Comments on: Coming down from the mountain http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/ Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and then analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:27:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: eli http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4539 eli Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:58:20 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4539 Thank you, Ninasmom, for your very kind words -- and right back at ya! Thank you, Ninasmom, for your very kind words — and right back at ya!

]]> By: momladybird http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4525 momladybird Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:21:37 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4525 Regarding the cryptic email from AUSTRALIA - Its a load of HOGWASH! Dont listen to it for one minute whoever, is sending those emails they are trying to stir the pot! dont fall for it! I attended one of the gatherings that CCAA officials were at this week in Australia & there was NO such mention about the wait times "increasing" further! CCAA are trying to keep it to around the 12mon mark! it appears that it has been a "deliberate" attempt on CCAA's part to increase the wait from 6-12mons as they couldnt keep up with the current 6mons pace. FCC reps is having a meeting at the beginning of August with our government department (as we dont have private agencies here in Australia as FCC put forward to our government department if they could discuss with CCAA about wait times, so we should (hopefully) find out more then. So DONT listen to the CRYPTIC EMAIL! as there has been NO OFFICIAL WORD that wait times are goingto keep INCREASING! Regarding the cryptic email from AUSTRALIA – Its a load of HOGWASH! Dont listen to it for one minute whoever, is sending those emails they are trying to stir the pot! dont fall for it! I attended one of the gatherings that CCAA officials were at this week in Australia & there was NO such mention about the wait times “increasing” further! CCAA are trying to keep it to around the 12mon mark! it appears that it has been a “deliberate” attempt on CCAA’s part to increase the wait from 6-12mons as they couldnt keep up with the current 6mons pace.
FCC reps is having a meeting at the beginning of August with our government department (as we dont have private agencies here in Australia as FCC put forward to our government department if they could discuss with CCAA about wait times, so we should (hopefully) find out more then.
So DONT listen to the CRYPTIC EMAIL! as there has been NO OFFICIAL WORD that wait times are goingto keep INCREASING!

]]> By: RumorQueen http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4486 RumorQueen Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:34:30 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4486 I don't think CCAA is reading the site. But I can completely agree with your post. I don’t think CCAA is reading the site.

But I can completely agree with your post.

]]> By: Anxious Mummy-to-be... http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4483 Anxious Mummy-to-be... Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:30:35 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4483 If we haven’t received our referral in around 18 months (our LID was in March 2006) and there is still no real reasonable answer on this timeline from the Chinese government (instead of the party line of 12 months to referral when they continue to only process a week or two a month), we will be reconsidering the whole adoption process to China. This would absolutely break my heart—we have the baby’s nursery all set up, have studied extensively on China, taken parenting classes, Mandarin, etc. At 50 and 39, our lives have been put on hold during the wait—we are putting off a move or a house remodel, trying to save as much as we can, I am working a part-time job off the career track until the baby comes, we are nervous about our parents becoming sick or infirmed before we have their first grandchild, etc. Not to mention the fact that we have sunk a huge chunk of money into this adoption. I can’t help but be frustrated with China—I realize that you can’t “order up” a child, but for heavens sakes, the CCAA surely must know how many children needing homes are in the system, how many applications worldwide, and how many workers they have to process the applications, how long for CCAA closures and three weeks for their move (ugh), etc. Crunch the numbers and give us a reasonable, projected timeline--for such a progressive, process-oriented country, which is a world leader in technology not to know just doesn't cut it. At one time in the not so distant past, Chinese adoption used to be one of the most stable, enviable adoption processes in the world... I don’t know if I could say that now. CCAA, I hope you hear our discouragement and disappointment... If we haven’t received our referral in around 18 months (our LID was in March 2006) and there is still no real reasonable answer on this timeline from the Chinese government (instead of the party line of 12 months to referral when they continue to only process a week or two a month), we will be reconsidering the whole adoption process to China. This would absolutely break my heart—we have the baby’s nursery all set up, have studied extensively on China, taken parenting classes, Mandarin, etc. At 50 and 39, our lives have been put on hold during the wait—we are putting off a move or a house remodel, trying to save as much as we can, I am working a part-time job off the career track until the baby comes, we are nervous about our parents becoming sick or infirmed before we have their first grandchild, etc. Not to mention the fact that we have sunk a huge chunk of money into this adoption.

I can’t help but be frustrated with China—I realize that you can’t “order up” a child, but for heavens sakes, the CCAA surely must know how many children needing homes are in the system, how many applications worldwide, and how many workers they have to process the applications, how long for CCAA closures and three weeks for their move (ugh), etc. Crunch the numbers and give us a reasonable, projected timeline–for such a progressive, process-oriented country, which is a world leader in technology not to know just doesn’t cut it.

At one time in the not so distant past, Chinese adoption used to be one of the most stable, enviable adoption processes in the world… I don’t know if I could say that now. CCAA, I hope you hear our discouragement and disappointment…

]]> By: NinasMom http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4455 NinasMom Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:22:50 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4455 eli - I'm sending you a big good luck hug. You will obviously be an amazing parent to care so much...it WILL all be worth it in the end. Let's just hope (and pray) that the end is in sight...at least with 20/20 vision! :) eli – I’m sending you a big good luck hug. You will obviously be an amazing parent to care so much…it WILL all be worth it in the end. Let’s just hope (and pray) that the end is in sight…at least with 20/20 vision! :)

]]> By: eli http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4443 eli Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:59:49 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4443 Ninasmom, i agree completely. I would also use the word 'unforgiving' --its the perfect word to describe how i am starting to feel. everyone says ' it will all be worth it' when the baby finally arrives, but if its 3 years from now, and i am in my mid forties and i have spent all that time waiting for my FIRST child when i could have been pursuing other options, i will be very unforgiving. of course i will feel it was all worth it, but i will still be angry about the length of time i had to wait and the misleading statements and the purposeful withholding of information along the way... Ninasmom, i agree completely. I would also use the word ‘unforgiving’ –its the perfect word to describe how i am starting to feel. everyone says ‘ it will all be worth it’ when the baby finally arrives, but if its 3 years from now, and i am in my mid forties and i have spent all that time waiting for my FIRST child when i could have been pursuing other options, i will be very unforgiving.

of course i will feel it was all worth it, but i will still be angry about the length of time i had to wait and the misleading statements and the purposeful withholding of information along the way…

]]> By: NinasMom http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4440 NinasMom Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:42:39 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4440 With a LID of March 9, 2006 I'd just like to be told the truth so I can grow my family another way. I will be unforgiving if I wait three years when I could keep my children close in age by going to a different country. With a LID of March 9, 2006 I’d just like to be told the truth so I can grow my family another way. I will be unforgiving if I wait three years when I could keep my children close in age by going to a different country.

]]> By: glassmaker http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4437 glassmaker Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:31:42 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4437 At some point wouldn't the CCAA have to make some kind of public statement (to everyone - all agencies not just a few) about what is going on? I would think that if this next batch is for just a few days then agency's would start to be flooded with phone calls from their clients demanding more information about just how long this is going to continue. I know we are at the mercy of the CCAA but this seems to be getting out of hand. Am I right in saying that the last delay with a wait of more than 12 months was due to SARS so at least everyone knew the reason? At some point wouldn’t the CCAA have to make some kind of public statement (to everyone – all agencies not just a few) about what is going on? I would think that if this next batch is for just a few days then agency’s would start to be flooded with phone calls from their clients demanding more information about just how long this is going to continue. I know we are at the mercy of the CCAA but this seems to be getting out of hand. Am I right in saying that the last delay with a wait of more than 12 months was due to SARS so at least everyone knew the reason?

]]> By: amygum http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4433 amygum Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:13:41 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4433 It is the time of the month for the negative rumors. I still believe in my heart that 12 months is it! I guess this month will tell us what is true. It is the time of the month for the negative rumors. I still believe in my heart that 12 months is it! I guess this month will tell us what is true.

]]> By: RumorQueen http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/comment-page-1/#comment-4432 RumorQueen Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:22:40 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/13/coming-down-from-the-mountain/#comment-4432 Mary, back in March the word was that the CCAA is not comfortable with anything over 12 months and did not intend to go over. That came from CCAA. My source's feeling was that once the Hunan issues were history and once they got moved, that we would see a speed up. So, I would love to have an update from this source about what their feelings are now, and whether they are still hearing the 12 month thing from the CCAA. Mary, back in March the word was that the CCAA is not comfortable with anything over 12 months and did not intend to go over. That came from CCAA.

My source’s feeling was that once the Hunan issues were history and once they got moved, that we would see a speed up.

So, I would love to have an update from this source about what their feelings are now, and whether they are still hearing the 12 month thing from the CCAA.

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