From another agency
I have this from several people, but no one has told me the agency it comes from.
This one states that the CCAA has confirmed to them that the delay is due to the increase in number of applications – during the last year the CCAA received 10,000 applications. The CCAA can only process around 700 and 800 applications per months. CCAA is currently receiving around 2,000 applications per month. If the trend continues, the CCAA anticipates waiting times may increase to 18 months or even more. The positive part of the email is that the CCAA has stated that they have a clear intention of continuing with adoptions, even if waiting times are longer.
July 17th, 2006 at 7:55 am
Okay my head is spinning.
So…in the last year they received 10000 applications and can – by doing 700-800 referrals a month – keep that to a month per month. But they haven’t. By a LONG way. The more recent (according to this) 2000 a month are still a long way from referral and already they’re not coping. This MUST be because of OTHER factors. Must be. Or we’d still be at a month per month. So it’s not just “our fault” for being over-enthusiastic!
July 17th, 2006 at 8:08 am
perhaps i’m confused, but 800 per month is 9600 for a year which is what the US was around last year (???). and if the numbers were correct, last year they said around 13000 which averaged to alittle under 1100 per month.
So if this ‘last year’ is in reference to 05 LIDs, then this would mean the CCAA is definitely matching fewer children per month than the year before…on purpose I suppose…increasing the wait time…???
still early…need more caffiene.
still just waiting to get to the end of this week when we might hear more solid info about this next referral group…
July 17th, 2006 at 8:21 am
Maybe RQ meant to type 20,000?? You’re right TG – need caffeine. Too early for me to be doing math in my head.
July 17th, 2006 at 8:41 am
I would guess that 700-800 would be all countries. I believe that I read that other countries had an increse in applications also.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:06 am
I’m a bit confused by the numbers as well. The only thing I can figure is that maybe they meant that the CCAA has alreadly logged 10,000 in this year. If you figure that is through June then that would average about 1700 per month, and if there were less in January and February then it could be 2,000 per month now.
But, I’m just guessing.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:12 am
Long time reader- first time post- with a LID 5/29… ARGH!!!!!
I’m so sad…
July 17th, 2006 at 9:20 am
Buy stock in Kleenex…it will be going up today. Pardon me while I go cry in frustration during my allotted time for self-pity. I feel completely deflated right now.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:35 am
I just want to say how sorry I am that this is happening. When we realized it would take three months to get through June, I was really really upset, but I couldn’t imagine what people after me were going through. The fact that the wait could climb this way is just so discouraging and such a let down. I am so sorry for those of you logged in after July.
Yesterday I told my dad we’d probably be traveling in September, and he said, “well, if the adoption happens.” AGH. Even this close to referral he is still doubting it will happen because of all the delays. It’s so frustrating, because no one would ever say that to a pregnant woman–I know the situations are different, but the emotions are similar.
My heart goes out to all of you. And it goes out to three of my friends, who are all logged in July 14th–end of July, and if rumors are correct will miss this cut off (and I really, REALLY wanted to travel with you guys!)
Big hopes that these rumors are all wrong, and that the CCAA surprises us all.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:44 am
If they are so back-logged then maybe the CCAA should stop accepting dossiers for a short time, put all their efforts into reviewing and matching what they have and when they are sufficiently caught up – start again. I mean no offense to anyone when I say this but they seem to be getting bogged down and the process is becoming laborious for all parties. At this point many of us will have to redo our homestudies and I-171H, etc. This includes the people who are in the paperchase phase, DTC phase and new LIDer’s. It seems unfair to continue to accept dossiers while they are are still reviewing November 2005′s. I remember being advised to gather my paperwork as quickly as possible – we were even advised to apply for the I600-A and fingerprints sooner because they were raising the fee – in hindsight I wish I had paid.
And this may qualify for understatement of the year but would it not be easier to accept the wait if we truly new the reason for it?
At the heart of this issue are the children who are waiting those 12-18 months longer than they should have to.
Hang in there – it will happen.
LID 2/28/06
July 17th, 2006 at 9:49 am
OK – I’m trying to wrap my head around this whole 18 month thing. It seems like its coming from a few sources so I’m going to put up with it hoping that a better rumour comes in soon. That said, does anyone have any clarity on whether this is 18 months for recent/new LIDs or whether that is the new timeframe for all those logged in (including us Aug LIDs).
What I’m trying to understand is whether we think July and August will still be 13-15 months and it will creep up from there or if it will take us another 6 months to get to mid August! I can barely believe I am typing that.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:51 am
NOvary- thanks for the post for those of us who are soooo close now. (8.10 LID)
The DW and I have to just keep focused that we need at least 11 business days matched from now through Sept’s group (with us in that group) to make it w/o having to re-do anything but fingerprints. It’s only alittle over two more months…the CCAA can do at least 11 business days each time…they can.
July 17th, 2006 at 9:52 am
In talking to my case manager this weekend, she said various agencies are seeing significant decreases in the number of interested individuals actually deciding to move through the dossier process. (And several of them are becoming concerned about it–these would be smaller agencies she works with.) I’m sure this is due to the increased wait. So, this could mean that as they are ramping up to meet the current demands, if the number of dossiers decrease, the wait time will again go down. The question is when…I would say it could look good for those paperchasing right now. But, you never know! (Or if any of us are going to go through this again year after this one!)
LID 12/20/05
July 17th, 2006 at 10:02 am
This thing about so many dossiers being received in 2005 is not new information. We’ve been hearing this for quite some time now. While the numbers aren’t making huge sense, this information should not surprise anyone. I have felt all along that the bulk of the “delay” has been mostly because of the number of families who applied in 2005. I’ve heard over and over that the earlier months of the year (apr, may…) they had three times the number of applications. That would certainly explain the slow down. If China only allows so many IA and there are three times the number of applications….
July 17th, 2006 at 10:03 am
WaitingforM–I think that is the question of the hour. We’re Oct LID. Will we wait 18 months, or will the 2006 people wait the maximum? It’s essentially a selfish question (“Who is going to get the royalest screwing?”), but we all know it sucks for all of us.
I hate to sound defeatist, but I’ve lost any incentive to rumor troll now. What is the point of analyzing? If they keep up with 2 weeks at a time, that gives us a Feb referral, which is 7 months away. I can’t keep doing this for that much longer. The roller coaster will kill me. Believe me, I LOVE this site. But many, many signs are pointing to an 18 month wait. Are we gluttons for punishment to continue to hope otherwise?
I think I might be moving through the stages of grief, and I’m on acceptance. Or maybe I’m still on depression and hoping to get to acceptance soon. We watched “Brokeback Mountain” recently, and there’s a line in there: “If you can’t fix it, Jack, you gotta stand it.” Boy did that resonate.
7 more months for a picture? I can’t even wrap my brain around it. And that would only be a 16 month wait!
July 17th, 2006 at 10:11 am
I guess with a 11/22 LID, I am just going to assume we will have an 18-month wait, and anything better will be awesome. Yes, I definitely feel for those of you with a 2006 LID. I also can’t help but feel frustrated that my husband wasn’t 30 until October 2005 even though we decided to adopt from China in August 2004, but it’s not like we could do anything about that. Then there was the I-171H wait, which put us a month behind where we wanted to be for DTC. But I certainly don’t think anyone ever saw this long of a wait coming.
Well, as much as I wanted our trip to New York City last year to be our last vacation and to just focus on saving money for the adoption, I think I hear a beach in Mexico calling my name…….
July 17th, 2006 at 10:12 am
I am with you marythefifth! I am out of here!! I have a 12/15/05 LID and was hopeful last week that I would receive a referal between Nov-Jan. as per current rumors and the father with the LID of 12/10/05, who was told by the Head of the CCAA that is when he could expect his referal. So someone or something is totally screwed up. But I am not going to waste the rest of my time trying to figure it out. Someone once told me “a watch pot never boils”. So I am going to stop watching my pot and just check in once a month. See ya all!
July 17th, 2006 at 10:12 am
Two thoughts – one is a reiteration that I think this may be CCAA’s way of reducing interest levels in the program. These projections would clearly reduce the interest that future APs have with Chinese adoption. If I had been told 18 months wait time, I think we would have decided against it, because … we’re not getting any younger! Secondly, I can’t fathom why CCAA wouldn’t use quotas if they can’t “handle” numbers greater than 700-800 a month (not sure if that’s a not enough workers or not enough babies thing). This increase started happening in mid-2005. Why wait until mid-2006 to announce “uh-oh, we are backlogged”? Is this a difference in East-West thinking, or am I just applying business modeling to a government agency?
I’m still going with the thinking that this is an attempt to reduce future interest levels in IA because China wants to reduce the gender disparities or increase domestic adoption, or some internal agenda that they don’t want to share with either APs or the rest of the world.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:25 am
I am feeling the same as marythefifth. With a Nov 7th LID It could be next summer possibly before we get a referral,and honestly I am just not able to deal with that right now.That is three times longer than we were told when we started the process. And I know there was always the statment it could change but this is more that we anticipated. Our conservative agency gives us no information, just a monthly update with the same add ons every month and a statement saying when they hear it from the CCAA we will. Not much help to me in this situation.
I too feel that they should temporarliy close the program and deal with what they have now. If in fact fewer babies are being abandoned (which of course would be what we all intellectually would want to see happen)how can they really know what is going to happen with the wait-they can’t. All very frustrating right now and for me hard to believe it is ever going to happen for us.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:35 am
A couple of the posters above brought up my burning question:: 18 months for whom? If they wanted to stretch it to 18 months over the next 5 months, all they would have to do is refer 3 or 4 days at a time for the next 5 months, and then voila, we’re at 18 months. This is what they did to get to 12 months. So, with a Nov Lid, will i have a referral next summer, 3 times as long as I was told when we applied, or will I have a 13 or 14 month wait? And why does my large, China-only Texas based agency tell us NOTHING????
Sorry, very frustrated this morning. WHen my husband hears this rumor he’s going to blow his top. He doesn’t even believe we’re expecting a baby anymore :(
July 17th, 2006 at 10:38 am
i don’t think they would actually close the program in order to ‘catch up’. they would however re-instate the quota program that they did several years back.
The question or subject that RQ has brought up before was ‘why haven’t they?’
July 17th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Do we have any referral rumor dates yet? I saw on the forum someone mentioned a cutoff of 7/13 but the referrals wouldn’t go out until early August. Has anyone heard/seen any better news?
July 17th, 2006 at 10:47 am
marythefifth – yup it was essentially a selfish question as I try and wade through all of this and guess at our timelines…that said…I really do think we all deserve to get some answers and information – regardless of whether we’re next, just DTC or planning to go back for #2 etc. And I’m with you on the lost incentive for getting more info. I kinda keep hoping that I’m going to come to this site and hear something positive or at least defiinitive and clear about the 18 months. It is so great to be able to at least have this forum where you can chat with people who get it. I don’t even bother trying to explain this to friends and family anymore – we just say “we haven’t heard anything” whenever we get asked.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:49 am
We’re just starting the paperchase and the news ias so dismal as of wait times. I should follow marythe fifth’s advice and stay away from this site for awhile. It’s where I am procrastinating big time. I definitely will be back, but maybe, just maybe I should take a vacation from In Search og Rumours. Kathryn (Don’t know if I actually will take that advice, but I should)
July 17th, 2006 at 10:54 am
As with many others here, I too feel defeated.
After being in this process for over a year, and wait times increasing threefold from when we began; I wonder if we made the right choice.
This is the only place I get any info whatsoever, as our Seattle based agency gives us no info, nor do the seem to know a damn thing. God forbid you even ask them a question…
Like Marythefifth – I’ve lost my incentive and am weary of the grieving. I also feel badly that I’ve drug my husband through all of this, and spent hard earned money for something that does not seem to be a sure thing any longer.
Holly
LID 2/24/06
July 17th, 2006 at 10:56 am
I have to agree with the last couple of posters. This news is so depressing I think i need to take a break from all of this for a week or two. With an LID of March who knows when or if I’ll ever get a referral.
I’m trying to hold back tears even as I type this. At the risk of sounding overly dramatic, this is just cruel and insensitive from the CCAA. It’s not like they have an assembly line of products where they can attribute some economical supply/demand mentality. Their business is children who have been abandonded, and need loving nurturing homes.
I know we all like to think of adoption as this totally altursistic act on our parts — that it’s only about the children. But the reality is that as prospective parents we have a huge investement in this process, and I don’t mean financially. My adoption journey is one of the most emotionally charged I’ve ever experienced. It is something that I think about every day. It affects the decisions I make almost daily. And lately, the news just keeps getting worse and worse. It’s really difficult to even open the door to the nursery.
Sorry for rambling on. I just needed to get that out.
July 17th, 2006 at 10:56 am
gretchen, i’m with you…
I’m hoping to start seeing something as well…although I don’t think the real good (psuedo-) solid stuff will come until near the end of the week.
July 17th, 2006 at 11:08 am
NOvary –
right there with ya…my mom said that she hopes i don’t start menopause before the baby comes, because, she thinks it would be a mess if i got moods swings and hot flashes while handling the arrival of the new baby (thanks mom).
could it be worse than the moodiness cause by being so close to our 7/25 LID and yet feeling like there is no end in sight????
the only positive for my disposition is that I have only been reading this blog for a few months i.e. since the unexplained slow down. if i had started reading soooo much conflicting info earlier in the process i would have lost my mind by now!
i’m still hoping for Oct. travel!
July 17th, 2006 at 11:29 am
We have been putting off a friend in Key West about coming to visit this fall/winter, when it cools down! I guess I should just jump in and go. I am no longer putting my life on hold for this. When the baby comes it does.
July 17th, 2006 at 11:38 am
NOvary & Waiting for Jade – I’m pretty certain MY moodiness has to do with being so close yet so far (LID 7/20/05). Plus, we’ve been paper pregnant for a year now! Those hormones have really built up over time :)
July 17th, 2006 at 11:40 am
OK everyone calm down! I am reading all of this and remember this all just RUMORS!(no offense Rumor Queen). The fact is no one really knows what CCAA is going to do. I will not think of what they are going to do or even try to guess. I was in the SARS shut down and no one knew what was going on and everyone was saying it was going to push us back another 4 months. Then CCAA doubled referral batches. People were getting thier referrals in 8 months and NO Agencies knew this was coming. Any Agency who is telling thier families that the wait is going to eighteen months should not be saying this unless it is in writing from CCAA! Maybe Agencies are saying sure IT COULD go longer but they do not know! So please try to keep calm and I bet things will pick up again. They always do! DTCL 10/13 Tara NY
July 17th, 2006 at 11:46 am
My dh and I feel like our lives have been on hold for 4 years with infertility treatments, etc. and now to have to endure the increasing wait… it’s enough to send me screaming into the streets. With a 12/14/05 LID I too am wondering exactly who is going to have to wait 18mos and unfortunately it seems that we will only be able to figure that out as the months go by. Yep, it’s wine and chocolate for dinner tonight!! Hang in there everyone, there has to better news at some point.
July 17th, 2006 at 11:50 am
well said Craftie… :)
July 17th, 2006 at 11:57 am
mommytomeiling, NOvary and Waiting for Jade,
With a 7/25 LID as well, I can relate! ARGHHHHH! I am VERY HOPEFUL, however, that we will see our referrals by the end of August and travel early October………we’ve just GOT to believe that!! Hang tough!
July 17th, 2006 at 11:57 am
My heart is breaking. My agency requires an agreement stating that if we become pregnant then we have to put the adoption on hold. In the meantime, we stopped all treatments after 1 IVF and subsequent miscarriage to move forward with adopting our little girl from China. With the increasing wait, it makes me angry that we stopped TTC and put all our eggs (so to speak) in the adoption basket. We’re LID 12/5/05 and I can hardly bear the thought of waiting another whole year.
July 17th, 2006 at 12:24 pm
Hey all… the CCAA site is back online!
Claude
July 17th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
as a current paperchasing family (just waiting on the 171h and it’s been 55 days now…expected to go the full 90), we’re looking at early-August to early-September DTC time. I guessed a mid-month LID.
Went to Bright Outlooks – put in through July 11 for this month, and 17 days for the next 2 months. Then 14 days per month thereafter. According to that we have close to 30 months to wait. I just can’t believe that will actually happen.
BUT, back in March we were hearing rumors of 18-24 months for referrals, but the CCAA was saying “increase to 12 months” now it’s rumors of 24-36 months and CCAA is saying increase wait to 18 months. So, with that pattern, I’m almost believing the LOOONG wait time.
As another from an agency that puts us on hold if we become pregnant, I’m a wee bit frustrated because we could become pregnant, have the baby, and the baby would be almost 2 when we got the referral this point (well that is a HUGE IF we could get pg quickly which is entirely doubtful since I don’t know of any RE’s that would allow us to immediately start treatments this month).
I just can NOT believe that we are looking at a referral of February 2008 at the very earliest. When I started this whole process (6 months or so before my 30th bday), I truly thought we were staying VERY far away from the Olympics. Guess that is what happens when you have one of the longest paperchases in history! LOL We’re coming up on 9 months (due in large part our own governmental agencies having things go “wrong” like the 90 days for the 171H form instead of their average 28 days like in months past).
July 17th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
I feel so bad for the folks who are just starting the process. With a LID of 6/29, we’re frustrated, but we’re happy knowing that we’re next. Hang in there everybody.
July 17th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
I just spoke to someone at my agency and they are completely clueless to any of the 18 month talk. They are still being told 12-13 months. Either, they aren’t telling us what they know or they just don’t know.
I went from telling Grandma and Grandpa earlier this week, maybe January. Now I can’t bear to tell them next summer.
I agree with a lot of you , the best thing for our sanity might be to stay away from these web sites, this isn’t good for the health.
I just never know what to believe.
LID 11/18
July 17th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
Chinagirl6886 and Metonda:
My hubby said the same thing. “Stay off those rumor boards”. But, curiosity killed the cat and I can’t help myself.
With a LID of 05/15/06, a November 2007 referral date kills me, but I hate the heat. And if we got to travel next summer, the heat would be 100+ degrees. I would endure it though as it would bring our baby home quicker. I have an email out to my agency to see if they heard anything. Will let you know.
July 17th, 2006 at 1:41 pm
My very large China only agency has predicated by December 06 the wait will have reached 15months. They continue to believe about 10 days worth of referrals a pop. But they are also conservative and only base on the past. They also predict July 11 cutoff this time, who knows why.
July 17th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
breezy-
because it’s 9 business days to 7/11 and that’s what the last referral group was (6/16 to 6/28= 9 business days)
we apparently have the same agency. and all that chart is is predictions based on the amount of days this last referral group was. :) I expected that’s what it would be. And I’m guessing that if they actually go to the 13th this next group, which is 11 business days…next month’s chart will be based on 11 bus. day referrals. ;)
July 17th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Oh for goodness sakes!! These are just RUMORS!! Please don’t let second-hand, third-hand, umpteenth-hand information rule your emotions or dictate your decisions. For all we know some of this information can be misinterpretation, the true meaning could be lost in translation, it could be worst-case scenarios, or it could be someone just tossing out evil rumors for sport to watch the “spin†on this board. Use this topic for example. The numbers don’t mathmatically make sense.
I know in my heart that my daughter is in China and I WILL have in my arms soon. I look back on my life and while things may not have always occurred the EXACT way I have scripted them out in my head… the end result turns out to be better then I could have imagined. This is true of the bad times and the good times. It’s all perspective.
Stop torturing yourselves. Rumors can be fun when you play the “what if†games… but NOT when you treat them as FACTS.
July 17th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
breezy: thanks, best news I heard all day. Your agency’s news would fit the official australian gov’t/CCAA message of “18 months over the coming year” as meaning over the coming 12 months — that the times will go up, gradually lengthening, putting Nov/Dec ’05s at 14 or 15 months…. I’ll gladly take a february referral.
(RQ: thanks for the news today. Not your fault that it brought out a glumfest, nor that someone used you, on an earlier thread, for a bit of a punching bag. You were in no way sarcastic as accused; you sounded polite and trying to be calm & clear, despite provocation.
We needed that official Aussie news. Shoot the messenger, indeed.)
July 17th, 2006 at 3:29 pm
Okay, here goes.
You know what really, really bugs me? People who come on a rumor site, read what everyone has written–how they are so upset at the prospect of waiting 18 months for their babies–and then tells everyone, basically, that they are idiots for listening to rumors.
You know what? RQ has said, time and time again, that we all deal with the wait in different ways. If it helps you to live in your world where 18 months will not happen, where you will meet your daughter sooner than later, where you don’t let rumors bug you, then fine. But please, PLEASE don’t come here and tell people who are freaking out that they aren’t right to do so. I would venture to guess that this is the VERY place that they are MOST comfortable venting about rumors–lord knows that most of the world doesn’t understand.
So if you feel like bashing people for believing in rumors, or if you feel like getting all upity and telling people they shouldn’t believe or shouldn’t feel bad or whatever, I would ask that you not do it here.
I remember back when I started the long wait. It was at two months and things started slowing down. I freaked. Rumors said things might start to slow down as the wait got longer. A few people said “hogwash.” And you know what? The wait got longer and longer. So please, before you insult or chastise people, remember that we come here to read and talk about rumors. This is not the “Fact Queen’s” site, for goodness sake.
July 17th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
Some of us appreciate people occasionally reminding us that these are indeed rumors and not fact so please don’t insult people who do that.
July 17th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
NOvary–Amen sistah! Big smooch to you.
July 17th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
debraj, I don’t think I insulted anyone. In fact, I felt insulted myself.
If you need a reminder that these are indeed rumors please look at the title of this website! ;)
I don’t mind someone saying “these are rumors,” but a few posts I read seemed pretty over the top.
July 17th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
I was just trying to be positive. Some people are getting so upset about the rumors. People need hope.
And NOvary. That HURT!!! This wait is hard enough but to toss in person insults is just hurtful.
July 17th, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Some of us that like to have a place to have the occasional meltdown without the emotional splatter ending up all over our family, friends and co-workers. For me, this site allows me the freedom to vent when needed. I think we all know these are just rumors, but for me at least, I am so thankful to have ANY information that I don’t mind that the information I get must be taken with a giant salt lick. However, just because I occasionally throw myself a pity party does not mean that I am incapable of understanding that rumor is not fact. The understanding of those going through the same thing that I am is one of the bright spots during this seemingly interminable wait. I do appreciate the voices that offer the more positive takes as well. Sometimes groupthink will lead us all to doom and gloom if we let it, so those voices are very much appreicated (by me).
July 17th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
ladies…ladies…
from my perspective:
WaitForChloe- I see what you were trying to do…hell my wife tells me off and on about how the rumours seem to stir everybody up and that they are to be just taken as rumours. I know you meant well, but it did come off as alittle condescending.
NOvary-I do remember how some of your older posts came across as well sooo yeah I can see where waitforchloe is alittle ‘stung’. ;) But I have to say that you’ve been a great source of calm over the past month or two since your referral time is on-hand. I agree like you said that everybody here should be able to deal with what’s going on the way the feel they need to.
I trust that all of us here know that most of what’s here being posted is or based on rumours and speculations. It’s hard not to get caught up in some of it all…i know I have occasionally too. However, we are all in this together..some of us closer to the end of the wait while others are just starting out, but we’re all here to be a part of the ‘community’.
to borrow a famous line…’why can’t we all just get along?!’
:)
zai jian!
July 17th, 2006 at 6:17 pm
Ah. waitforchole, I respectfully apologize. I understand where you were coming from. I overreacted–too much sun and hives, you know ;) I didn’t mean to come across so blech, I’m sorry. I usually restrain myself a little better (ha!)
Sometimes, as I know from experience, I just want to wallow in my doom and gloom and not have anyone tell me things will get better because sometimes that just seems like brushing away my pain. But I know you were just trying to be sweet, and I was a big ninny. Accept my apology?
tgredthread–um, yeah, I remember –and my only excuse is adoption hormones. ;P You’ve been great too. I really need to learn how to control those pesky things. *Blushes* Sorry!
July 17th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
Emotions are running high today. I’m pretty sure that I am too emotional to try to be levelheaded. My first thought towards the “get a grip!” comment was to play the part of the Queen in Alice in Wonderland and give a big “OFF WITH HER HEAD!”.
But, like I said, I’m pretty emotional today so I’m not doing much of anything except to report what I see and just hope that there are no fires for me to put out today.
Hopefully I’ll be able to find my calm moderator hat tomorrow, I seem to have misplaced it this afternoon.
I’m going for a walk.