Comments on: Referrals arrived in Europe http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/ Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and then analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:57:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: cinderella http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-7015 cinderella Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:05:12 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-7015 Still no referrals in Holland. What the....... is going on. cindy Still no referrals in Holland.
What the……. is going on.
cindy

]]> By: luvpoppy http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6973 luvpoppy Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:12:54 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6973 We got word from our agency that our referral is here and that it is being translated. Our baby (oh..my..gosh) was born in Wuhan. We will find out more tonight and/or tomorrow. We are getting her actual picture tomorrow or Wed. at the latest. Tonight we will get an email letting us know for sure. Yipppeeeee!!!!! Jennie We got word from our agency that our referral is here and that it is being translated. Our baby (oh..my..gosh) was born in Wuhan. We will find out more tonight and/or tomorrow. We are getting her actual picture tomorrow or Wed. at the latest. Tonight we will get an email letting us know for sure. Yipppeeeee!!!!!
Jennie

]]> By: guessingmom http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6969 guessingmom Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:47:09 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6969 NOvary - I am soooo excited for you and for all the other's receiving referrals posted here! Skinny babies can be so cute too, but there is just something so adorable about a chubby baby! I love chubby babies & can't help but admire my friends' adorable chubby babies! For those of you considering sn's the most common ones I see listed are cleft lip/cleft palate & correctable heart problems. Some of the babies receive surgery while in China and are still considered special needs after being repaired. There are some even more minor special needs and of course some more major ones as well. Some of the more minor ones are hernias, lazy eye, birth marks. Some of the more extensive ones are club foot(usually correctable), missing finger/toe/s and other limb differences, though I am not covering everything. If you are considering this route, and your agency does not receive special need lists you can request that the ccaa match you themselves with a waiting child. I am not from the U.S., but I think you typically need to update your homestudy to include what you would consider, and make sure you (and your agency and your social worker) all state very clearly that you want to be put in the 'Waiting Child Program". You also state the age and gender you prefer & list the special needs you feel comfortable handling. However probably the least complicated way is to find your child off of an agencies sn list, if your agency gets them, but if your agency doesn't you can request the ccaa match you themselves. Or some people ask the ccaa match them and look at their agencies lists to see if they find their child there (the one that calls their heart), and wait to see which happens first. If you want to consider going the route of finding your child off of a list you can research for information from the files and friends at WaitingChildrenChina-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or if your agency cannot receive lists you could research for information for considering the option of having the ccaa match you with a waiting child from the files and friends at ccaamatchingsn-subscribe@yahoogroups.com The process of finding your child off of a list is more well known for how it works then the process for asking the ccaa to match you regarding timelines and documents to send in ect... We at the ccaa matching site are trying to figure out the process better. We know more how to do it correctly from the beginning now document wise, but we have no idea as to the wait yet, and are waiting information from our agencies, for once they know more from the ccaa regarding this process. There is pretty good info in both groups files on various common special needs (and risk of associated conditions) from China and what to expect, as well as how to start the process for how to go about finding a child off of your agencies list (for the waitingchildrenchina site), and for the ccaa matching site there is info for how to ask the ccaa to match you with a waiting child via the archives and in just asking the adopting parents who are there. You could check with the waiting child china list as to timelines. However for the ccaamatching support site - we have no idea yet how long this will take. There are uncertainties and you could possibly end up waiting just as long, though if it's true what wait4hannah's agency says that the ccaa told them, then you would think that ccaa would speed up the matching process for waiting children (especially if it's true that only one woman has been assigned to matching families with waiting children - you would think a top priority for the ccaa would be assigning her more help as that would mean these waiting children would be in families more quickly - to their benefit). There is also the very serious consideration of if you feel your family can feel confident about raising a child with special needs, or the special needs you would consider. My friends on these support sites say that is very important to spend time researching before making an informed decision that would be in the best interests of the family and the child adopted, as to whether or not to go the sn route. And for those more comfortable with the nsn route - I totally support you as well - I am just posting this info for those who may be interested in researching the waiting child program. All babies whether nsn or sn should know the love of parents and either route is not better than the other. I strongly support both routes that parents choose and I'm happy for all the family and children who find one another. By the way, at one of my support sites where there are multiple countries represented, my friend confirmed to me that she was told by someone reliable at her agency that he/she had spoken with someone high up at the ccaa who told them some months ago, that there were some 10,000 special needs files to choose from. RQ, I can give you some more specific information privately that is not to be shared, to confirm the reliability of this source if you like. Let me know how to do this, if you want me to & I will. Sincerely, guessingmom :) (ps - sorry about the length) NOvary - I am soooo excited for you and for all the other’s receiving referrals posted here! Skinny babies can be so cute too, but there is just something so adorable about a chubby baby! I love chubby babies & can’t help but admire my friends’ adorable chubby babies!
For those of you considering sn’s the most common ones I see listed are cleft lip/cleft palate & correctable heart problems. Some of the babies receive surgery while in China and are still considered special needs after being repaired. There are some even more minor special needs and of course some more major ones as well. Some of the more minor ones are hernias, lazy eye, birth marks. Some of the more extensive ones are club foot(usually correctable), missing finger/toe/s and other limb differences, though I am not covering everything. If you are considering this route, and your agency does not receive special need lists you can request that the ccaa match you themselves with a waiting child. I am not from the U.S., but I think you typically need to update your homestudy to include what you would consider, and make sure you (and your agency and your social worker) all state very clearly that you want to be put in the ‘Waiting Child Program”. You also state the age and gender you prefer & list the special needs you feel comfortable handling. However probably the least complicated way is to find your child off of an agencies sn list, if your agency gets them, but if your agency doesn’t you can request the ccaa match you themselves. Or some people ask the ccaa match them and look at their agencies lists to see if they find their child there (the one that calls their heart), and wait to see which happens first. If you want to consider going the route of finding your child off of a list you can research for information from the files and friends at
WaitingChildrenChina-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

or if your agency cannot receive lists you could research for information for considering the option of having the ccaa match you with a waiting child from the files and friends at
ccaamatchingsn-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

The process of finding your child off of a list is more well known for how it works then the process for asking the ccaa to match you regarding timelines and documents to send in ect… We at the ccaa matching site are trying to figure out the process better. We know more how to do it correctly from the beginning now document wise, but we have no idea as to the wait yet, and are waiting information from our agencies, for once they know more from the ccaa regarding this process. There is pretty good info in both groups files on various common special needs (and risk of associated conditions) from China and what to expect, as well as how to start the process for how to go about finding a child off of your agencies list (for the waitingchildrenchina site), and for the ccaa matching site there is info for how to ask the ccaa to match you with a waiting child via the archives and in just asking the adopting parents who are there.

You could check with the waiting child china list as to timelines. However for the ccaamatching support site - we have no idea yet how long this will take. There are uncertainties and you could possibly end up waiting just as long, though if it’s true what wait4hannah’s agency says that the ccaa told them, then you would think that ccaa would speed up the matching process for waiting children (especially if it’s true that only one woman has been assigned to matching families with waiting children - you would think a top priority for the ccaa would be assigning her more help as that would mean these waiting children would be in families more quickly - to their benefit). There is also the very serious consideration of if you feel your family can feel confident about raising a child with special needs, or the special needs you would consider. My friends on these support sites say that is very important to spend time researching before making an informed decision that would be in the best interests of the family and the child adopted, as to whether or not to go the sn route.

And for those more comfortable with the nsn route - I totally support you as well - I am just posting this info for those who may be interested in researching the waiting child program. All babies whether nsn or sn should know the love of parents and either route is not better than the other. I strongly support both routes that parents choose and I’m happy for all the family and children who find one another.

By the way, at one of my support sites where there are multiple countries represented, my friend confirmed to me that she was told by someone reliable at her agency that he/she had spoken with someone high up at the ccaa who told them some months ago, that there were some 10,000 special needs files to choose from. RQ, I can give you some more specific information privately that is not to be shared, to confirm the reliability of this source if you like. Let me know how to do this, if you want me to & I will.

Sincerely,
guessingmom :)

(ps - sorry about the length)

]]> By: pandamomma http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6961 pandamomma Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:35:50 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6961 wait4Hannah, For your own peace of mind, try not to jump to “all or nothing” conclusions. Yes, the CCAA is placing more of an emphasis on domestic adoption, and yes, they are attempting to increase the adoption of special needs children. But this doesn’t mean that there won’t be any healthy children available for adoption, it just means that we all may have to wait longer. I understand that waiting longer than expected is difficult, but this is not the first time in the history of IA from China that they wait has significantly slowed down. wait4Hannah,

For your own peace of mind, try not to jump to “all or nothing” conclusions. Yes, the CCAA is placing more of an emphasis on domestic adoption, and yes, they are attempting to increase the adoption of special needs children. But this doesn’t mean that there won’t be any healthy children available for adoption, it just means that we all may have to wait longer.

I understand that waiting longer than expected is difficult, but this is not the first time in the history of IA from China that they wait has significantly slowed down.

]]> By: Big Dog http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6946 Big Dog Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:49:30 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6946 Do we know for sure that 7/13 is the cut-off date this time?? Big Dog LID 7-06-05 Do we know for sure that 7/13 is the cut-off date this time??
Big Dog
LID 7-06-05

]]> By: Wasterval http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6943 Wasterval Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:44:50 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6943 Hello all, Is there anybody who knows if there are any referrals in the Netherlands already, because my agency knows nothing and even less?! We desperately need some information. 13/07/05 Hello all,

Is there anybody who knows if there are any referrals in the Netherlands already, because my agency knows nothing and even less?! We desperately need some information.
13/07/05

]]> By: Katri http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6931 Katri Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:12:19 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6931 emilyandrachaelsdad - take it slowly! I've learned small, but thorough doses of the RQ medicine - three times daily, morning, noon and evening. Best taken with chocolate or a little glass of something for your nerves. LID 9/9/05 emilyandrachaelsdad - take it slowly! I’ve learned small, but thorough doses of the RQ medicine - three times daily, morning, noon and evening. Best taken with chocolate or a little glass of something for your nerves.

LID 9/9/05

]]> By: threebluesteps http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6930 threebluesteps Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:11:57 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6930 Hi wait4hannah, thanks so much for passing on that information. Can you post, in any more detail, your agency's e-mail to you? (regarding CCAA and especially any comments regarding SN adoptions to those already logged in & choosing NSN adoptions). We in the November group here have been talking about the CCAA's encouragement of choice of SN perhaps becoming the only IA option, and when that might happen. How was this SN situation phrased? NOvary - congratulations!!!!! WOO HOOOO! (I swear I could SEE you air-kicking the other night) Congratulations to all seeing their child's face for the first time! Hi wait4hannah,

thanks so much for passing on that information. Can you post, in any more detail, your agency’s e-mail to you? (regarding CCAA and especially any comments regarding SN adoptions to those already logged in & choosing NSN adoptions). We in the November group here have been talking about the CCAA’s encouragement of choice of SN perhaps becoming the only IA option, and when that might happen. How was this SN situation phrased?

NOvary - congratulations!!!!! WOO HOOOO! (I swear I could SEE you air-kicking the other night)

Congratulations to all seeing their child’s face for the first time!

]]> By: emilyandrachelsdad http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6925 emilyandrachelsdad Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:52:08 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6925 Okay, I'm already hooked on this site, and I only found it a couple weeks ago. However, I can't imagine how you people who have been here for months can maintain sanity. It makes me feel better while I'm here to learn as much information as can be known. BUT, it also makes me think about the wait much more often, which is depressing. We adopted our first daughter from China in 1995, and so I was starting to see in the distant future a time when we would have more quiet time and freedom. Therefore, at first, my wife had to drag me into this parenting thing again. But, now that we're in it, I'm getting even more anxious than her (maybe) to get our daughter. I find myself coming here ever more often as the days go by. With a LID of 10/20/05, I will be permanently logged on long before the wait is over. At this point, I can't even imagine making it to see how far next month's referrals get, much less to how long it will take to get to October LID's. I need to quit coming here because I believe the time will go more quickly. But, I can't! We need to start an addiction support group called "RQ Anonymous." Sorry for the rant and congratulations to all who have their referral this month. Okay, I’m already hooked on this site, and I only found it a couple weeks ago. However, I can’t imagine how you people who have been here for months can maintain sanity. It makes me feel better while I’m here to learn as much information as can be known. BUT, it also makes me think about the wait much more often, which is depressing. We adopted our first daughter from China in 1995, and so I was starting to see in the distant future a time when we would have more quiet time and freedom. Therefore, at first, my wife had to drag me into this parenting thing again. But, now that we’re in it, I’m getting even more anxious than her (maybe) to get our daughter. I find myself coming here ever more often as the days go by. With a LID of 10/20/05, I will be permanently logged on long before the wait is over.

At this point, I can’t even imagine making it to see how far next month’s referrals get, much less to how long it will take to get to October LID’s. I need to quit coming here because I believe the time will go more quickly. But, I can’t! We need to start an addiction support group called “RQ Anonymous.”

Sorry for the rant and congratulations to all who have their referral this month.

]]> By: Mom2Isabel http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6923 Mom2Isabel Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:49:30 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/07/31/referrals-arrived-in-europe/#comment-6923 luvpoppy- Fingers and toes crossed here for you too! Can't wait to see her. luvpoppy-
Fingers and toes crossed here for you too! Can’t wait to see her.

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