From European Agency
This agency met with a CCAA delegation recently and were told that during the course of 2007 the wait will reach 24 months. They don’t know whether the wait will extend beyond 24 months or not.
This does not come from tater.
Comments
Chitika Ad --> |
Note from RQ: The section below is for comments from ChinaAdoptTalk.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with any particular comment just because I let it stand. Posts are generally only removed if they don't follow the rules of the site. Anyone who fails to comply with the rules of the site may lose his or her posting privilege. 60 Responses to “From European Agency”Leave a ReplyYou must be logged in to post a comment. |
|
September 29th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
No surprise but disheartening to hear.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Just got home & read this. Feels like someone punched me in the gut. I hope it’s not true. It’s too depressing.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Oh God 24 months during the course of 2007.. I hope this doesn’t apply for families with LIDS of early March:(
I can’t stand this anymore!! Just when you think you are getting closer, we are worlds away….
What I don’t understand is why they are still accepting dossiers if they plan the wait to extend to 24 mos. Just does not make one bit of sense to me..
September 29th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
almost sounds like they are discouraging people from applying… just to keep up with the demand… the ol’ supply and demand thing going on… i don’t see a benefit to anyone if it goes that long. our boys were telling us tonight how badly they want their sister home and also would love to adopt again, except it TAKES TOO LONG! domestic adoption ran thru my mind when they said that… sheesh. my hubby said “we could have had 2 babies by now had we gotten pregnant!” yikes!!!!
September 29th, 2006 at 9:06 pm
i feel sick
September 29th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
Oh that is just G*R*O*S*S!!!!!!
September 29th, 2006 at 9:15 pm
can someone translate the 9/30 posting on the CCAA website? my google translation is not working….
September 29th, 2006 at 9:16 pm
24 months would suck……I think with a late Nov LID, we will be looking at 18 months…..
September 29th, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Who is TATER? I can’t find it on the acronym list. I hope the wait is really not going to be 24 months. I was starting to feel positive about a potential speed with all the orphanages opeaned.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:18 pm
Ok- this does not make sense to me. Sorry for nit picking over language but for the wait to “reach 24 months” someone will actually have to have waited 2 years for their referral. i.e. December 05 not being referred until December 07. No one but the 2005’s could “reach” a 24 month wait in 2007 and they are getting to the tail end of 2005 now. That just does not make sense and does not seem possible to me. Perhaps for those logging in during 2007, their wait could reach 24 months? Perhaps us 2006ers will wait 24 months but in that case we won’t see a referral in 2007. If they really are going to hit 24 months, it would make more sense for them to have said, “during the course of 2008 the wait will reach 24 months”. What do you guys think?
Shannon
LID 7/6/06
http://picklechatter.blogspot.com
September 29th, 2006 at 9:24 pm
Next year is 2007. So my interpretation is that sometime next year the wait will reach 2 years.
That would mean that it’s possible that December of 2005 won’t be referred until December of 2007.
I don’t really want to believe that, but that’s the way this one reads.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:25 pm
I am not one bit surprised that the wait could be 24 month or more. I have been telling my family and DH that we will not be getting our referral picture untill march 2008. We are logged in march 3 2006. When I think we are going to wait this long it makes me sad to think I will not see my daughters face for almost two years. But it will be worth every second of the wait.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
Funny, at first i thought, “oh how horrible! but i’m glad its not me’ then i realized that it IS me. its not 2007 LIDs, its 2007 referrals too probably, and of course 2007 is starting 3 months from now.
With a 2/06 LID my referral will be right there in 2007, probably LATE 2007. So I am right there, if not 24 months than close to it. Alas.
Again, not surprising - how could it be? you can’t look at the last 6 months and NOT see 24 months in the near future. But it’s still chilling to hear someone say it.
hope they are wrong.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
D!@# that makes the Olympics a threat to us again. Double D!@#.
Beth
LID 4/19/06
September 29th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
I agree with more pickles. It does not make sense that wait times could extend to 24 months in 2007. What is TATER?
September 29th, 2006 at 9:34 pm
FAQ, #14
September 29th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
It does not surprise me. Again, following someone elses lead, how could it not based on the current pace. We have let our agency know that we would welcome a SN child if one came available. How sad? I got dizzy reading it.
Jeanne
LID 6/06
September 29th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
I just can’t or won’t believe they could delay the end of 2005 that long. UGH.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
Thanks RQ! I had been wondering what TATER was for months. Well I am glad this rumor is not from TATER maybe it will not come to be: )
September 29th, 2006 at 9:46 pm
Hi Hedge
I was able to translate what you ask through google translation. Here what it says:
135 business forum held foreign adoptions Release time : 135 Source : 2006-09-30 26-27 September 2006, 135 business forum held foreign adoptions from all 29 provinces, municipalities and autonomous regions attended the meeting. Tianjin, director, Zhang Zhong, deputy director and the relevant departments attended the meeting. Zhang Zhong, vice chairman, presided over the meeting and delivered a speech. He pointed out that the theme of this conference is “inform, identify the problems and work together and jointly promote” a positive response to the new situation in the area and new problems, seek truth from facts, brainstorming, explore new ideas, find new measures. Meeting, and the resettlement of some other foreign guardian informed the work of the month 1-8 in 2006 and “Tomorrow” work of the Ministry of Information commissioned the special needs of children online system. In addition, the Department also gave details of the placement of children with special needs for their production requirements. Local representatives of the provinces briefed the foreign guardian work, in the next period of time to explore the development trend of foreign guardian and the child’s guardian against development of the low value of the work initiated discussions unified in their thinking and understanding. We agreed to actively create conditions to improve efficiency and find suitable families for children with special needs to make greater efforts. Director of Tianjin, China made an important speech adoption center, the analysis of the current situation also improved markedly foreign demands on the work. He pointed out that all localities must unify their thinking, enhance understanding, be bold and work aggressively to firmly establish “all the children”, and effectively strengthen their sense of responsibility and mission, and further enhance, clarify the responsibilities and standardize work processes and broaden the channels and constantly improve our work efficiency and ability to actively promote foreign adoptions work for the healthy development. Meeting on the exchange of information, lessons learned and innovative, lively discussions and lively atmosphere, the delegates have been received.
Now let’s try to understand what it means…. :)
September 29th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
If you figure it will take 3-4 months for each LID month starting now, it can very well hit the 24 month mark by the middle of 2007. Months ago everyone thought no way could it hit 14-18 months and we are hitting that point already. UGGH…
September 29th, 2006 at 10:00 pm
Can’t say this one makes me too happy. It means we will probably be oneo fo the families impacted by the Olympics. Not happy news at all.
Beth
LID 4/19/06
September 29th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
This makes me ill. To be honest, I don’t know what to do. I know that I will wait to see if I hear this from my agency….and if I do? What do I do? I know that I can’t wait two years or more. I just can’t! This is when I (we) could use a really good rumor now. This is also a time when I am wishing I didn’t go with a China only agency:(
September 29th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
*sigh* This does not surprise me unfortunately. I’ve told all my family to expect us to get a NSN referral in late 2008 or early 2009 with a 9/14/06 LID, and even that might be off. I truly believe we’ll see a SN referral before the NSN, and I’ve prepared my extended family for that.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
You know what? Being *friends* with the CCAA is like being friends with Sybil. In one country they say one thing, the next country they are claiming they are not saying a word because they don’t know, the next place is that they are reviewing new guidelines that now have seemingly gone away. They can’t seem to make up their mind, so it seems as though their thoughts and plans are either really *Bipolor* or something is being misinterpeted. I am not a “Suzy Sunshine” I am prepared for a long wait, but this seems to all change with each new visit. So it doesn’t appear that they know what they are doing, how long it is going to take, and what they are going to do about it. I just know with *friends* like that, you sure don’t need enemies. This could be a new form of torture.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:39 pm
LOL AVERYSMOM!!!! Sybil REALLY sums it up! Isn’t that the truth. I thought I read somewhere a week or two ago that CCAA thought the wait wait would not go farther than 14mths. OH MY!!
September 29th, 2006 at 10:40 pm
SOmetimes I feel like Sybil with the added stress of the ever changing wait predictions..LOL
September 29th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
not to be a wet blanket…but to respond to pickles comment that it does not seem reasonable that a Dec 05 LID could get a Dec 07 referral. Looking at the referrals recently it would apper that they got through 2.5 months worth of LID’s in the last 7 months. If they keep that average pace I end up with Dec 07 referrals for Dec 05 LID’s…or close enough as makes no difference.
September 29th, 2006 at 11:37 pm
Didn’t they just say it would be a 14-15 month wait a couple of weeks ago when they were in Spain?
September 29th, 2006 at 11:51 pm
My lord, will this wait never end. 2 steps forward, 3 steps back…..Just updated the homestudy-what a waste of time and money. Redid all the criminal checks. Fingerprints and the rest come next. I just can’t take this waiting. It is the hardest thing I’ve ever done….
September 29th, 2006 at 11:52 pm
I think I’m gonna be sick…..:(
September 29th, 2006 at 11:56 pm
Next time someone asks me, “Why China?” I’m going to tell them, “Because I wanted to paint two coats on the the Golden Gate Bridge with a fingernail polish brush before the adoption was complete.” Or maybe, “Because I can’t stand it when I can plan an event with the slightest hint of predictability.” Oh, well, at least for now the outcome still looks good even if the time frame is stretching way beyond anything I’d ever imagined.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:02 am
And, with an early Nov 2005 LID, I may get a little piglet instead of a dog…
September 30th, 2006 at 12:15 am
Why do other countries get solid information when the CCAA delegation visits them and but it’s not the same game with US agencies? Or is it that the US agenices DO get information when they are visited by the CCAA, but the agencies don’t give out any information? If U.S. agencies gave out info like this 24 month whopper, imagine the effect on their business! I pose this ? because on the RQ Forum, a poster recently mentioned that the CCAA Director visited the US (and met with her agency) last spring (see Forum> General Discussion> A poll: what does your agency do for you). Interesting that other countries get information straight from the CCAA and U.S. agencies get zilch. I have a question, RQ. Are the Spanish agencies the same as the US, meaning individual agencies, run as businesses? (I can hear some of you saying “But the U.S. agencies are non-profit….” Yes, and so is the Vatican. Anyone been to St. Peter’s?). It’s my understanding that some China adoptions in some European countries are controlled by a government entity, not individual agencies. Is this true? If it is true, is that why some European agencies are getting information and the US agencies aren’t? Your thoughts?
September 30th, 2006 at 12:27 am
Ok, this isn’t as good as a rumor but here it goes….. I have gone to see a spiritual intuitive once a year for the past few years. I Know many people who see here yearly and all say “she’s the real deal” finding much accuracy in what she has said. Long story short, she said I would be getting news (a referral) in May 2007 and travel in July. My LID is 5/06. She knows nothing about the chinese adoption process and as of last year I told her I thought I would be going to China Nov. or Dec. of 2006. I didn’t give her any information before she shared what she shared. So, many of you probably think what I am saying is crazy, but I’m going to hang onto it and see what happens. She has been so accurate about so much else. What do I have to lose?
September 30th, 2006 at 12:27 am
Okay..am I the only one thinking…ONLY 24 months???? With an 8/30/05 LID, I am looking at a 15 month wait. This is not surprising if you divide the 3-4 months it is taking to get through one calendar month by the 12 months in a year. The result is getting through 3-4 months’ worth of LIDs in a year. Like I said, I am surprised that it is only 24 months.
Please note that my lack of surprise does NOT mean that I am not sick about the current wait.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:40 am
woopig, would you like some help painting that bridge? I’m available–apparently we have lots of time on our hands, huh.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:53 am
Why don’t the CCAA just admit they have implemented their own “quota” system.
It will be interesting to see just how far this wait does extend over the months of Oct/Nov thru March.
By the time this wait finishes we’ll be all needing calcium tablets and human growth hormone. I was going to be a yummy mummy, but I’m afraid the greys, and wrinkles will have taken over by referral.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:55 am
Ummm, what happened to the rumor of CCAA trying to keep the wait at 12-14 months? Honestly, my hubby is going to blow a sprocket if I tell him this.
Could they have possibly meant for those logging in 2007, the wait could be that long.?
Sigh, well, if CCAA wanted to teach us patience, they sure are getting the message out loud and clear!
Jen
LID 3/24/06
September 30th, 2006 at 12:57 am
AAAAARGH!!! If I grit my teeth any harder against disappointment I swear I will be just left with gums……
I agree Luna, what is the deal with saying 18 m in one country, 14/15m in the next and now 24m [and maybe more] in the next?!? Talk about messing with minds…..
RQ, it sounds like this 24+? month prediction is direct from CCAA, not just the European agency’s interpretation? At least that’s how I’m reading it. As others have said it’s not a surprise - I’ve been thinking 2yrs or more in my worst moments but it doesn’t make actually seeing it one bit easier.
Could it be CCAA was counting on their proposed new restrictions to curb log-ins? Now they’re not putting more restrictions in place, is that why CCAA is predicting a big jump in wait times? But what about the supposed 20000 backlog of dossiers? Wouldn’t the wait continue to increase anyway until the new restrictions made in-roads into the existing backlog of files?
I wonder if because the restrictions have been quashed [for now anyway], we will see more about some other kind of quota soon. Things can’t go spinning out like this for much longer - can they?!?!
OK, enough rambling already - back to something less painful like gritting my stumps…
September 30th, 2006 at 1:13 am
Does anyone really think that folks at the CCAA are thinking “Hmmm, how best can we screw with waiting families? What can we do to hurt them?”
I don’t think so.
As a person who works in the news industry, I have come to understand that “truth” has many different facets at any given moment. It’s a tough wait, I agree. But I am not at all persuaded there is a deliberate effort by CCAA officials to hurt waiting families by passing out false information, even though — admittedly — the long wait hurts. LID 12/13/05.
September 30th, 2006 at 1:22 am
I dont think people “think” CCAA is delibrately trying to mislead us. I think what gets alot of us is just when we get a glimmer of hope, there is always another rumor to stick it to us. CCAA did make a comment or statement of being patient during the wait, but I dont think they are trying to ‘teach’ us patience, rather instructing us that to have patience is better that becoming frustrated with the wait. Yeah, good luck with that one, lol.
Jen
LID 3/24/06
September 30th, 2006 at 1:29 am
Mom2Isabel hit it on the head really…
right now with our referral coming in a few weeks, we’ll have waited alittle over 14months (8.10.05 LID). If they only get to say 8/24 this time…then all the remaining August ‘05 LIDs will be going on a 15 month wait time. say they go from 8/25 to 9/6 (just as an example, k?) this would be in November-15month wait for the Aug…14 for the Sept LIDs. so December rolls around and they do 9/7 to say 9/20 (as an example) those people have had a 15month wait, but now moving into Jan ‘07 the remaining Sept 05 LIDs are at a 16 month wait…etc.
if the CCAA continues at this current pace…well you guys can do the math.
while we all try to figure out the reasoning behind the increasing wait times and if they’ll keep increasing, level off, or decrease again… the one thing we have to keep going on is that we can’t know what’s going to happen down the road and we must have the hope that things will come back around again. Several people have said before here, and I’ve read a few articles as well; that the wait times have varied…gone back and forth over the years since China adoptions began. We have to figure that they’ll shorten again at some point…we just hope that it’s sooner than later.
take care you guys! and hang in there… :)
September 30th, 2006 at 2:15 am
Really bad news. THe worse news is that we all have to realize with this much of a wait …so many things could happen that could jeopardize our adoptions. Everything from Chinese-US relations to China enacting new laws, rules etc. etc. etc.
What is REALLY awful is that they are not being upfront with any timeline.
Really feel as if I signed up with a bait and switch deal. If we knew the wait would have been over 2 years we would have probably gone to another country first and then come back to China for number 2 baby.
We are all really in a crummy place with this. No getting around that one. And so many of us our “older” parents. It is one thing to wait two years for a baby if you are 23. It is another if you are 43!
It is the not knowing that makes it worse.
Okay…vented.
September 30th, 2006 at 2:39 am
>”Does anyone really think that folks at the CCAA are thinking “Hmmm, how best can we screw with waiting families? What can we do to hurt them?â€
September 30th, 2006 at 2:46 am
Hi everybody,
Two weeks ago, our agency finally told us that for the november lids, the wait will extend to 18-20 months (18 for the early nov lid, 20 for the late nov lid)… When you know that the CCAA does 3 calender months for 1 month lid, you come for the lid end december to a wait of 23 months…
They also told us that this is only a projection and that the wait could be shortened or lengthened… In conclusion, it’s between now and one day in 2007 we hope.
PS / Sorry for my english, I’m french speeking
LID 9 nov 05
September 30th, 2006 at 2:51 am
iseirinne, you’re doing great — pas de probleme du tout avec votre Anglais.
I’m so depressed. Just told DH about this and he deflated.
September 30th, 2006 at 2:55 am
Darn, lost the rest of my post somewhere - anyways, tried to say I don’t think there’s any point demonising CCAA or taking the rollercoaster personally. And I don’t see anyone doing that.
The inconsistency and unpredictability are soooo hard to take then if a little venting from time to time is needed then, imo, a little venting is just fine…..
September 30th, 2006 at 3:06 am
As sad as it may be, I can see this as happening. Looking at the recent poll RQ did yesterday (or the day before that - I forget) this is what I am seeing … 2 months to get up to Aug 29. 3 months to get thru Sep (including the BIG 30 & 31 of Aug). 3 months to get thru Oct (which is how far the poll went). That’s 8 months - which takes us to May ‘07. So, if Nov ‘05 and Dec ‘05 are anything like Aug ‘05 and Oct ‘05 then it could take 4-6 months to get thru those, too. Which would put us to “possibly” Nov ‘07 for LIDs of end of Dec ‘05. That’s a 23 month wait (can’t get much closer to 24 months than that). Sad, but again it is a rumor and maybe with Hunan coming back and more orphanages there could be a speed up come the beginning of the year.
September 30th, 2006 at 5:24 am
anonymouswait — what would indeed happen to an agency’s bottom line if they simply cautioned people currently paperchasing that based on CCAA activity the past year, it is not unreasonable that the wait could be 3 years for recent LID’s? Most U.S. agencies are nonprofits. As such they must file a “very” detailed 990 IRS form (called a “Return of Organization Exempt From Income Tax”) On this form you will find compensation for the the top 5 earners within the organization — along with all kinds of other nifty operating and financial details. If you’d like to check your agency’s IRS 990 form, simply go to: http://www.guidestar.org/
You don’t have to pay the premium fee to simply view your agency’s 990 form — all that is required is that you register. Most of the 990’s currently on file are for fiscal year 2004 — though 2005 990’s are starting to show up.
September 30th, 2006 at 7:43 am
I am just speculating here- I get the feeling that this increased wait coupled with smaller groups of kids going out each mother is going to put smaller agencies out of business. If most agencies stay afloat with the money received from agency fees, and there are less kids going out of PRC than previously, this could make it very hard to keep everyone employed. I see this problem showing up in the SN area- agencies are growing increasingly stubborn about working with another agency to place a child, because the first agency will lose out $ that they need.
I saw this wait coming months ago. I kept saying we would be at 3 years, but the optimists around me didn’t want to see it. We are trying to get our ducks in a row to put together plan #2 which will include trying to adopt elsewhere first.
September 30th, 2006 at 8:39 am
This makes me so sad. As someone mentioned before it really effects the older parents. This will definately put us out of contention for a second daughter. By the time we get our first, then you have to wait a year to submit another dossier, then two years on top of that???? Wow. I can’t say I’m surpised, but I guess I let myself get excited at the prospect of a one year wait. ***sigh***
September 30th, 2006 at 8:48 am
Howdy. Long time lurker, finally spurred to post. Love this site, BTW. My agency gives out only rock solid fact, which we all know at this point is almost non-existent. It’s good to have access to the other side of the coin, to see what is coming down the pipe. Thanks, RQ!
In response to the 24 month wait, I felt like this was in the cards for us too. We are LID 3-28. Doing the math with the current referrals, and I figured we were looking at a 24+ month wait.
I’d like to plant the seed for some of you to consider going SN. Maybe that is playing into what CCAA wants us to do, but hey, a child is a child. Here was our reasoning for why we added our name to our agency’s SN list.
1. You can choose what SN you will accept. Unlike the dossier filtering thru the CCAA then getting a referral “This is your child - will you take her?”, our agency gets a batch and the agency then pairs up families with children. At least in our agency, there is no pressure to have to accept. If you do not accept, it does not affect our standing at the CCAA or at our agency. This was the clincher for me. I was afraid of being given a child our family couldn’t handle, and then being unable to turn it down without detrimental effects.
2. Your dossier never leaves the NSN track until you commit to a SN child. CCAA has no idea you are on a SN list, has no idea if you review and turn down a child’s file. If no child fits a profile that you feel your family can accept, your dossier still continues its process (albeit sluggishly now) thru the system.
3. Some special needs are huge, some are remarkably minor. Several of the last group of children our agency received included things like a small birthmark on a wrist, “pigeon toes”, etc.
4. I realized I did not need to feel guilty about not wanting a large SN. I am continously amazed at the willingness of some familes to accept children with significant needs. I was afraid if I didn’t accept a child, I would consign it to a life in the orphanage, etc. That is not the case. Over the last year, it seems that every SN child our agency received has found a family - including ones with large and sometimes ill-defined SN’s.
5. Age range. We actually have 3 bio dd’s, ages 7 (twins) and 4. We asked for an 2-3 yo in our dossier. Many SN children are a little older, but at least in our agency, it seems that half the SN’s referrals have been for infants under a year.
6. One of our twins would have been SN. She was born with a second thumb on her right hand. It was removed when she was 6 months old. She has a small scar. That is the extent of it. If she had been an orphan in China, she would have been considered initially un-adoptable. Unbelievable to me - she is a joy.
7. At this point, SN will most likely be much faster. This is not a reason in itself, but did tip the scales for us.
When we first started paperchasing, I talked about SN with my sister, who adopted from China 1 year ago. (Her wait was a TOTAL of 12 months - paperchasing to referral. ERGH!) Both of us agreed that SN was not for us - who get’s pregnant and asks for a child with a SN? So who would ask for an adopted child that way? Most of this stemmed from fear and misunderstanding of the process (see #1).
Anyhow, I would encourage those of you who are open to this to consider looking as SN and finding out your options. At the very least, it has given me hope that we will find our child sooner than the open-ended wait that is occuring on the NSN track.
Sorry this is so long. I’ll try to keep the rest of my posts a bit shorter. :)
September 30th, 2006 at 9:36 am
Just a note lojeslj - not all agency handle their SN lists as your agency does.
Some agencies post the list and it’s first person with an interest gets first option to put a LOI in on the child.
Other agencies post the list and have people submit a request for the child and then they decide who would be the best parents (in their opinion) of the child. This requires parents to possibly spend hundreds of dollars in order to compete for the child, as they are expected to have a doctor’s input when they submit their request.
For some families neither of these options is a good fit. For other families they realize that their agency prefers to approve people who do not even have a home study yet for their waiting children, which makes the waiting children have to wait many months longer for their families to be able to come get them. But it also means those already in process likely will not be chosen because the odds are that someone who is not yet a client of the agency will make a request and automatically beat them out.
I really wish the CCAA would come up with some kind of standardized way to handle the SN issue. Ideally they would have all of the children listed on their site and the agencies would be the ones providing passwords to the CCAA page of SN kids. This way all children would be available to all families no matter which agency they are with, and the CCAA would be overseeing it instead of the agencies.
September 30th, 2006 at 10:15 am
Seachange, the same thought occurred to me—that since the Ministry of Civil Affairs apparently shot down the new regs the CCAA proposed, the wait times will continue to spiral out of control…. unless they institute a quota again. Arghhh. Each month I think the referral numbers will somehow point to a clear direction as far as wait times go, and each month I end up thinking “maybe next month…”
September 30th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
CWS~ I agree with “Each month I think the referral numbers will somehow point to a clear direction as far as wait times go, and each month I end up thinking “maybe next month…â€
Truer words were never spoken.
Questions, I know that everyone keeps saying that referral times speed and slow and I seem to remember that 19 months had been the longest wait ever. That was during SARS, right? Before adoptions shut down for SARS what had the wait been? How long was the shut down? I’m just trying to figure out, besides SARS, what was the longest wait and what caused it.
Also, when are the Olympics scheduled for? I know its summer 08 for a couple weeks. I would imagine they might shut down a few weeks before and after for a variety of reasons.
LID 2/13/06 and feeling blue.
September 30th, 2006 at 3:52 pm
I just did a search and answered one question Olympics will run 8/8-8/24/08.
September 30th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
Okay, I am new to this whole thing, and that may be obvious after you read my question, but is there some rule against starting the process of adoption for child #2, while you are still waiting for referral #1. I have 4 bios, and so we will not be able to adopt from China again, but for those that want their children closer together than 2 years…can two dossiers be in the system at the same time, especially knowing if the said rumors amount to anything of the wait being 24 months. Just curious, don’t slam me for my stupidity ;)
K LID 12/05
September 30th, 2006 at 5:13 pm
Ah, thanks for the clarification RQ. We apparently have it good with our agency. Our agency does accept families that have not completed their paperwork, so that they are in effect paperchasing for a specific child. I think at least half go about it the way we did though. We were NSN at LID, and then decided to add our name to the SN list. Competing for a child (which family is most worthy) would be horrible in my opinion, financially and emotionally.
I do realize it is not the right option for many families out there, and being a mother myself I don’t begrudge anyone whatever decision they come to. I only wanted to share how we came to our decision. If the CCAA miraculously said tomorrow our NSN referral was here, did we want it, I’d take it and not look back. At this point we’re just looking for whatever available avenues there are to finally get our child into our family. And I must say 24 mos is downright depressing.
October 1st, 2006 at 1:59 am
Chinasyndrome - THANK YOU so much for the link and information regarding guidestar. It was fascinating to read that in 2004, my agency director said (on the agency tax return) that the he/she spent less than 15 hours a week on the charity (my agency). No wonder no one never hears from my agency director! I recommend everyone look up their agency’s tax returns. Look for Chinasyndrome’s instructions above. Very, very interesting…