Comments on: Yearly Quotas http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/ Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and then analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:15:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: meetoo http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11390 meetoo Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:52:54 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11390 Hey Dutchmomtobe! As a Mum to a special needs child, let me wish you as much pure joy and happiness as we have had. I would never have believed how much that child could change my world (for the better). I was prepared to love, but have received so much more. It's been a truly amazing journey. Good luck. Ps. hi, lies1976. How goes pilates? Hey Dutchmomtobe! As a Mum to a special needs child, let me wish you as much pure joy and happiness as we have had. I would never have believed how much that child could change my world (for the better). I was prepared to love, but have received so much more. It’s been a truly amazing journey. Good luck.

Ps. hi, lies1976. How goes pilates?

]]> By: eli http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11384 eli Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:50:22 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11384 Lilysmom -- well said. My sentiments exactly. Lilysmom — well said. My sentiments exactly.

]]> By: LilysMom http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11382 LilysMom Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:21:23 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11382 CarolCarter- good point about checking states' situations again. I feel the need to add also that a lot of us (not all) have experienced years of infertility, so the wait isn't just 2 years for some of us. It has been 4, 7, even 10 years already. Many of us have experienced pregnancy losses, and I for one can't bring myself to adopt domestically through the foster care system for fear I will become attached to a child only to have it taken away from me when the bio parents show a bit of hope. That is great that people are out there who can take care of these kids, but I am not one of them. A dear friend of mine has had 4 adoptions fall through, and the last one the birthmother changed her mind at the last minute, and two weeks later the birthmother was in jail for drug charges. I realize this is not typical, but I think I can speak for many of us who are at the end of our ropes emotionally and don't want to risk our hearts again. So please try to see it from another's standpoint. CarolCarter- good point about checking states’ situations again. I feel the need to add also that a lot of us (not all) have experienced years of infertility, so the wait isn’t just 2 years for some of us. It has been 4, 7, even 10 years already. Many of us have experienced pregnancy losses, and I for one can’t bring myself to adopt domestically through the foster care system for fear I will become attached to a child only to have it taken away from me when the bio parents show a bit of hope. That is great that people are out there who can take care of these kids, but I am not one of them.

A dear friend of mine has had 4 adoptions fall through, and the last one the birthmother changed her mind at the last minute, and two weeks later the birthmother was in jail for drug charges. I realize this is not typical, but I think I can speak for many of us who are at the end of our ropes emotionally and don’t want to risk our hearts again. So please try to see it from another’s standpoint.

]]> By: averysmom http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11374 averysmom Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:08:26 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11374 I am with a med size multi-country agency, and they have said to me that the CCAA finds it amazing that we are wanting their SN children-so no, I don't think they think those parents should have more means to take care of those children. So I can see them increasing the amount of SN vs NSN. As far as someone being upset by how their agency does SN lists-mine does it similar, and I find that method far better then being evaluated by a board of people that decide who gets what child. I know there are many agencies that do their list that way-can you imagine getting that phone call telling you that they think another family would be better suited for the child you are wanting? I prefer first come first serve. Let's hope if the CCAA is lurking on RQ that they will start leaving comments/clues of what is to come. LOL just kidding-just don' t think that it is the case. They very well may be sick of hearing from agencies about numbers and policies, so they have shut everyone down. Everyone head over to Salsa in China-those twin girls are so incredibly cute-so happy for them-Just made my day!! I am with a med size multi-country agency, and they have said to me that the CCAA finds it amazing that we are wanting their SN children-so no, I don’t think they think those parents should have more means to take care of those children. So I can see them increasing the amount of SN vs NSN. As far as someone being upset by how their agency does SN lists-mine does it similar, and I find that method far better then being evaluated by a board of people that decide who gets what child. I know there are many agencies that do their list that way-can you imagine getting that phone call telling you that they think another family would be better suited for the child you are wanting? I prefer first come first serve.
Let’s hope if the CCAA is lurking on RQ that they will start leaving comments/clues of what is to come. LOL just kidding-just don’ t think that it is the case. They very well may be sick of hearing from agencies about numbers and policies, so they have shut everyone down.
Everyone head over to Salsa in China-those twin girls are so incredibly cute-so happy for them-Just made my day!!

]]> By: CarolCarter http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11373 CarolCarter Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:08:24 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11373 Unfortunately, the SN children that have been available through my agency's WC list for the past several months have not been "minor" correctable issues, but have had significant medical issues. And the waiting time for referral is still quite lengthy, even from the WC list! Having worked in the foster care system in my State for 19 years, I urge all of you to take another look at your State's available children if you're able to take on special needs. The laws have changed since the enactment of the Adoption and Safe Families Act, and currently the time in care grounds for severance of biological parents who can't or won't do the things to enable them to resume their parenting responsibilities are 9 and 15 months. Why wait 2+ years to adopt from China??? Unfortunately, the SN children that have been available through my agency’s WC list for the past several months have not been “minor” correctable issues, but have had significant medical issues. And the waiting time for referral is still quite lengthy, even from the WC list!

Having worked in the foster care system in my State for 19 years, I urge all of you to take another look at your State’s available children if you’re able to take on special needs. The laws have changed since the enactment of the Adoption and Safe Families Act, and currently the time in care grounds for severance of biological parents who can’t or won’t do the things to enable them to resume their parenting responsibilities are 9 and 15 months.

Why wait 2+ years to adopt from China???

]]> By: Waiting4Vivian http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11368 Waiting4Vivian Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:49:03 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11368 Carol Carter, I am adopting a SN child from China. I don't look at it in terms of money and I also don't see a distinction between supporting "our own" and adopting internationally. We are all citizens of the world, aren't we? Supporting "our own" means taking care of human beings, whether they are Chinese or American. Maybe you need to educate yourself on the SN program. As someone else wrote, special needs in China can be very minor and correctible. And our state DOES offer a subsidy for SN children, regardless of whether the adoption is domestic or international. Why would I adopt a SN child from China instead of a child from the U.S. foster system? Because there's one special little girl in China who was meant to be my daughter. Carol Carter,

I am adopting a SN child from China. I don’t look at it in terms of money and I also don’t see a distinction between supporting “our own” and adopting internationally. We are all citizens of the world, aren’t we? Supporting “our own” means taking care of human beings, whether they are Chinese or American. Maybe you need to educate yourself on the SN program. As someone else wrote, special needs in China can be very minor and correctible. And our state DOES offer a subsidy for SN children, regardless of whether the adoption is domestic or international.

Why would I adopt a SN child from China instead of a child from the U.S. foster system? Because there’s one special little girl in China who was meant to be my daughter.

]]> By: lies1976 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11354 lies1976 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:41:31 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11354 I just noticed that in my last reply about TATAR I wrote ' that I have plans to put it here' (the website). One very very important word was missing there: NO. I mean that I have NO plans to put it here. Sorry for that mix-up...... I just noticed that in my last reply about TATAR I wrote ‘ that I have plans to put it here’ (the website). One very very important word was missing there: NO. I mean that I have NO plans to put it here. Sorry for that mix-up……

]]> By: pattighez http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11350 pattighez Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:25:05 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11350 Adopting a "special needs" child in the U.S. is not easy. I couldn't get anyone in my local children's services office to return my calls. When I finally heard about a workshop and went to get the details, I was told I was needed as a "way station" for children while their bio parents work out their problems. I was told flat out to go elsewhere for adoption. The push is still for reunification with bio parents, and the need in my community is for short-term foster parents. It can happen, and I admire the people who tough it out, but sadly our own domestic adoption system is very difficult to navigate. I can easily understand why families go international. I want to be a mom! Adopting a “special needs” child in the U.S. is not easy. I couldn’t get anyone in my local children’s services office to return my calls. When I finally heard about a workshop and went to get the details, I was told I was needed as a “way station” for children while their bio parents work out their problems. I was told flat out to go elsewhere for adoption. The push is still for reunification with bio parents, and the need in my community is for short-term foster parents.

It can happen, and I admire the people who tough it out, but sadly our own domestic adoption system is very difficult to navigate.

I can easily understand why families go international. I want to be a mom!

]]> By: Swedishmomtobe http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11346 Swedishmomtobe Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:09:23 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11346 CarolCarter, I guess you are right as far as the US is concerned, but here in Europe the situation is quite different. In Sweden, about 20 (!) children a year are adopted domestically, a tiny figure even for a small country like ours. So the chances for domestic adoption here, SN or NSN, are more or less zero. So, for us, a longer wait WILL probably result in more international SN adoptions. Just my two cents. :) CarolCarter,

I guess you are right as far as the US is concerned, but here in Europe the situation is quite different. In Sweden, about 20 (!) children a year are adopted domestically, a tiny figure even for a small country like ours. So the chances for domestic adoption here, SN or NSN, are more or less zero. So, for us, a longer wait WILL probably result in more international SN adoptions.

Just my two cents. :)

]]> By: cindy in AL http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11345 cindy in AL Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:07:48 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/08/28/yearly-quotas/#comment-11345 Many of the things that are SN in China would Never be called SN in the US medical community. A child born with many of the things that China deems SN are fully correctable in the US/other countries with better health care resources. Many of the things that are SN in China would Never be called SN in the US medical community. A child born with many of the things that China deems SN are fully correctable in the US/other countries with better health care resources.

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