. :P
But if this was posted on the 29th then that would mean they were working today right? I hope they are busy matching!
April 29th, 2006 at 7:07 pm
Dear Cathy,
after your first comment I immediately mailed my chinese friend to ask her to translate the news on the ccaa site. a minute ago I looked at this site again and found out you know it already…but now I don´t know it yet…my friend hasn´t mailed me back yet. so….what did it say????
April 29th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
A member of the June DTC group informed the group yesterday that the CCAA would be working this weekend. She knew because there was a mix-up with some of her referral info and the CCAA is working on it over the weekend and will have the correct info to her agency by Monday.
I have to say the news made this June LIDer feel a little better about the long, silent week ahead.
April 29th, 2006 at 7:58 pm
RQ-
I thought the Hunan thing was determined not to have affected IA’s either??? At least as far as it was determined that the babies in question were not adopted internationally. I may just be forgetting part of it.
But that being said, Hunan wasn’t the first and won’t be the last case like this…affecting the IA program, however much that is. I think Hunan’s attention may have made everyone sit up and take notice and be a little more careful, but I doubt it’s anything new to anyone.
I personally think it has to do a lot with the Olympics and the pressure the gov’t feels it is under to show good face. Even though we think it looks good for them to get all these babies adopted out as fast as possible, to them it shines light on a problem. That’s just my opinion.
April 30th, 2006 at 2:34 am
Our Canadian agency met with Mr. Lu of CCAA two weeks ago. They have specifically told their clients that there is virtually no indication that China will be closing down international adoptions.
April 30th, 2006 at 2:44 am
Let’s focus on a rationale for a stop. Would China think it was better face to allow girls to accumulate in orphanages? My husband thinks that it would spark a HUGE int’l controversy to stop — so they would have not just pressure about human rights, but pressure about orphanages (remember Dying Rooms?) Slow down? sure. Stop? No way. Vietnam was temporarily closed — to get their stuff together — the program in China may have issues, but it is not broken. I agree that they would not have wasted time with a goodwill tour if they were quitting. Moving to SN only? Maybe so. Many people argue that MOST babies — whether labeled sn or not — have some degree of “special need” anyway (this was true for my first referal, but not for my second).
April 30th, 2006 at 3:01 am
Just as DebbieY said, our HUGE China-only agency also said in the latest newsletter that there would be no stop (and they hosted the CCAA delegation methinks).
April 30th, 2006 at 3:24 am
i agree with waitingmommy, i think the last( scary ) rumor point was probably a variation of the rumor we’ve been hearing for awhile about a major slowdown/shut down for the 2008 beijing olympics. Logic tells me that from late 2007 to late 2008, china is not going to want to been seen as “exporting” 1 2,000 babies per year — or even 6000 per year –internationally. its not good for their vision of themselves as a major world power. i am guessing that whoever was hinting that people submit their paperwork quickly because the shut down was coming was just someone who either suspected, or knew, that china would be wanting to tone down IA with the Olympics coming down the pike. I think that was a very smart warning.
i am gessing that the ccaa will want us to all “go away’ as we are a vestige of what they they once were as a first world country, not what they want to be seen as: a major world power.
the question is: how long will they want to shut down, for 6 months to a year, until the olympic spotlight blows over, or forever? do they want to leave us with just the SN and WC programs for IA, which is the impression i am getting after “the ccaa world tour” which really seemed to be a showcase promoting/focusing on the SN program, not the regular healthy-baby program which most us us are a part of…
April 30th, 2006 at 3:32 am
RQ-
I have future LID numbers for our medium sized agency…what is your email address? I’ve searched and searched, but can’t find it anywhere. Thanks - keep up the good work!!!!
April 30th, 2006 at 8:20 am
I wonder if the current slow-down and possible shut-down might have something to do with the Hague Convention that was signed by China in January 2006 and is to be signed by the USA in 2008. I know China has stated in the past that signing the Convention would have no influence on US-China adoptions but it really makes me wonder. Didn’t the slow-down start around Jan. 2006? To my understanding one of the main points of agreement among nations signing the Convention is to follow the following policy regarding trans-national adoptions: 1. every child should remain with their birth parents whenever possible, 2. or should be adopted by a family within their country of birth or 3. when those options are not readily available, then and only then should trans-national adoption be considered a viable option.
I believe that adoption agencies and professionals are meeting now in DC for the annual JCICS conference. It will be interesting to see if agencies will have any new information to share with their clients after the conference.
http://www.jcics.org/Annual_Conference.htm
I also wonder why the China-only adoption agencies are now getting licensed in Vietnam? Are they potentially reading the writing on the wall with regards to the future of China adoptions? Do they know something that may effect their future income and are trying to cover their bases by taking on adoptions in Vietnam too? Things that make me go hmmm…
April 30th, 2006 at 10:08 am
Khansen
Right at the top of the page there is a large ‘Contact Details’ heading and also a smaller one - click that and then on the next page there is a link for sending RQ an email
April 30th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
RQ,
I have been a lurker for a while, but coming out of lurkdom to make two points.
One. No babies involved in the “Hunan situation,” as you call it, were involved in international adoption. I speak with some authority on this point, as I am the mother of a child who came from the orphanage whose director was sentenced to prison for one year. Believe me, I’ve read every word in print about this story, as has everyone in the Yahoo group for families with a kid from that orphanage. We’ve been assured by multiple agencies (including the gigantic, China-only agency based in Colorado) and the agency I personally used (small, multi-country, based in the Northeast), and the State Department, that NONE of the involved babies was adopted internationally. This may or may not be true, but that’s the official story from the officials in Hunan. It’s also confirmed by the reporter from NPR named Anthony Kuhn, who personally sat in on the trial and filed the earliest reports. The Washington Post story, which came out a couple of weeks after the trial ended, was written by somebody who WASN”T THERE, and drew a lot of connections between things that weren’t connected. That reporter implied, without factual basis, that kids are abducted and then adopted internationally. While it is unfortunately true that children are abducted, there is no connection between that and Hunan, which appears to have been more about “baby laundering,” if you will. Unfortunately, lots more people saw the Washington Post story than heard the NPR report. Sorry to rant and ramble, but I’m getting tired of reading about how abducted babies wound up in Hunan and then got adopted internationally, because it just isn’t true.
Second. The facilitator from the agency we used is pretty well-connected, although the agency’s program in China is tiny. She and her dh, who basically ARE the program for that agency, were well-placed officials with the Chinese government who quit their jobs to do this for a living, out of sheer love for the babies. They both still have a lot of friends in high places. At any rate, our facilitator hinted in the fall of 2004, when we were in China, that the program might come to an end at some point in the not-too-distant future. I took this as a none-too-subtle hint to get our next dossier together as soon as possible after returning home. Which we did. I’m not saying she knows anything the rest of us don’t, but I do think there is a real possibility that the program will shut down at some point in the future. I also think that anyone with a dossier currently logged in will get a baby. It would be a gigantic loss of face for the Chinese to accept a dossier and then not make a referral. But I also think exporting 8,000 or so babies a year, though it’s a tiny drop in the bucket as far as the orphanage population goes, also creates a “face” issue in the minds of the Chinese powers that be.
I’m with you. I don’t think for one minute that there’s a lack of babies available, although there may well be a lack of paper-ready babies available. I think the major reasons for the slowdown are China becoming a signatory to the Hague Convention, more dossiers than paper-ready babies, and a desire by the central government to make it appear as though there’s less need for international adoption, whether or not that is true. Thus, I think CCAA is a foot soldier in the army, that its marching orders come from above, and that it has been told to slow down. Period.
Sorry for the going on at such length. I’m done now. Really.
Beth
April 30th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
I agree that in the end it has been concluded that no babies that were adopted were originally kidnapped or anything like that.
However, to my knowledge, this is the first time that China has had to deal with that possibility. It is the first time there has been a “scandal” of this sort involving an orphanage that is in the international program.
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As I’ve said before, it is quite normal for them to work for a weekend before or after a holiday. This means they are really only off for three days, not five.
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Click on the “Contact Info” link for my email address
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I’m also interested in hearing what (if anything) comes from the JCICS meeting.
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I don’t know what to think of the last rumor. My instincts tell me that I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see them close down NSN adoptions and keep the SN program open. It kind of looks like that is the direction they are heading by telling us there aren’t enough NSN babies available while working on shortening and streamlining the SN program. Whether that happens this year or next year or even the next. Who knows? But, if they are going to do it then I would guess that they will do it before the Olympics. With a 12 to 14 month wait that would mean they would stop accepting dossiers at the end of this year or maybe the beginning of next year. If in fact that is where they are going with this. And I’m not convinced that they are, but I can see the possibility.
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And last, I’m told that the easiest way to keep comment spam at bay is to make comments with links in them go into the moderate queue, which I’ve done. So if you post a comment with a link in it then if I’m not online it might be a bit before it gets approved. As of now the only posts that have to be approved are those with a link in them.
April 30th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
Th
April 30th, 2006 at 5:24 pm
Last summer my dh and I were at a reunion event hosted by our agency, the big China only one, and one of the owners talked about what was “best” for the baby girls and ultimately for China. This person communicated that it was not the “best” thing for the girls to leave China. This is also what China has now told the world by signing on to the Hague Convention. The owner then said that in his estimation IA in China had leveled and would stay that way for the near future but would slowly decline and in 10 years would come to an end. This owner said this to a packed room and made it no secret. At the time, we had just finished the paperchase and he reassured us that our adoptions would be fine. It now seems like a foreshadowing of what was just around the corner.
Ultimately, it is best for the child and for China that these children stay in their homeland IN LOVING HOMES not orphanages. Will the people of China be able to change their century old ways of viewing girls? Maybe. How soon? I don’t know. All I can think about are the little girls (and boys) in orphanages that need families. The “right/best” thing doesn’t seem to matter to the child going to sleep deprived of the love of a family. This journey to adopt our child has changed our hearts and minds forever. We will never be able to look at this situation as a political or sociological issue again. It is so personal now.
April 30th, 2006 at 7:47 pm
Like everyone else, this last rumor (of a possible shutdown) really scares me! However, I am also very grateful that we made it through the paperchase and now have a LID. I do find it interesting that the European agency is telling their clients to hurry up and get logged in as soon as possible and is stating that the wait could go to 19 months. Here are my thoughts:
- The CCAA seems to be logging dossiers in at a very fast rate right now (one week-ten days). Perhaps they are trying to register as many dossiers as possible before they are told to cut things off completely?
- If, as mentioned, they are planning to shut down the program before the Olympics, and the wait is going to climb to 19 months (with a two month wait to travel) you would think that they should stop taking new dossiers very soon (assuming that current DTC groups would not be traveling to China until Feb 08 with a 19 month wait to referral).
Only time will tell!
April 30th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Idog-I’ve thought the same thing about the log in dates speeding up. Maybe they are trying to log in as many people as they can before they make a major change or shut down the program. I’d like to think that agencies wouldn’t be accepting new families if they really thought the program would close.
The other side of me thinks that wait times will level off at 12 months. I’m trying to be optimistic.
April 30th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
I would be very curious to know how the Hague convention has affected the paperwork of the babies. Whereas we all go into reviewroom, from what I have heard, this has not been the case with the babies. Maybe the Hunan scandal has chnaged all that, adding paperwork and scrutiny when it comes to the files of the babies as well.
April 30th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
Hi…well I dont think there has been any real change overall in the length of time from DTC to LID. Every now and then something happens that causes a problem or a delay for a few groups but then it gets back to the 1 to 2 week time frame.
April 30th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
We talked to our daughter’s Godmother about the “boys only” attitude in China currently. She is in her 50’s so she grew up pre-one child policy and had her own family in the one-child time (she adopted a baby girl). She believes the thoughts have shifted in preference of boys over girls. She told us that the large majority of couples today would take either a girl or boy. It is their parents and grandparents that force the issue on them. So she believes as the older 2 generations die out in the next 10-20 years or so, so will the preference for boys.
In regards to Karen’s thoughts that having the orphanages full would be worse for their “face” than the massive flow of babies out of the country. I don’t think so because they can control (to a much greater extent anyway) who sees what orphanages, and my guess is with the influx of press, they will clamp down on that because…well, because they remember the Dying Rooms too.
But it’s hard for them to hide hundreds of non-Chinese families with Chinese baby girls walking around major towns in China. Many Chinese feel shame that they can not take care of their own children.
May 1st, 2006 at 12:14 am
What is most scary about all the talk of heading towards SN adoptions is that Australia does not have a SN program with China. I am trying to find out whether it is an Australian directive or China directive, but if the program heads down this path over the coming years, this is another country we will not have access to. I have requested our dept to find out what the deal is, and see if there is any room for negotiating. Does any country outside the US/Canada get SN lists?
At this stage Australia only adopts from about 6 or 7 countries now - Korea is almost at a standstill with a very restrictive quota put in place from 2006 onwards, Thailand, Ethiopia, Phillipines, India, Taiwan & China…doesn’t give us alot of choices if the China program becomes retrictive or looks at closing!
RQ, we look to you to keep us informed on what is happening - keep up the great work!
Eda D.C
May 1st, 2006 at 1:21 am
roxbygirl
Australians can and have adopted SN children from China. While we don’t (currently) have access to a waiting child program, you an request a child with defined conditions. I don’t see that the program would close to Australians if this particular rumour turned out to be true.
May 1st, 2006 at 9:11 am
I do sure hope the rumour of shutting down is not true.
It makes no sense to me to tour around the world and after that shut down the adoptionprogram.
It scares me a lot to think about it, however, hope to be logged-in before the end of the month. I haven´t heard of any of the agencies in my country (the Netherlands) telling this to ther clients.
To answer the question about special need: all three agencies in the Netherlands who have a China program, also have a special need program.
May 1st, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Here is what I was told (we actually picked up our daughter last month). While we were in China one of our guides said that several top ranking officials didn’t like that there were international adoptions- and wanted to stop them. He also said that there are many more people who want them to continue- including people at the CCAA. It is a political thing- and our guide said he didn’t think adoptions would stop anytime soon, if at all. It is just people in high places wanting to save face. (I really hope they don’t stop- we want another child and can’t start the paperwork for a while.)
May 1st, 2006 at 5:02 pm
My agency sent out a communication this past weekend. They were one of the agencies visited by CCAA and said that while the wait times may increase a bit, there is NO reason at all to believe the program will be shut down anytime soon. My agency is not one to speculate or predict anything, so I think it speaks volumes that they’re willing to stick their necks out on this subject.
May 1st, 2006 at 6:38 pm
Here’s a few other thoughts- CCAA has recently taken over running the domestic adoption program as well. I remember our guide told us last year that the government was beginning to support in-country adoptions (withdrawing penalties for couples who wanted to adopt but already had one child). With China signing the Hague Convention, it made me wonder if they would begin showing preference to Chinese couples adopting (I think yes, considering the CCAA’s involvement now). Also, they may thinking of their image “down the road” to 2008 and the Olympics. I remember South Korea beginning restrictions on foreign adoption after receiving bad press in ‘88. At present, I think that China only allows 13,000 children (non-special needs) to be adopted internationally and I doubt they would increase these numbers because of the increase in dossiers. Just a few thoughts….
May 1st, 2006 at 6:41 pm
Just wanted to add that I really hope they are promoting adoption within China. International adoption is such a small percentage of what their orphanage population must be! The thought that more of these kids would find homes (ones whose files aren’t sent to CCAA) is fantastic!
May 1st, 2006 at 8:47 pm
Just curious but wouldn’t having a rumor out that China may be stopping international adoption achieve the goal of less dossiers submitted? Another way to slow down dossiers?
May 2nd, 2006 at 5:58 pm
I’m not sure where to send this update. I originally voted that my LID is 8/5/05. However, I was recently informed that it is really 8/23/05. I wasn’t sure how to ‘change’ a vote.
(I am of the same agency(s) that are having the issues)
May 8th, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Just a couple of thoughts. Could the fact that they have appraised/reviewed all of the agencies be a result of wanting to have all of their I’s dotted and T’s crossed because of the Hunan situation, as well as the Olympics coming up and maybe the slow down was a result of those appraisals? Seems like that would take a lot of their time to complete.
My second thought is….and this is just a long shot…..do you think it is typical that when there is a big slowdown like this, more people are willing to adopt a SN children and maybe they slow things down to ignite that program?