Just to clarify
Agencies who are reporting a cut-off date are reporting 7/13 with one exception. The exception is reporting they expect to receive through 7/15.
Someone in the comments to the last thread stated that someone with a 7/22 LID was told to expect her referral next Friday. I have PM’d this person for more information. This is a “someone told the person who told us” rumor, and I’d really like to get closer to the source, or at least find out the agency saying this. I’d also like to hear this from more than one person, and preferably more than one agency.
And, as reported on the last post, someone with a 7/26 LID has been told by BLAS that they will be included in the next batch. They are not saying this will be the next cut-off, just that the next batch will include this date. I have reason to consider this a very credible statement.
I feel comfortable concluding the following from all of this:
- The current batch should finish arriving at agencies Monday and will include 7/13
- The next batch should include through at least 7/26
- We have a realistic chance that the next batch, expected at the end of August, may arrive before then. We also have a realistic chance that it won’t.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:32 am
Thanks for revisiting those “further in July” rumors, RQ. I checked in from vacation last Wednesday, read rumors about July 22 and July 27 (http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/25/cut-off-rumors/#comments) and dh and I spent the rest of the week on Cloud 9, feeling like our Oct. LID wasn’t so far away anymore. Then I checked again yesterday and boy was my bubble burst. I keep thinking to myself, “Well, where the heck did those other rumors come from?” Of course I realize they are just RUMORS, but at this point I feel like the agencies are SO conservative and this situation so unpredictable, that if an agency was willing to go out on a limb and tell someone they would likely be included, that they would only do so if they had very good info indicating that. There’s a big difference, in my mind, between an agency speculating that the move may delay referrals by a bit and telling a family they expect them to be included in the next batch. Also a big difference in my mind between longer-term speculation (an 18 month wait, or saying to a Nov LIDer that they’ll get their referral at a certain time) and this short term cut-off stuff. I’ve been wanting to post in the forum to say “What the heck happened to those rumors?” but now don’t have to because of course you are on it, RQ.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:56 am
I’ve never before seen this many agencies tell their people with LID’s as many as 15 days PAST the actual cut-off that they are matched.
Obviously someone did know how far they were actually going to mail - the European-agency-that-is-usually-right new the 7/13 date weeks ago. However, many agencies were obviously told that their people were matched much past that.
Like I said a few posts back - it’s a mystery.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:57 am
As far as the arrival of the next batch….my large, China only, agency sent an email to those of us with 7/20 & 7/27 LID’s saying that we may be included in the next batch and that it should come at the end of August or the beginning of September. I just wonder why they are saying that it may be the beginning of September.
July 30th, 2006 at 9:59 am
This batch is actually going to arrive on the very last day of the month. So, if the next batch takes even one day longer than a month, then the next batch will arrive in September and not August.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:14 am
Hey RQ. I just now had a chance to read all the comments of the posts from when I was gone. Plenty “gnashing of teeth” there, which I missed since I was out of town. So now I feel a bit more clued in….it was weird to see one post, then another a few days later, and wonder why people didn’t seem to be freaking out like I was. :) Actually, this makes me realize how some people can get in trouble coming to this site. Unless you come here often enough to have a context for the daily rumors, you could just come once, read about a certain cut-off, then come three days later and read about the actual cut-off and conclude that the RQ site isn’t accurate at all. These are probably the people who drive you nuts with the admonishing emails about the costs of renewing the 171H, etc. They don’t spend enough time here to really figure things out.
Okay, here’s a question. You’ve made some references to the cut-off date being determined by how many baby files come into the office by match time. I know all along we’re hearing this slow down is the result of “supply/demand” issues, but are we really sure that every month the baby file supply is wiped out (or nearly wiped out) by that month’s matching? I guess I find it hard to believe that in a country that big with estimates of that many abandoned children per year, that over the course of 6 months or so all the baby files would get used up. Do we know of anyone who has been to the CCAA office in the past few months and if they saw empty shelves where baby files used to be?
I realize I am asking the million dollar question here. I guess I’m wondering if you are describing it that way based on an assumption (which would be a very logical one to come to given the circumstances) or based on some other concrete info or observation.
Of course if the stack of baby files aren’t getting totally used up every month, then you get into the conspiracy theories about the wait, and I don’t know what to make of those either.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:38 am
I think the issue of some agencies being told that their clients have been matched and not included in this batch is a clear indication that the CCAA is more in control of the wait then they would like to let on. If they are matched why not send it out? I also think that the shortage of “paper ready” babies is not as bad as they would like us to think. I am really starting to think that there is a “quota” in China about how many babies they will allow to leave at a time and they are sticking to it for political reasons of some type.
I was so hoping to see a speed up now that they are moved and maybe we will but this does not seem to be in line with that. I am a 11/23 lid so I would love for the Nov in Nov to be true and maybe that is their plan if they do have more control than we know of. There could be so many reasons for all of this that it is crazy to try to figure out with what little they give us.
July 30th, 2006 at 11:20 am
I have a thought about why someone might already be matched but the referral not sent. Baby files may be sent to the CCAA before the babies are old enough to actually be referred. The babies physicals are often outdated, it could be because the file is sitting at CCAA and they are waiting for the baby to pass the 6 month mark to safely refer them. Hence a six/seven month old referral is recieved?
July 30th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
Or maybe it’s due to the “move.”
July 30th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
Beenheredonethat,
I was thinking along those same lines, and also perhaps one thing is to be matched, but then after that there is paperwork or other things that have to be completed prior to mailing out the matches to the agencies.
LID 8-24
July 30th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
beenheredonethat,
My agency had a 5 month old referred two batches ago, so I’m not convinced that they have an age at which they consider a baby ready for referral.
Just a thought…
July 30th, 2006 at 12:47 pm
my personal thoughts on another group of referrals before the end of the month (aug) is that I guess we see what we see…if it happens, then great, if not, well then it’s still the “normal” schedule. (whatever normal is)
as far as the 26th report…I imagine that this is expected. At least I expect them to get to the 26th…at the least through the end of July.
Now if it were posted that BLAS had told someone with say an 8/12 LID that they’d be in the next batch…then I’d be excited.
July 30th, 2006 at 1:43 pm
Can you please be more specific about this comment:
“Agencies who are reporting a cut-off date are reporting 7/13 with one exception. The exception is reporting they expect to receive through 7/15.” We have an LID of 7/15 — are you saying it is POSSIBLE that Monday may be our day? Just possible?
RQ thanks for ALL you do. You are #1!
July 30th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
Hello RQ and all,
This is my first post, although I have been a “lurker” for many months now. My LID is 7/26/05. On Friday, my agency, which is a small one, told me that (as we already know) this set of referrals is thru July 13th. However, they said that the next set (which would include my agency’s group) would be thru July 29, and they would be out in “about a month or a few weeks.” Even though I have heard this from my agency, and they are a wonderful, wonderful agency, and I trust them implicitly, I still don’t want to get my hopes up, because you never know what the CCAA will do next!! :o) I must say, even though I talk big about not getting my hopes up, they are high, high, high!!!
July 30th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
Cutiebug - that’s interesting. How would your agency know the cut off already? That would almost imply that the CCAA has set an internal cutoff date.
Anyone else going crazy at the fact that the CCAA hasn’t updated their site?
We have a November LID and I would love to see that we have moved on to the matching room!
July 30th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
hedge, i sure wish the ccaa would update their site. it’s another mystery. maybe monday. lid-8-8
July 30th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
Has anyone thought that they may have matched further but because of the move they didn’t have time to get them signed off by the director? So maybe they will get them signed off and send them out sooner. I won’t get my hopes up though. I guess I’m next no matter what (unless they shut down) with a July 18 LID.
July 30th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
I think we all will be on pins and needles until the CCAA updates their site - sure is uncomforatable — but then again so is “labor”. All we can do is hope and wait — hope with joy as we wait for our little miracles!
July 30th, 2006 at 4:23 pm
cutiebug-July 29, it seems early to know the cut-off even before these have arrived, but the 29 would be more than this batch (something like a third more-RQ can help here) and would be consistent with a somewhat speed up to put it at about 18 months a year from now…interesting.
July 30th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
It is my understanding that the CCAA lets the orphanages know how many children’s files they will be able to submit per year. They know ahead of time about how many files will be coming in. They may not know exactly how many per month, but they do know how many they will receive per year.
As for whether I believe they match all children’s files that come in - yes, I believe they review the children’s files and then all files they had time to review are matched. Each month we have very very very young babies and very few older babies. This also lends credence to the idea that they are matching the babies as soon as their files arrive.
The CCAA decides how many paper ready babies there will be when they tell the agencies how many files they will be allowed to submit. Remember the story of the orphanage director who complained that the CCAA wasn’t allowing him to send as many files as he used to be able to send?
July 30th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Red - I wouldn’t count on it. We have a dozen or agencies saying the thirteenth and one small one saying they expect to receive them through the fifteenth.
Everyone else - don’t go crazy because the site isn’t updated. Remember, in February people had received their phone calls and had the pictures emailed to them already before the site was updated.
July 30th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
I think that we also have to remember that there are different types of children that come to us form IA, when we talk about a 5 month old child at time of referral. If I remember correctly, if a child is an orphan, meaning both parents are dead, then the child qualifies at any age but if the child is abandoned then they must be 6 months because the law in China is that they must search for the parents for that time to make them parent the child or prosecute them for the crime of abandonment.
July 30th, 2006 at 8:39 pm
Hi all -
Haven’t posted before, but with an LID of 7/26/05, I am interested (of course) in the rumor about any possible matches before the end of August. I’m wondering if there has been any recent history, (in the last year) of matches coming twice during a one month period. Thanks!
July 30th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Lilywatch, I’ve been tracking referrals for the past 12 months, and the shortest interval between 2 referral batches was 3.1 weeks 6 months ago.
July 30th, 2006 at 10:40 pm
Ok this is getting really confusing…im just ready to see the CCAA site updated…btw how are you guys dealing with the wait
July 31st, 2006 at 12:02 am
Hi,
just came back from a 3 weeks holiday. and I was wondering….is November through review yet?
I was really counting on reading in on the ccaa site when I came home yesterday, so that was a big disappointment :o(
bye
July 31st, 2006 at 12:21 am
I am not sure that the six month threshold for referring a baby is right. I have a friend who got a 3 month old (that was in ‘97) and picked her up at 5 months. Her second child was 5 months at referral and she picked her up at 7 months (with a full blown case of chicken pocks).
I think the HIV tests are not accurate until at least 3 months of age, so they wait for that amount of time. There must be at least a certain window between finding ads being placed and submission of the paperwork as well to ensure no relatives can be found and the baby is free for placement.
A friend in China ( our exchange student that lived with us)just emailed to see when we were coming since she was saving up vacation time for us. I told her to go ahead, as we have not a clue when we will be there. (maybe Dec- Mar?)
Weird dreams last night about the baby - she had an old tibetan lady’s face (we have not waited THAT long yet), was skinny and dirty (I guess I am worried about her) and I could not find her…
LID 10/26
July 31st, 2006 at 12:32 am
Thanks so much for the info. Tresordasie. I’ll just take my place back on the rollercoaster - I’ll be the one with the raw and bleeding fingertips.
LID 7/26/05
July 31st, 2006 at 12:33 am
Lilywatch - I’ll be the one standing on the tracks. Yikes! LID 2/24/06
July 31st, 2006 at 12:46 am
what does BLAS mean or stand for? thanks
LID 25/7… and praying this rumour is true but would like to know what BLAS is.
July 31st, 2006 at 12:53 am
While I am thrilled for those of you who have a LID approaching within the next few months our LID of 3/7/06 seems an eternity away. A group of us using the same agency had just begun to email each other when the 12mo-18mo news came in from ccaa. I haven’t heard a word from theothers that would have been travelling with us. We chose China for adopting for three reasons: The health of the baby, the time China while adopting and the amt of time from LID to TA. We are considering changing countries and would liketo hear feedback if anyone else is thinking along these lines. If I thought it was just a matter of patience I could wait, but I am wondering if the political mind in China is to deter adoption by clogging the funnel so that only one drip at a time can get through.
July 31st, 2006 at 1:29 am
handful,
Deciding whether to switch country programs is, of course, a deeply personal decision. However, I would urge you to keep in mind that fluctuations in the timeline between LID to TA is not a new phenomenon. I believe that when the wait got down to 6 months, many people took that to mean that it would stay there. If you do decide to switch programs, keep in mind that there will always be variables in international adoption. There is always the possibility that if you switch to a program that seems faster, delays may surface just as they have in the China program. For my husband and me, our heart was with China from the beginning, and as disappointing as the lengthening wait is, we feel invested at this point. Even though we may have several more months in front of us, I feel excited because I know that one day, it will be our turn to receive the much anticipated phone call from our social worker. Good luck with whatever you decide!
LID 9/12/05
July 31st, 2006 at 8:06 am
PandaMomma-
I couldn’t have said it better!!! Thanks for an eloquent and thoughtful response to a question that seems to be brought up more and more.
Laureen
LID 8/30 for Isabel Grace
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
July 31st, 2006 at 8:14 am
handful,
Ditto to what pandamama said. My LID is 3/9 and yes, we considered switching as well. Honestly, by the time you start over, get your paperwork done, and start your next wait, it’ll probably be the same amount of time to adopt your child. I have thought (mostly because I’m on this site 99% of the time) that a March LID was really far away, but then attended a couple of functions that reminded me that there are so many families who are logged in after us OR who are completing paperwork now…most of them don’t know about this site or aren’t on it yet so sometimes you probably feel really late in the process!! You are NOT!!!! Remember, March is a big month and we’re at the beginning of it (lucky us) and it’s only a few days after February! :) February is only two months after December…which is around the corner!!! Pandamama is right - it’s a personal choice. Just wanted to chime in because we basically have the same log-in dates and know how you feel. We can do this! If we switch the process will speed up…maybe we should hang in there!!! :) Good luck with the decision.
July 31st, 2006 at 8:19 am
First off, thanks and big kudos to the Rumor Queen. While this site is a mere repository for rumors, I believe RQ spends a great deal of time assessing the credibility of the rumor and usually cites her source (i.e. agency or friend of a friend, etc.). It is certainly helpful. I’m in the beginning of the process and have to admit I’m getting a bit confused as to the wait time. If anyone could help clarify, I would really appreciate it. One poster said there was news from the CCAA that the wait would go to 18 mos. I was under the impression that the CCAA has only said they don’t know how long the wait would be in the future, which would imply not only that it could get longer, but also that it could speed up again. What really confuses me is that if the CCAA tells agencies how many files they can submit a year, why wouldn’t the CCAA be able to figure an expected wait time. The expected numbers of dossiers would be fairly definite. Is that because of the other end of the equation, meaning number of baby dossiers coming in? That would make sense to me. I can see orphanages being overwhelmed and potentially having difficulty getting alot of baby dossiers out. I realize there were alot of posters mentioning an orphanage director complaining about the CCAA not allowing him to submit more baby dossiers. I’d be curious if anyone can tell me where this rumor started. It doesn’t seem to be very credible. China is not a country where someone in the position of an orphanage director would be able to speak freely, especially in criticism of another government agency so I question the veracity of this. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help clarify.
July 31st, 2006 at 8:20 am
handful, I totally understand your feelings. With a LID of 3/16 I have wondered the same but I don’t know that we would shorten the wait at this point. Had I know then the waits were going to lengthen like this I am not sure I would have pursued the China route but I do feel it is where I am supposed to be at this point. I know there is a light at the end of this tunnel - but, oh, to catch a glimpse of it.
July 31st, 2006 at 8:30 am
Just my two cents, but I guess it is of course a personal family decision in which you just feel that a certain country is just calling you. That is what we believe, we know that our daughter is probably conceived right now somewhere in china, and we are just hoping to be lid by mid august. therefore, merely beginning. But that is just us!!!
July 31st, 2006 at 8:58 am
The information from the orphanage director is very very credible.
A family was told this during a trip to the orphanage. I’ve got this directly from the family who spoke with the director of the orphanage. It did not have to go through several people before it got to me.
The director was having problems making ends meet because a) they didn’t have the income they were used to having from the orphanage donations by the parents and b) they now had more babies to take care of because they weren’t able to adopt as many out.
He wasn’t being critical, just stating the fact that he wasn’t being allowed to send in as much paperwork as he’d been allowed in the past. I didn’t get the idea that he was at all critical about it, just trying to deal with it.
I also have word from someone who was on a heritage tour who noted to the orphanage director that there seemed to be a lot more kids now than there had been four years ago and the director agreed with her without making any comment about why that may be. (different director, different orphanage)
July 31st, 2006 at 8:59 am
waiting for helena- I think what RQ meant (and hopefully she’ll correct me if I’m wrong) wasn’t that the CCAA tells adoption agencies how many applications to submit, but that they tell orphanage directors how many baby files they can submit.
July 31st, 2006 at 9:01 am
sorry, RQ, I guess you were posting as I was typing
July 31st, 2006 at 9:03 am
As for the changing countries thing - there is a very pompous reply on the big list about “changing countries because of the difference of a few weeks time in your referral”. This guy is really out of touch, isn’t he? I mean, parents who were told 8 months who now find out it could be 18 to 24 months, that’s more than a few weeks. By a long shot.
Anyway, If you’ve just gotten started then I wouldn’t blame anyone for either changing countries or doing a parallel adoption with another country if your agency allows it. It’s a very personal decision, with risks in both directions.
If you’re already six months into it, then who knows whether changing would do any good or not. You may get out of line only to have it speed up, or you may stay in line and then two years later still not have a referral and wish you’d changed lines two years ago. If you know of a good psychic, this may be the time to utilize them.
(that last part is a joke, don’t anyone get offended)
July 31st, 2006 at 9:31 am
Thanks for the clarification - it certainly helps me to understand the process better. My heart is pretty much set on China. I’ll just have to strap myself in for what could be a long wait. I suppose that if it’s a long wait, the costs of raising my child would be delayed as well so maybe I’ll get started on a college fund while I wait…
July 31st, 2006 at 9:37 am
There was an article on Yahoo a couple of days ago regarding Guatemalan adoptions. The article was about Guatemalan adoptions slowing down. I just skimmed the article.
Out of the programs we researched when we started our first adoption in 2003, China was the most predictable and stable. It doesn’t seem like any of the IA programs are moving really quickly. You might get a referral sooner but you still have to wait to travel. I think it would be a gamble to switch programs if you’re doing it to save time. I have to admit, the thought crossed my mind when the rumors first started coming out.
We have a February LID and I have no idea what to expect right now. Even though I’d rather get my referral sooner I’m OK with waiting until next Spring/Summer. It’s hard for me to believe I’ve been waiting almost 6 months. The 18-24 month wait does freak me out a bit. Mostly because I don’t want my kids to have that much of an age gap.
Dawn
July 31st, 2006 at 10:06 am
I will ask what we are all thinking……Alright it is 10:00 here in NY, has anyone heard from the agencies about the referrals?
July 31st, 2006 at 10:06 am
I have never heard that agencies are told how many files they can submit per year except when there is a quota. I don’t see how that could be true in my agency’s case because they would be having to hold dossiers at the end of the year or not accept applications at some point to make sure they didn’t go over and that has never happened.
July 31st, 2006 at 10:16 am
Sorry, the CCAA lets the orphanages know how many children they can submit per year, not agencies.
July 31st, 2006 at 10:51 am
TA’s?????????????????????????
July 31st, 2006 at 11:09 am
handful,
I totally understand how you feel!
We were still under working under the assumption of 10-12 month wait when we sent in our paper work in Apirl. Our LID is 5/10/06. It wasn’t until after I started reading here that I realized how dismal the the wait time was becoming. We too chose China because of its stability. It even says so in our homestudy. I had a long talk with our agency about changing programs and she cautioned to hold our place in line. (The same way RQ put it.)
So for now we are holding and I am watching the medical denials very closely. My husband had to have part of his heart replaced 4 years ago at age 29. Our homestudy also says that. The wait wouldn’t be quite as hard if we knew for certian that no matter how long the tunnel got our daughter would be there. Right now, personally, I don’t feel like I can change countries because I feel in my heart that that is where fate has put our daughter and I can’t give up because of politics.
Have faith, there are many of here who are with you.
LID 5/10/06
July 31st, 2006 at 11:11 am
You all are the next to know (after my husband)…. we have only the basics of our referral of our second child! She’s eight months old and from Hunan, in orphanage care. We’re racing to our agency in Boston early this afternoon to get more info. Cannot wait!
July 31st, 2006 at 11:54 am
Handful:
We too have an LID of 3/7 and when we started our process in March of 05 the wait was 6 months. Becuase of some circumstances beyond our control, we put our adoption on hold for 3 months and then picked up again in Sept. 05. As for us, we firmly believe that God has put us on this journey and He has selected China. He has proved Himself time and time again, so for US, we will WAIT the WAIT. Our Darci is in China, I firmly believe she has not been born yet, but that is just my feelings. As everyone else has said, it is most definitely a personal decision. Best wishes to you as you decide what action to take. Who know maybe we will see each other in China.
Debbie
DTC for Darci 3/7/06
July 31st, 2006 at 12:10 pm
With respect to medical denials, how often does that occur with people with past surgeries. I’ve had 5 knee surgeries in the last 4 years from some bad sports related accidents (3 of the surgeries from 1 skiing accident), am right now home recovering from the last one which was 1 1/2 weeks ago. My prognosis is that I’m finally going to be back to 100% once my rehab is done. I have no limitation of mobility. Am I still in danger of a medical denial because I participate in sports at a fairly high level and therefore will get injured on occassion? I’m in excellent health otherwise and very fit.
July 31st, 2006 at 12:55 pm
WaitingforHelena,
I would think heart surgery and knee surgery would be 2 different considerations. Especially since my husband’s situation was “if you don’t have this you will be dead in less than 5 years”. He now has 110% recovery and several letters from his Doctors declaring this went in our dossier, but with China’s changing conditions you never know. One letter even gives the Dr.’s very supportive, medical and personal opinions on hubby’s ability to be a father.
Our Agency said this was great, but I still worry. I guess I’ll continue to worry right up until we have our referral.
LID 5/10/06
July 31st, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Waiting4Ash,
I definitely agree heart surgery and knee surgery are 2 different considerations. Knee surgery in my mind is no big deal. However, I had one agency shy away from me because of it (I think b/c of the multiple surgeries they were afraid the CCAA would reject me even though they were just knee surgeries). It seems that the CCAA should accept a doctors word that if someone is a 100%, whether it be from a major procedure like heart surgery, or a minor one like knee surgery, and a doctor who is in the position to directly examine that person attests to that fact, that should be enough. I’m wondering if the group as a whole has heard of anyone who was rejected even with a doctor’s note stating that they are just fine.
July 31st, 2006 at 3:21 pm
I have reald all of your posts about considering w/drawing from China and switching to another program. Needless to say, I have thought this so many times recently that I am driving myself crazy.
I got an offical e-mail from our agency today. The agency CEO just got back from China and had met with the CCAA. There was a post from him on there - it basically said that China is going to start emphasizing more special needs adoptions. Less orphanges are submitting paperwork for healthy babies. It also stated that the CCAA encourages families in waiting to consider special needs adoption - even boys. China is also starting to put more emphasis to domestic adoptions within CHina - this must be where all the healthy babies are going.
Okay - for one thing with a 12/05 LID this makes me think I have no choice other than to apply for SN. It sounds like by the time they get around to 12/05 LIDs there will not even be any healthy babies available.
Secondly, this is just so bazaar about boys being available - even if they were special needs. Also what is the deal with domestic adoptions increasing??? China does still have the 1 child per family policy right??
I e-mailed my family cooridnator about this. My homestudy and prints will expire soon and I just wanna know if we even have a realistic chance for a healthy referral at all at this point. It is just getting hard to continue in a process, which i have lost confidence in. This angers me more than any lenth of wait would.
July 31st, 2006 at 4:13 pm
Wow, you said “Okay - for one thing with a 12/05 LID this makes me think I have no choice other than to apply for SN.”
I really hope your agency isnt encouraging you to go SN because its faster. People who choose this route need to be prepared for a life-long committment to a child’s special needs. Going the SN route shouldnt be a second choice to NSN, but a conscious and reasoned decision.
July 31st, 2006 at 4:56 pm
wait4Hannah,
As far as boys go, there is still the stigma of being an unwed mother in China, and don’t forget that in areas where the 1 child policy is strictly enforced, a family who gives birth to a second or third son may find themselves in the same difficult position as a family giving birth to a daughter.
As for domestic adoption, there are couples in China who suffer from infertility and other issues that prevent them from having biological children, just like in every other country! Also, there are families in China who have raised biological children and then decide to adopt later in life, just like many people on this board! China used to penalize Chinese couples for adopting (counting the adopted child against their one child “qouta,” but my understanding is that prohibitive rule has been lifted.
For your own peace of mind, try not to jump to “all or nothing” conclusions. Yes, the CCAA is placing more of an emphasis on domestic adoption, and yes, they are attempting to increase the adoption of special needs children. But this doesn’t mean that there won’t be any healthy children available for adoption, it just means that we all may have to wait longer.
I understand that waiting longer than expected is difficult, but this is not the first time in the history of IA from China that they wait has significantly slowed down.
July 31st, 2006 at 6:51 pm
woo woo! congrats to all of you who are getting your referrals!
NOvary - how do i get to the pic of your baby??? can’t find it on the link to the “adoption blogs”!
well, hopefully we’ll be August/September!
LID 7/25