Another random entry
First, I’ve got a few emails asking about the latest entry on the CCAA’s site. You can read the english machine translation here.
If you haven’t read through the comments yet for the Research-China’s latest blog entry thread of comments then you should. It turned into a wonderful discussion about a lot of adoption issues. I don’t know how I got lucky enough to have ya’ll for readers and commenters, but I just love the little community we have formed here. Thanks for a wonderful, thought provoking conversation. I’ve finally made a comment with my thoughts on things, too. I just couldn’t put it all together last night.
Someone who recently returned from China has let me know about the orphanages of a few cities. It appears that the orphanages in the vicinity of the relocations due to the new dam took a pretty hard it. Things are better now, but the numbers are still up from what they were. The numbers in 2004 were about four times the numbers from earlier in the decade. The numbers this year are about 60 percent of what they were two years ago, making the numbers this year more than double what they were earlier in this decade.
June 30th, 2006 at 9:55 am
RQ – I’m not sure I understand your last paragraph. Can you clarify what you mean by take it hard, what’s up 60% etc? Sorry to be slow. I have been wondering how the damn relocation was affecting things though, and i am very very interested.
June 30th, 2006 at 10:19 am
I’m not real sure what you mean? SWI seeing 60% increase or decrease in children since 2004? So sorry, I’m confused!
June 30th, 2006 at 10:29 am
Well thank goodness it’s not only me who is confused.
June 30th, 2006 at 10:36 am
I know! I am confused too!
June 30th, 2006 at 10:44 am
i think what’s being said is that the orphanages in the area where the dam ended up being built were relocated. as far as the amount of children goes…two years ago they had 4 times the amount than earlier in the decade. This year they are roughly 40% less which is still about twice the amount than earlier in the decade. meaning there’s alot of children in those orphanages.
did I get that right?
June 30th, 2006 at 11:15 am
I just wish they would make some of the older children more readily available. I am sure there are thousands of 3+ year olds, just waiting to be united with their forever families.
June 30th, 2006 at 11:26 am
Glad to see that you all didnt get it..I thought it was due to my english.. ;)
June 30th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
is it late july yet? ;P
June 30th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
Is it late August yet? :-( Now I know why my mother used to tell me not to wish my life away…ha.
June 30th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
ha is right! :)
we definitely need one of those “universal” remote controls.
June 30th, 2006 at 12:51 pm
I couldn’t help but chuckle at the word play…. the damn relocation and the relocation of the dam. For all its complexities, ya gotta love the English language.
jfkof3- I am with you. Today is the 10 month point of my wait. Wish we could fast-forward two months. I think this whole group would be ecstatic. As someone said earlier, where is that @#$!@ Adam Sandler remote?
PS Absolutley LOVED the thread last night. I’d like to echo my gratitude for the manner of respect and intelligence with which this group communicates. I have just about stopped reading at all my other groups because of the verbal attacks and lack of willingness to even consider the perspective of someone with an opposing view. Kudos to all!
Still waiting for Isabel Grace
LID 8/30
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
June 30th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
That is funny! I didn’t even reread it to pay attention to my mistake! At my house, we always call it the “Damn Dam”, and I guess I got that all mixed up, typing too quickly. And I know they are relocating people to make way for the dam(n), not relocating the dam . . . oui. Anyway, I don’t type as fast as I think. Too funny. :) Does anyone know how close you can actually get to the new dam, from a tour perspective? We are going to be very near there, and we really want to see it if possible. :)
June 30th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
If the orphanage had 75 kids in it in the early part of the decade then in 2004 there would have been 300 kids, and then this year there would be 180 kids. The math would go 75 times 4 times .6 in order to get the second two numbers.
June 30th, 2006 at 1:23 pm
methinks us August LIDders are getting antsy. :)
I know I am. I finally feel like things are getting closer with the passing of each month than further away. There for awhile after a referral group would go out and we’d all realise how ‘small’ (in the amount of days) it was there came the feeling that things had just been pushed back another month or two.
But after this last group…where they just about finished of June…it seemed like things were different. I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but I felt like a weight was lifted and that “THE DAY” was again moving towards us and not further away.
oh and I too would like to re-iterate how great that discussion was yesterday. I managed to not sound too stupid in the couple of posts I hope…and some of you all just blew me away with your posts. I feel like I learned a bit more after yesterday..and like I said was nice to see the different angles…perspectives on the topics discussed.
thanks again RQ for having this site and thanks again all for being so good. :)
June 30th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
tg, you’re a hoot and you are correct, we, august liders are antsy, but like you mentioned in a post a couple of days ago, there is that light at the end of the tunnel, we can now see it. Yea!!
mom2isabel, your home is a delight. i think you had a visitor on isabel’s changing table, great pic. pretty hibiscus in the back. thanks for sharing. i’m hoping to have our site soon.
emanuel, we all know where your mind is and we don’t blame you. your site is enjoyable.
RQ and the rest of this wonderful group, i hope your weekend is a ‘blast’…get it.
June 30th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
I feel the same as tgredthread– that the last batch of referrals have begun to bring us closer to our little girl vs. further away. My LID is 12/20/05 so I can only imagine how much more intense this feeling is for all of you with LID’s in the next few months.
You can bet I am routing for all of July in July– All of August in August– All of September and part of October in September (hey, everybody says Sept. is really small).
:-D
June 30th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
Yeah tgredthread I agree completely, both with you on the last batch of referrals making me feel like progress forward at last (Aug 9 LID here)…..and on wishing for the universal remote!! ;-)
June 30th, 2006 at 2:52 pm
This Aug Lidder is getting really antsy!! It does finally feel like it is getting closer like you said tgredthread!
I also want to thank everyone for the discussion yesterday.
When I saw that the topic was going towards how adopted children feel etc, I deliberately quit reading. BUT after I read RQ’s comment this morning I went back and reread the thread–you are ALL AWESOME!! I am adopted domestically ( a LOOONNNGGG time ago!). I have had so many negative experiences with this topic because I am a HAPPY adoptee. I have had people tell me I am in denial because I think my adoption was a great thing. I am always open to others and the fact that they feel differently and am okay with that. I don’t even tell people anymore on these sites that I am one of those weird happy adoptees because of what they say. You all are amazing. I have never read a more positive or civil thread on this topic-thank you so much for giving me faith back in adoptees and adopted parents that they can talk nicely and intelligently about this! I love this site!!!
June 30th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
tgredthread-
Too funny…except…
now I can’t get the kids song out of my head:
The ants go marching one by one…hurrah! hurrah!
:)
June 30th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
My dh was adopted domestically too and he had such a wonderful experience. It is true that some people feel negatively about being adopted but I think there are many more who have a good experience. It breaks my heart to hear the negative stories about people who are so hurt by it. I guess all I can do is love her and give her the best life that I can that includes her culture. I wish that the babies could all stay in China for them, but I am glad to have the chace to be a mommy to one. If the choice is an instition there or a loving family here I guess the love and family outways the rest for me. Every child should have someone who loves them like they are the best thing ever and that is what I hope to give her. I do hope things speed up because we are 11/23/05 lid and I can not wait to see her little face! The referrals this time really made me think she is real! :)
June 30th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
okay…a promise from all the Aug LIDders…
I, being a grown man, am not ashamed to say that when it’s time to get our referral, I am going to be doing the ‘Snoopy Dance’ all over the place. It’s fun and will be great to teach your kid when they’re alittle older (i’m going to teach it to my daughter)
so you guys (Ohioan for ‘all of you’) have to do that with me. okay?! :) if not, hey, i can snoopy dance by myself (think the wife has her own celebratory dance or something…hehe)
that’s all I have for now…must get back to work: everyone have a great weekend! :)
June 30th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
tgredthread….ohhhhh we will be doing the snoopy dance with you here in hot 112 degree Palm Springs! We love snoopy!!!
Kath
May 15,2006 LID
is it May 2007 YET????
June 30th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
tg and 4emily, count me in with bells on my feet. Snoopy…here we come.
lid-8-8
June 30th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
OK, Where is emanuel’s site? I want to look there too. I too enjoyed the conversation last night. I actually did read the Brian Stuy post and as said it was enlightening and a bit unnerving. We at least see light at the end of this tunnel. Has anyone heard anymore about surprise boy referrals? I saw a few on some blogs. they are precious. LID 9/15
June 30th, 2006 at 7:27 pm
allaboutava, for emanuel’s site try, http://gabriellajoyce.blogspot.com
have a good weekend.
June 30th, 2006 at 7:52 pm
Thank you jfkof3. I just went there and then went directly and bought the cleft palate bottles to take as a gift. Have a restful weekend to all. Hopefully more good news of Monday.