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October 18th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
Could the Trade Fair be slowing down the TA?
We where in the last batch of NSN referrails.
October 18th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
I think the Guangzhou Trade Fair in Guangdong only starts next Wednesday (Nov. 25). I could be wrong, but I don’t think they’re late, I think they always take about 3 weeks after referral to arrive, don’t they?
October 18th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
Hi,
I noticed on the “Update News” section of the CCAA website that some kind of update was posted on 10/12/06. For some reason, I can not access the update. Does anyone know what it says, and is anyone else having the same problem? I am not the most computer savvy person in the world, so I am probably missing something here…
October 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
Here is the Translate through Bablefish:
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“Director Lu Ying attends the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region welfare home supervisory work conference
Issues the time: 2006-10-12 origin: Chinese adoption center
On September 19, 2006, the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region office of civil administration held “the autonomous region welfare home supervisory work conference” in the Hami city. Attends the conference civil administration bureau chief, section chief and the entire autonomous region child welfare home, welfare institution’s chief which has the autonomous region office of civil administration, the Hami area concerned leader and each place (state, city) is in charge of the welfare home work and so on. Chinese adoption center Director Lu Ying the and the party on invitation attended the conference, Director Lu Ying has given the important speech. After the meeting, Director Lu Ying the and the party went to the Hami area and the Ili state carries on has investigated and studied and has seen the child welfare home’s orphaned remnant child.
The conference main subject has three items: One, study transmission party and national leader related instruction as well as Bureau of Civil Administration related social welfare conference spirit; Two, summarizes the exchange welfare home to manage the aspect the experience; Three, to adopted the work, the orphan rescue and so on the special office work has carried on the deployment and training.
Director Lu Ying comprehensively introduced in the speech the domestic and foreign near futures will touch on foreign affairs the adoption work situation, vividly explained using the example the development will touch on foreign affairs the adoption work vital significance, and summoned everybody will have to persist “all for child” the objective idea, will emancipate the mind, the positive innovation, diligently will found Xinjiang to touch on foreign affairs adoption work new ball game. At the meeting, Director Lu also on good fords å¤–é€ raises the child to originate the pass, physical examination Guan Hesong raises the pass, speeds up the advancement children with disabilities to ford å¤–é€ raises, the exploration suited the local actual situation the method of work and so on to touch on foreign affairs the adoption key point work link to set the concrete work requirement. The speech both operates from a strategically advantageous position, is full of the affection, and draws close to the work reality, has indicated the next diligently direction, has received the conference representative warm welcome.
At the meeting, how did the Chinese adoption center ford å¤–é€ raises the child placement department soup to found an armed force director also on to manufacture and the verification fords å¤–é€ raises the child material to make special counselling, and has broadcast the slide. Counselling explains the profound in simple language, the image is vivid, both clarified the work main point, and proposed the working standard and the request. The senate teaches represents all indicated that, this training the feeling which one kind suddenly sees the light for the person, both has explained the work question, and has been clear about the work requirement, the future work direction will be clear about.
Through this conference, everybody summarized the experience, has exchanged the procedure, enhanced the understanding, has been clear about the next step of work direction, regarding enhances the Xinjiang area welfare home and the adoption work standardized management level, the promotion welfare services and the adoption work health has the foreword development to have the vital significance”
October 18th, 2006 at 5:19 pm
Thanks Alexander!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
CHINA HERE WE COME!!!!!
Got the date of our US Consolate appointment at 9am this morning and have spend tha last 5 hours getting our flights!
LAX -> Hong Kong on Friday November 3rd!!!!
Our GOTCHA DAY should be Monday November 6th!!!!!
Cathay Pacific’s October Deal of the Month is RT to Hong Kong, purchase in October for travel in November, $661 + tax and airport fees for a total of $861.
WOO WOO!!!!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
that’s awesome waitingforjade!
sooo excited for you!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:59 pm
Congratulations waitingforjade!!!
What wonderful news!!!
8/10/05
October 18th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
waitingforjade woo woo!!! from waiting for Lucy — we’re soo excited for you!!
October 18th, 2006 at 6:51 pm
Way too sad….the place for rumors does not have any comments…..come on everyone….I need some rumors….some 4R Rumors!!!!! ugh…..
October 18th, 2006 at 6:55 pm
okay…I’ll settle for good news…..waitingforjade…now it is getting real isn’t it. CONGRATS!!!! How exciting.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:07 pm
We got our TA today. Now waiting for visa appointment. My stomache is still in knots. Should have travel date by tomorrow!!!! I need a LARGE glass of wine to calm down.
Congrats Waitingforjade! I hope to see you there!
M
October 18th, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Has more than one agency said they will be receiving referrals up to 8/23? I am just a bit baffled that one agency would have this information and no one else has heard with such certainty that this agency about referrals, especially with the clampdown on information from CCAA.
Or is it that the other agencies know and are waiting until next week to tell us? If they do know, why wait to spread the good news? :)
October 18th, 2006 at 8:11 pm
To those of you with flights planned and dates set…CONGRATS!!!!! We are so happy for you! Keep us posted on your travels!
October 18th, 2006 at 8:16 pm
I’m glad to hear it waiting for jade. Congratulations!
October 18th, 2006 at 8:42 pm
RK,
Are you able to access the Queen’s email to see if there might be a few rumors in there????? I’m sure everyone would agree with me that we will take ANYTHING at this point! =)
I noticed everyone stopped talking after the King spoke! You guys aren’t that scared of his big stick, are ya??
October 18th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
meetoo (and everyone else who got their TA today) – first of all congrats! second, could you tell me when you sent in your acceptance letters, those of us still waiting want to get a sense of the timings.
Thanks!
October 18th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Hey christina,
Our agency sent them in on the 26th. However, not everyone in our group got their TA’s! And the word is that the person in charge of TA’s won’t be back in the office until next week! Maybe the holiday put everything over there in a tizzy. Agency says they are still planning on sending us all together if at all possible. It would seem more are on their way.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
What about any PA’s for singles ? Been waiting since 8/28/06 for my PA and am going bonkers here !
October 18th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
Yikes! please don’t tell us that we may have to wait another week for TA!!! Hoping that if someone is really gone from the office that we will still get TA this week!!
October 18th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
I’m DYING for more rumors!!!!
Come on CCAA!!!!!!!!
His,
Mrs. U
http://www.makingahouseahome.blogspot.com
October 18th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
Waiting For Jade, Cathay Pacific Airlines is awesome! I was a travel agent for 6 years before I got married and they had a fantastic overall reputation. I flew on them once round trip to Hong Kong and they were fantastic! Congrats on getting your dates in order!
Nancy Ann in KY
October 18th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
we got our referrals on october 25th. all families signed their acceptances within a day or two. our agency sent the acceptances back on october 27 or 28th but we were told that it would be a while before the TA’s because our acceptances got delayed being input due to the chinese national holiday at the start of october. we were told that the acceptances had not been looked at until oct 8th, but then we got our TA’s on Oct. 16th – really only 8 days later! Our agency immediately faxed a request for Nov 15th consolate appointments and we heard this a.m. that we got the appointments, so that was 2 days after the request. we were told to book flights nov. 3rd – nov. 17th. hope this helps those who wanted to know more specific time frame info.
October 18th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
Welcome, RK! We all are so grateful to RQ for all she does, and would like to Thank You also for sharing her with us :) I hope she got to her destination safely!
Congrats to everyone who received their TAs! How exciting!
Ok, who is keeping an eye on the CCAA website? How many times are we refreshing the page? Hmm.. I think I have already lost count, lol!
October 18th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
looks like im going to be here for a while…there is NO way im sleeping..sigh…with an LID 8/11/05 i cant afford to miss anything for sleep..LOL..sleep can wait!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 12:03 am
Congratulations! Jade’s comin’ home! Thanks so much for the timeline — it’s been a question in our minds for a while. Congratulations, Metoo! Can’t wait to see photos of all the sweet little faces. They are what keep us going.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:21 am
I spoke to RQ and she is experiencing blog withdrawal already. She said that she is missing ya’ll and can’t wait to get back on line. I even caught wind of her offering to “fix†some ones “broken†internet connection in exchange for some on-line time. lol That sounds just like her eh? I have passed along yous guys comments and I have a sneaky feeling that you may be hearing from her soon.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:54 am
Thanks everyone. Can’t wait to have a departure date. Until then, I’ll still be chewing my fingernails off.
:^> M
October 19th, 2006 at 7:58 am
Our adoptionagency has confirmed that they received (by post) referrals until LID 23/8, but they’re next LID is in september.
October 19th, 2006 at 8:13 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lid 8/19/05
October 19th, 2006 at 8:46 am
ankiepoelmans, your agency *already* received them?!
Nancy
October 19th, 2006 at 9:02 am
Is it just me or do you guys think that RK is trying to throw us off with his ya’ll and his canadian accent eh? He knows we are onto him…..keep up the good work RK! : )
October 19th, 2006 at 9:02 am
received referrals?
as in…received them? not just notified about referrals being worked on or something?
October 19th, 2006 at 9:13 am
HELLO?????
Received referrals???? RK get RQ quick!!!! The kingdom is being stormed! We need reinforcements!
:) wfp
October 19th, 2006 at 9:21 am
I am so unproductive. I just give up trying to do anything but hit the refresh button. I just want to know the cut-off date. I already feel for whomever misses the cut-off … knowing it could very well be all of us 8-24ers.
RK, Thanks for taking over for RQ! Hope to see her today online!
LID 8-24-05
October 19th, 2006 at 9:24 am
i’m doubly unproductive already just by ankiepoelmans’ posting. so now i’m going to be popping on and off of here looking to see if referrals are actually arriving already or what.
someone please get us some info!?
October 19th, 2006 at 9:28 am
ankiepoelman wrote “received (by post)”
Do you think that means they just received a message of some sort? Okay I know I am grasping at straws here.
October 19th, 2006 at 9:28 am
HOORAY for all of you “waiting” hopefuls!!!
TA’s are here, so of course referrals can arrive anytime!!!!
Hang in there, TG – it’s (finally) your turn!
October 19th, 2006 at 9:32 am
We need RQ here pronto!!!! Her job needs to understand this is an emergency!!!!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 9:33 am
thanks saxncin! yeah we’re ready ready ready!!!!
leia- that’s what I’m wondering. if European agencies are starting to get referrals that would make sense since they are way ahead of us Yanks and Canadiens. “received by (post)” could mean ‘by mail’ or ‘by parcel (post)’.
or it could mean the agency received an email saying that referrals are being worked on and their 8/23 families are included. This would be much like the rumour from the other day where the agencies said referrals would include their 8/23 families, but they didn’t have any LID families after that day until later (i.e. Sept)
so I guess that’s what we need to find out… :)
October 19th, 2006 at 9:36 am
RK, thanks for holding down the fort, I don’t know what us rumor addicts would do if this site evaporated for days on end.
As to referrals having arrived at some agency, YEOWSA, it appears they may be dropping out of the sky again… but if we must be blindsided, here’s hoping they got past 8/23 at least.
jfkof3, have you received your TA yet? Or even word that it’s on its way??? Sure hope so.
October 19th, 2006 at 9:38 am
Oh Man, Oh Man, Oh Man – TG…
my fingers are crossed for you!
(all of you remaining AUG LIDs)
How amazing to know “something” by the weekend…
SO TOTALLY COMPLETELY EXCITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 9:43 am
Actually, if you think about it, it makes sense that referrals are actually on their way now — or have arrived in Europe.
Two reasons:
The last two months we received info right before (as in a day or two before) they showed up. It seems like the CCAA has done an excellent job of keeping a lid on things until they are ready to release referrals.
Second, there is mention in the forum by RQ that she has heard at least twice that the next batch of referrals are to come in the middle of November. By moving October’s up a bit, this would allow them to do that.
Just my own perspective on the logic (?) of the CCAA.
I am very excited for those of you who are about to become parents. I’m actually starting to feel more optimistic about things despite my feb 9 LID. It’s starting to not feel quite like an eternity away — just a long time away. :)
clem
October 19th, 2006 at 9:49 am
Where did ankiepoelman go? We must have more information. Should I leave my house? I don’t know what to do!!!!!
LID-8/10/05
October 19th, 2006 at 9:55 am
lol coartney…right there with ya!
doesn’t RQ/RK have some special group of covert-undercover info gathering people that can be dispatched to get us the truth? lol
October 19th, 2006 at 10:01 am
anyone in Europe/Australia know or can find anything out?
October 19th, 2006 at 10:03 am
Come on CCAA more referrals past 8/23!!!!! We need a big month!!!!!
hope
October 19th, 2006 at 10:06 am
I get the feeling that somewhere out there, RQs head is spinning!!
Come on folks – we need some confirmation and we need referrals past 8/23 – PLEASE!!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 10:14 am
I’m in aust (west) – 10.13pm here and China, no more news today. I’m an August LID too …..off to try and sleep…
October 19th, 2006 at 10:19 am
thx suejay…
October 19th, 2006 at 10:19 am
As of yesterday morning we checked and our agency didn’t have anything on the way from CCAA. WE are expecting a referral with a confirmed LID of 8-19.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:20 am
oops… hit send before i was done…lol
and sleep well too! :)
October 19th, 2006 at 10:20 am
test
October 19th, 2006 at 10:22 am
I’m trying to post something and it’s not getting through. Maybe there’ll be 3 posts show up later.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:24 am
tg – i was that confident that we were not going to get our referral this month that I booked myslf into a health retreat on the other side of Australia (leaving Saturday), leaving my DH and DS (5 years old) to look after themselves. Now I’m having a panic that we might get our referral while I am away….bloody hell…..sleep well… I don’t think so.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:27 am
This is exciting for the referral families, woohoo I am so happy for all of you !!!!!
No TA today, according to our agency. yuk yuk, it really stinks.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:28 am
yesterday morning we called the delivery service and there was no package sent from CCAA to our agency.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:29 am
Oh jfk I am so sorry to hear this!
October 19th, 2006 at 10:29 am
suejay-lol-your post was so funny! You probably don’t think so, but I got a giggle from your “bloody hell” response. I understand completely. My DH and 2 boys are going to be gone this weekend, camping, with no phone service. Bloody hell is right!!
October 19th, 2006 at 10:30 am
THe problem is that the delivery service name is being blocked so when I typed it out my messages didn’t go through.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:32 am
Coartney – are you from the U.S.? Is “bloody hell” are term americans use – or just us down here.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:32 am
Suejay….
Oh man…timing is EVERYTHING, isn’t it? If you can stand the suspense, it may be just what you need before this next portion of the Grande Adventure begins!
Love the ‘…bloody hell….’ I imagine that sums up your quandary perfectly!
Hang in there and good luck to you and everyone awaitin’!
October 19th, 2006 at 10:34 am
Jfkof3, hang in there, maybe it will come tomorrow… surely soon in any event. Gads, I well remember what it was like to have a referral and just want to hop on a plane pronto, but NOOOOOO, have to wait for the bureaucracy to grind out the various pieces of paper instead. Arghh. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed that you and all the other folks waiting for TAs get them very soon.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:36 am
“bloody hell” I’ve heard in the UK…and i keep a soundbyte on my sampler and computer from Red Dwarf “oh bloody buggaring hell!” quite hilarious!
oh, so let me rephrase that to “try and get some sleep” suejay…
October 19th, 2006 at 10:37 am
geez jfkof3…they’re really dragging this out way too much for you. sorry to hear that…i’m sure it’ll be any time now…it’s gotta be!
October 19th, 2006 at 10:41 am
girlzmama – that was my theory. Last 5 years: had a son, run a business and built a house that took two years (that deserves it’s very onw “bloody hell”). I thought, I am not going to get a chance to steal 5 days to find some head space for another 5 years after we get little sister…don’t know what i was thinking…but I’m sure it will work out…
October 19th, 2006 at 10:45 am
DonandTamara-
Are you waiting on TA or referrals?
All my agency is saying is that they know the CCAA is working on referrals, which is what they said the last time that we were surprised by the referrals….
October 19th, 2006 at 10:46 am
Wouldn’t it be exciting to have another such surprise today!!!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:02 am
Has anyone heard about the SN TA’s. We are LID 07/25 and LOI 08/11 and are eager for some news…
Regards,
Bia
October 19th, 2006 at 11:03 am
suejay-I’m from the US, but spent some time in England. We don’t use “bloody hell” here, but I think we should add it to our vocab. I love it!!
jfk-I hope you have good news soon!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:12 am
RQ/RK – wave the Scepter (AKA BIG STICK) and get us the damned referrals!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:30 am
chasdav6us Says:
WHere in CO? What is you LID? I to am in the Denver area and enjoyed the snow greatly the other day!!!
Jenn in Denver
October 19th, 2006 at 11:38 am
Happy Hour….You’re cracking me up! LOL!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:43 am
RK – anything for us at all??? We’ve been on pins & needles ever since seeing ankiepoelmans’ post!! Ankiepoelmans – any more info for us? Where are you??
Need. More. Info…!
misformom lid 8/19/05
October 19th, 2006 at 11:50 am
Antkiepoelmans!!!WHERE ARE YOU!!!
Please send the info to the KING!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:51 am
Ankiepoelmans is a TEASE. RK – make sure that’s not an imposter – no one should be allowed to tease us like that! LOL!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:52 am
Just talked to my agency who usually is one of the first to make the referral calls and they have not received any referrals at this point.
October 19th, 2006 at 11:59 am
In the future when ANYONE posts a comment that referrals have arrived…..THEY NEED TO STAY ON THIS SITE, LONG ENOUGH TO BE GRILLED BY EVERY LAST PERSON THAT WANTS TO GRILL THEM!!!!! =)
October 19th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
Thanks, willowflower. I think I need to take a deep breath and go tackle the laundry.
October 19th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
Im afraid ankiepoelman has just pulled our legs a little here.
wow. thats just cruel. I must go make something os this day now.
October 19th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
willowflower-
Is your agency expecting referrals??? Do they know the cutoff date?
October 19th, 2006 at 12:21 pm
wrigsassy- we are waiting for a referral, LID 8-19.
October 19th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Coartney and TG, thank you guys. I appreciate you. NO TA today. I’m so tickled for you both.
Smalltowngirl, Mendy, Christina, did you’all receive your TA? Did you read Meetoo’s post yesterday about the TA delay for some. It stinks.
October 19th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
jfkof3….our agency did not receive TA’s yet either.
October 19th, 2006 at 1:14 pm
TG,
I have butterflies for you! I cannot wait to see your little one’s face!@
October 19th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
No TA here yet either jfkof3! I was hoping to log on this morning and find out you got yours! I really hope it comes tomorrow, thinking of waiting another week bums me out!
October 19th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
I guess no referrals today either. I was hoping we would hear a defn. cut off by the weekend. Maybe tomorrow will bring news (good? we’ll see!). I am starting to assume that if 8/24 was included we would have heard already. But you know what they say if you assume…
: ) wfp
October 19th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
Oh how I hate not knowing a date for sure!! We are LID 8/30 and I know we won’t be in this batch, but I think how far (ie: if they can get through 8/24) will let us know if they can get to us next month. Looking @ the polls it looks like the 24 – 31 are BIG days !! UGHGHGHGH come on news — I was just so wanting to get our referral next month!!
October 19th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
No TA here yet either. I keep hear Tom Petty echo in my ears …. “the waiting is the hardest part”….
October 19th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
WaitingforAllie, oh i thought you received your TA. we can hope together for tomorrow. i know you are just as eager as i am. cyber smiles to you. jfk
October 19th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
The only good news is we have a better chance of traveling the same days if our TA’s come in around the same time..yes? Enjoy this day.
October 19th, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Who are those spies that get all the information about packages being shipped. We need them now…..
October 19th, 2006 at 1:56 pm
tg and coartney, have you heard from your agency? any news at all? just curious (i guess we all are…duh)
October 19th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
NO TA’S here. Our acceptance letter didn’t get back to China until Oct 12th. I guess with the week closing it threw things off. I am really bummed! I wanted to be there for Joleigh’s birthday on 11-5, but probaby not happening. I didn’t read the post about delayed TA’s, where can I find it?
Mendy
October 19th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
jfkof3 – no TA yet – sob – we got an email from our agency about what will happen when we get the TA and I was so thinking it was telling us that we HAD the TA that it took me 5 times reading it to understand. My birthday is tomorrow so I am willing it to happen by then.
October 19th, 2006 at 2:23 pm
Happy Hour – I’m with you, come on, Spies, go to work & come back to report asap :-D
RK – anything from the throne???
misformom lid 8/19
October 19th, 2006 at 2:25 pm
christina, sent you a copy of the email I just sent our agency. Take a look at it. Email me back…
October 19th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
christina, sobbing with you. it is not an ‘iffy’ it’s a ‘whenny’.
mendy, the post from meetoo is on this thread, about 18 down, right after christina’s post and right before, rachaelsmom’s post.
http://www.HelloKatieGirl.com
October 19th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
smalltowngirl, can you share? paaaa-lease! thanks, jfk
October 19th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
nothing from our agency on the remaining TAs or referrals yet. sorry.
the DW and I were talking (her email’s down) and we were trying to remember; I think last month we didn’t find out until late Friday that the CCAA sent the referrals out, they changed their site on Sunday night (monday for them), and then the referrals started arriving Monday/Tuesday, etc.
anyone thinking of a repeat this time around?
October 19th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
jfkof3 & others still waiting on TA’s. We too are still waiting. At this point I don’t think we will get our TA until next week.
Maybe they will come early next week– Like Monday– maybe?? I hope!! Surely they can’t be too far behind the others, right??
October 19th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
tg, you are correct. we received our referral sept 25th but we did not see Katie’s picture until sept. 27th. i did appreciate the ccaa changing their site rather quickly last month instead of waiting for a week, that was nice.
October 19th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
jfkof3…..nothing much….we just got an email from our agency outlining the extended stay we will have because of our kids being in Guangdong province. Some of what was written was confusing to both us. They do think we will get TA soon though….but usually RQ and those on this group are much faster in providing us info. No worries—we will keep you posted!
October 19th, 2006 at 2:38 pm
tg,
I remember last month because it was a horribly long weekend for me. I think we are looking at a repeat for sure. I am thinking I am in for a repeat of what you must have felt when you saw the “missed it by one day” news. I am trying to prepare myself for that now, I just don’t know how…..
Anyway, long weekend for you too I know. Good luck with the sleeping thing- LOL.
: ) wfp
October 19th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
smalltowngirl, thanks girl, I appreciate it.
Group Cyber HUGS for EVERYONE.
October 19th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
where is ankiepoelmans?
Are you from Holland or Belgium? (your name is dutch)
Your agency received “already” referrals???
It’s bizar to me, because my agency confirmed me (yesterday) that our dossier is referred (LID 8/23) but not sent out yet. They expect our dossier at the beginning of next week.
Oh yeah: they don’t have any later LID’s in August 2005 ! So don’t give up hope yet, LID’s 8/24 !!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
hugs are good, thanks jfk :)
waitingforpink- i know how you’re feeling, as you know…all I can say is that the DW and I just let ourselves be frustrated, angry, sad, whatever we felt…then a couple days later, after seeing the new referral pics, talking on here, thinking about it all; just like a switch flipping in our heads and hearts, we were okay with it. like the DW posted, the four weeks will go fast even if at times it doesn’t seem like it. plus, the great thing is that as the referral time nears…you KNOW you’re next. This four weeks for us has been pretty relaxing and we’ve been able to plan some things and take care of other things since we knew we’d be next for sure.
Believe me, let yourself wallow a bit, but then it’ll turn around and you’ll feel relaxed and able to let yourself get all excited about things again. :)
Obviously we’re hoping the 24th (and more) are included this time though!!! :)
October 19th, 2006 at 2:52 pm
Hi everyone!
I’m becoming a woman on the edge. We are LID 8-26 and I’m resigned to not hearing anything this month, yet I still hold on to the faint glimmer of hope that we could be included. And the hopes of farther than the 24th of August are not just selfish for us, we have friends that are in the paperchase right now…
Anyway, I’ve got to know something. Does anyone have any idea of how many boys have unexpectedly been referred lately? I had a dream last night that we got our referral (I don’t know if it was this month or next) and it was for a 22 month old boy. Now I would be thrilled with a child, boy or girl, but it threw me into a tailspin because the nursery we have prepared is VERY pink. I woke up this morning thinking that I had to drive to Lowe’s to buy some blue paint…
I was just wondering if boys were actually being referred, or if it is just urban legend. (I need to know if I should get some blue paint ready…)
October 19th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
I don’t know what our agency is expecting, but I haven’t seen a batch of referrals come from the CCAA without them getting some. They get their mail in the morning and they start making calls soon after they receive them with the basic information translated. By the time you get in later that same day, they have everything translated. I know last time we got the call before 11:00 (and many got calls before us..they had 35 calls to make that day) and we had a 2:00 appointment (which was an hour away). I liked not having to sit around and wait. We had just enough time to get my husband home from work, pick up the other kids, and drive in to see our daughter’s file. I can’t believe we get to do this again pretty soon (lid 9/29). People from our agency are often some of the first to post the good news, so I’ll keep you posted if I hear anything.
October 19th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
Your guess is as good as mine. I don’t know why they make us suffer so!
October 19th, 2006 at 2:57 pm
FireworksinCT-
Yes, they do refer boys, expected and otherwise. Don’t buy the blue paint yet, but you may need to when the time comes!
: ) wfp (can you tell I haven’t bought anything blue????)
October 19th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
Seems to me there were like 3-4 unexpected and unrequested referrals of boys in the July referrals….
October 19th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
jfkof3:
Our coordinator informed us today to go ahead and apply for our visa. I hope she knows more than me. Maybe we will hear first of the week. Anyways, I will be ready to roll! Hope to see ya in China.
http://www.celebrateadoption.com/journeytojoleigh
October 19th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
No real news here, but just wanted to add that I have seen several blogs (on my long list of blogs I follow)with August 20ish LID’s who are confirming that their agency has alerted them that their referral is “on it’s way”… and that Aug 24 is included.
:)
Amy (LID 07/22/06)
October 19th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Our agency posted today that they expect referrals next week up to the 8/24 LID should be included. Large not China only agency who’s learning to share information better…..even if there is no information to share!
October 19th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
adasinchina— if that is true about the 24th included, then it would be very big news indeed!
October 19th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
I would love to see all my friends w/ 8/24 and 8/25 LIDS included. I just hope the speculation to this point is correct as I’m 8/22 and if that doesn’t happen now I’ll need a rubber room – Alcohol won’t cure it
October 19th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
Mendy,
Our agency made us all (in our travel group) apply for our visas last week….so for us, it did not coincide with TA. Shortly after receiving our referral, we were given approximate travel dates (with a 50% chance of it changing). How very P.C. of them. LOL!
I am still hoping we get TA next week….afterall, that will be our 4th week of waiting from acceptance letters returned.
October 19th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Thanks! Changing the subject a bit—recommendations for travel? Who to use? Great rates?
Mendy
October 19th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
I haven’t heard anything either. I had to run to the grocery. Can you believe my boys still expect to eat during this adoption? I hope the rumour about going through the 24th is true. I think that would be a positive sign, since the 23rd and 24th are large LID dates. I would love to see the rest of August, but I don’t know.
jfk-Wow, Katie is so cute!!! We’re going to have a Cate too, but obviously with a “C”
October 19th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Mendy – I’ve been saving some travel tidbits that people have sent me: Sonohotel.com – book hotels, they have a print off that tells a taxi driver to take you to the hotel. I’ve heard to save $$, stay at the Victory instead of the White Swan – and that they are about 5 minutes apart (walking) I’ve heard flychina.com is a good site to comparision shop airlines. Since I haven’t made travel arrangements, I can’t confirm these are great sites, but some that were recommended. Trust me, I’m looking for the deals!
October 19th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
Do you all really think you can rely on these referrals coming in next week? My agency tells me that there is no way anyone can know that and that it has to be based on rumor, since the CCAA has not confirmed anything about referrals yet. I would certainly love to believe that as I am August 11 LID! But why would some agencies know about the referrals and others don’t?
October 19th, 2006 at 4:51 pm
I am another one here putting in a good word for Cathay Pacific. We flew them on our honeymoon, and they are awesome – very clean planes and very nice flight attendants and airline workers. I just flew United to and from Hong Kong last week, and they were okay – but I really prefer Cathay Pacific – so that is who we plan to use when go over for the adoption.
October 19th, 2006 at 5:31 pm
Laurisue,
Referrals have been coming around the 23rd to 26th for most of this year. It seems pretty constant.
October 19th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Lauriesue….same thing happened last month. Rumors had it referrals had been mailed, and they were.
October 19th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
Hey all,
This thread is getting SO exciting! I’m keeping fingers, toes, knees, ankles and eyes crossed for a HUGE group o’referrals tomorrow!
Now, let me share a cute photo with y’all — it’s my MOTORCYCLE BABY in Guangdong! She was just in the corner of the shot, but that didn’t matter — I cropped her out and posted her on my blog.
Before you go check, when I got an email from the lovely Sarah, currently in Guangzhou, she said she had another photo of my daughter, Katie, on a motorcycle. My first, second, third and fourth thoughts (in about 10 nano seconds) were: WHAT? They let babies on motorcycles in China? WHAT? What’s she doing on a motorcycle? WHAT? Where are they taking my baby? and WHAT? Huh? Then, I saw the picture and was relieved to see she’s just sitting on it!
Who cares? I got another picture of my baby!
Only 13 days ’til we travel, and 18 days ’til she’s in my arms!!
Okay, if you want to see her, click on my name (in purple). And PLEASE leave a comment — this is for posterity!
COME ON REFERRALS!!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 5:52 pm
lauriesue-
our agency posted they were informed that the CCAA was working on this next group of referrals. More often than not, within days of this being posted, the referrals go out…or sometimes are already in the air and on the way.
and trulyblessed…
that’s a great photo…how cute is that?!
October 19th, 2006 at 5:54 pm
oh i should note that our agency posted this yesterday the 18th. sorry.
October 19th, 2006 at 6:44 pm
Mendy, i’m with waitingforallie….we have already received our chinese visas last friday. get busy girl. oh, go see the movie…facing the giants, it’s rated pg.
Coartney, thanks, you’re very sweet.
Still, hoping for TA’s tomorrow!!! I don’t know how I can miss someone that I have not met….
Christina, A BIG Happy Birthday tomorrow (Friday). Enjoy your day, you have allllllot to celebrate.
October 19th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
Hi trulyblessed,
You are truly blessed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But i guess you know that allready….LOL:-)
LID 08-24-05
October 19th, 2006 at 6:51 pm
Coartney, your daughter is Cate, I like the ‘C’. Looking forward to her picture !!
October 19th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
thanks jfkof3! makes me cry to think of what a special year this will always be to us. and luckily i can bring the phone outside as I am taking the day off to have personal time and plant next spring’s bulbs. crossing my fingers extra hard that TAs come tomorrow and we get a call.
October 19th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
Coartney – I just love the name Cate. It was our top choice for a very long time. But the Irish roots won out in the end.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
trulyblessed – your baby is totally cute !!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 7:10 pm
TG – I’m awake and you guys are still chatting – lol. Didn’t sleep well at all.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:14 pm
trulyblessed-She is a cutie!! How wonderful that your friend is sending those pictures.
christina-thanks, it makes me so happy to see her name in print. Our oldest son chose her first name, Catherine (Cate) and our other son chose her middle name, Cooper. It’s after one of his favorite authors. I hope you get that phone call tomorrow and can really enjoy your day off.
Sorry you didn’t sleep well, suejay.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
Have a very happy birthday tomorrow Christina!!! Hope you get a paper present from CCAA!
October 19th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
TrulyBlessed-
Just visited your site. WOW! Katie is georgous. Can’t wait to live vicariously through your journey. Post often…we want to hear about it ALL!!!!
:-)
Laureen
8/30/05
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
October 19th, 2006 at 9:51 pm
Thanks for the info on plane fares. We heard this afternoon that we should receive our TA next week and travel about the same time frame as ones that have received TA/CA. Now, that is what I heard……..believe it when I hear it for myself………or see in writing. I am busy-busy getting ready!
jfkof3 Have you seen the movie “facing the giants”? I really want to see that and my 9 year old would love it—-anything football.
Thanks
October 19th, 2006 at 10:09 pm
mendy, thanks for your agency’s info. we haven’t heard anything. yes, we went to see the movie (facing the giants) today. i truly liked the message. my younger son loves football,too. take kleenex!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
Hi Gang!
We have a travel date!!!! We are going Nov 9-22. The rest in our travel group did not get their TA’s yet, but our agency said they should still travel with us. They may have to spend another day or two in Guangzhou.
My heart and prayers go out to those of you still waiting for your TA, hang in there!
Good luck referral gang!
M
October 19th, 2006 at 11:24 pm
OH MY GOSH….the CCAA website just went down. Maybe they are updating it!!!!!! Someone else try to get on…maybe it is just me. OH MY GOSH!!!!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:26 pm
I just got in, no changes yet.
Sorry.
October 19th, 2006 at 11:27 pm
ahhh man….depressing….sorry for all the excitement for nothin!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:27 pm
Trulyblessed,
your daughter is just too cute!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 11:46 pm
Not to fixate on the CCAA website or anything but…… I just noticed that they have a hit counter. It says I am the 999,999 visitor. Too funny….I wonder what it will be by the monday! (I think they call this “Stalking”)
Goodnight everyone!
October 20th, 2006 at 2:13 am
Hi,
I’m sorry, but I didn’t know the information would be so important, I thought that another agency (our maybe the same as ours) had already said that they had received refferals for 23/8.
I have the information from an other adoptionparent that is adopting with the same agency, they had contact with our agency. So I’m sorry but I don’t know much more than what they told me.
Btw, thanks for the people that called me a fraud.
Sorry, I didn’t react sooner, but during the day I have a job and don’t have the time to go on the internet.
I don’t know how to send the info to the King, it’s also not really my info, it’s secondhanded.
I hope they will go further than the 23/8, our LID is 10/10.
Hope that will clear things up.
October 20th, 2006 at 2:27 am
Hi, donandtamara… is this “delivery service” you mentioned the same as the courier service used by “our” agency to send documents to china?? My DTC is 10-19-06!!! Finally!!!Yippee. The courier picked up my dossier today. Just wondering if they would bring your referral back after taking my DTC??? We are very excited for you.
bbpop :)
October 20th, 2006 at 2:54 am
Hi ankiepoelmans,
Maybe it’s a language miscommunication, but I don’t think you were clear in your original message and that’s what got everyone so excited.
You were and are the first person to say that referrals have actually been received. Are you sure that they have been received, or have people from your agency just been informed that they will be included in the next group.
No one was really calling you a fraud – everyone is just a little excitable, understandably!!
October 20th, 2006 at 6:51 am
Ages later (due to time zones):
1) we Europeans usually do NOT recieve referrals before you Americans, on the contrary: they use to come at least 3 days later
2) the CCAA does’nt need to take the website down to update (you guys will never learn it ;-)). But too many users hitting it at the same time could cause a crash…
October 20th, 2006 at 7:14 am
Ladies and gentlemen. I would like to take a pause here to interject one small note. We are ALL excited and nervous about the referral process. I would like for anyone who is posting information about referrals, TA’s or CA’s to state in their post if the information is first hand or otherwise. I believe that if we remain factual we can avoid any miscommunications.
One final note. Be civil to each other.
October 20th, 2006 at 8:08 am
RK-
just wondering if you’re just moderating and that’s it, or if you have access to the email RQ gets. Are you going to post anything ‘new’ &/or relevant in regards to referrals going out or the remaining TAs arriving. ???
thx
-LID 8.10.05 and waiting for ‘the stork’….
October 20th, 2006 at 8:56 am
to kaylismimi:
thanks for the kind words and the info about the Hum/Sing Elmo! :) I appreciate it!
October 20th, 2006 at 9:23 am
I saw the Hum/Sing Elmo yesterday while shopping.
OMG – sooooo cute!!!
October 20th, 2006 at 9:26 am
I’ve got to find this Elmo.
Totally different topic…I had a dream the other night that I was looking at the CCAA site and it had been updated to include 8/25.
I suspect it will truly be, only in my dreams, though.
:o(
Mary
LID 8/25/05 and hanging in the balance right now…
October 20th, 2006 at 9:26 am
lol sebago girl…yes it is…i think the DW and I will play with that as much as the kiddo. hehe :)
October 20th, 2006 at 9:29 am
Ok everybody, good morning, now, can we get on to the news????!!!
I need to hear something before this weekend!
Add me to the list of those who didn’t sleep last night (despite me telling myself that we are not included this month – hope springs eternal).
: ) wfp 8/24
October 20th, 2006 at 9:41 am
Hi wfp— with you on all accounts. I was up at 2am checking CCAA site.
8/24/05
October 20th, 2006 at 9:42 am
Good Morning everyone! Hope you hear good news of referrals and of TA/CA’s today. Not much longer now! (hopefully)
http://www.celebrateadoption.com/journeytojoleigh
October 20th, 2006 at 9:44 am
Looneytunes32
I keep thinking that the CCAA site will say Aug.25 too!!!
I had a wicked vivid dream a couple of weeks ago that my baby was born on Feb.2nd. hmmmmmmm
For our first adoption, my weird adoption dreams started just before referral!
I e-mailed my agency, begging for information – we’ll see what they say.
October 20th, 2006 at 9:52 am
tg, you and your dw are like my dh. He enjoys the toys as much as the kids (or more), too funny.
Word from our agency, NO TA’s for us today. I’m thankful we have a busy weekend but I’ll be watching for the referrals for our friends. best wishes. jfk
October 20th, 2006 at 9:54 am
Leia, oh my, I know your feelings right now with all the cut-off rumors. hang in there girl !!
October 20th, 2006 at 9:57 am
Thanks jfk. May you have a peaceful weekend! I am truly sorry about your TA not arriving today.
October 20th, 2006 at 10:12 am
The price I purchased the Elmo at the store was also $14.99. We have had him now a couple of days and really silly, but I look forward to getting home from work and hearing him sing and giggling. This waiting thing must be playing with my brain!
October 20th, 2006 at 10:14 am
mom4tori-
it’s not silly…
must admit i was humming ‘pop goes the weasel’ off and on yesterday…lol
October 20th, 2006 at 10:21 am
Ankiepoelmans – I’m sorry you felt badly about the comment(s) I know one was me, and truly, it was tounge-in-cheek… It was in fun – sorry at your expense. Many of us are on the edge of our seats……. Please forgive me!
October 20th, 2006 at 10:35 am
if anyone finds out that “the stork” is flying do post or something…PLEASE!!!
i’d love to go into the weekend at least knowing referrals are on the way!
October 20th, 2006 at 10:37 am
At what point do we give up hearing anything today?
October 20th, 2006 at 10:40 am
Regarding the CCAA website….the counter that you thought was logging you in at 999,999 is permanantly on that number…..maybe it doesn’t go up to 1 million. I guess they never thought that many people would be logging on when they developed the program.
Little did they know!
October 20th, 2006 at 10:43 am
Hi all, I am loving the dreams and vision of seeing the CCAA website and it includes 8/25. I am still going to be an optimist and know that it IS possible!!! Hang in there everyone, our babies will be with us before we know it! Blessings to all, Jill
LID 8/25/06
October 20th, 2006 at 10:47 am
Angelsinpower – do you mean 8/25/05?
Mary
8/25/05
October 20th, 2006 at 10:47 am
Well, if we are dreaming, then lets include all of August.
October 20th, 2006 at 10:55 am
w4pink-
i think last month we didn’t hear that the referrals had actually been sent until late in the day that Friday…
October 20th, 2006 at 11:01 am
great, so I have the rest of the day to obsess. How am I supposed to get any work done???????
October 20th, 2006 at 11:01 am
We did hear on Friday and the CCAA website was updated on Sunday evening. I remember looking at it and it hadn’t changed then went and hit refresh and it said thru Aug 9th. I screamed and hollared and cried (lid 8-8-05) My DH kept saying is that a good cry or not? Are we in or not? I will never forget that moment or the best one when we pulled Joleigh’s picture up on the computer! Now, I am ready to go and hold her and make another very best moment. Sorry to rattle on……I am so excited for the ones about to receive referrals. It is an AWESOME feeling. I now wonder what the feeling is like when you receive TA/CA? Still waiting on that one!
October 20th, 2006 at 11:02 am
Someone from Spain apparently has the scoop re the cutoff, see rumor thread.
October 20th, 2006 at 11:03 am
sorry looneytunes (and others) my fantasies and typing can’t keep up with each other. Yes, I did mean 8/25/05. My gut is still telling me that we will be in China in December. I don’t know what I would do without this website. My husband thinks I am an addict, but somehow it keeps me sane. I can’t wait to meet you all. Lets keep our chant of AOA going, ok? Blessings, Jill
October 20th, 2006 at 11:12 am
I know RQ’s polls are not perfect science, and I’m no mathemetician, and many of you have probably already done this but… the number of (polled) referrals in August was 138. In September it was up to 170. IF the CCAA makes it through the 24th this time, it would be 187. (The most recent poll shows 187 while the previous poll is only 4 less than that for 8-10 through 8-24.) What I’m saying is that this would not be a huge increase from last month, considering the previous jump, but if the 24th is not included, it would be a very disappointing decrease. I’m hoping it is reasonable and realistic to hope for this. Hang in there everyone!
October 20th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Hey I just checked the CCAA website and it is DOWN! Maybe things are beginning to CHANGE! Hold on the roller coaster is beginning to climb…tick.tick..tick…tick
October 20th, 2006 at 11:15 am
if anyone hasn’t checked “a spot for rumors”
you probably should
October 20th, 2006 at 11:28 am
I am happy for all new parents!
But disappointed for the rest of us. No I don’ t feel very flowerypowery or laid back with this wait.
But I think that maybe some of the 24th of August could have been matched, had they wanted to splt the date, so maybe we will se some more next month.
October 20th, 2006 at 11:30 am
angelsinpower – curious what agency you are with. If you click on my name you can email me through my site if you want….it would be great to meet up with some of my fellow RQ’ers.
Mary
8/25/05 and it’s going to be a long month.
October 20th, 2006 at 11:42 am
According to the Spain site, the cutoff is definitely the 23rd. For those that will be included in this next batch, Congrats!! For those that are LID on the 24th and after (we are 9-5-05 LID), hang in there. We are inching closer and closer.
October 20th, 2006 at 11:43 am
Considering I somewhat expected this, I’m incredibly disappointed and bummed.
…..sigh…..
October 20th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
This doesn’t bode well for next month. We’ll be lucky if we only see 3 LID days included next month:(
LID 8/24
October 20th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Just want to say congrats to all who are going to see the faces of their little ones and I’m so sorry for everyone who missed the cut off by a few days.
I’m personally so bummed that the cut off was only 8/23… I felt like this was the month we would see some sort of speed up and it is looking as though our wait will stretch beyond 18 months with a 12/14 LID… it is hard to comprehend and we feel like each month, we take a huge step backwards.
October 20th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
I think at this point, anyone who says ‘ccaa wants to hold the wait at 12-14 months’ or ‘ ccaa does not want the wait to stretch too long, they must have a plan’ or ‘they’ll have to speed up at some point because no one wants a 2 year wait, even the ccaa’ has to face reality now.
its scary in a way that all the bad things we heard months ago but didn’t want to believe — like the 18 month wait from australia, and now the 2 year wait some agencies are finally predicting for summer/fall 06 folks — seem to be coming true.
none of the good stuff, only the bad stuff.
even the 8/23 rumor that we didnt want to believe yesterday seems to have come true.
October 20th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
eli-I had that same thought. I was thinking yesterday that every month since we started that it has been bad news each month with the referrals. So I was thinking we were “due” some good luck with it at least making it through the 24th or later. Well, guess our whole experience will be with bad news coming true. I know it will all be worth it in the end but gee, I was so ready for lots of happy people on this site!! I am really happy for all those that are matched though, and can’t wait to see the pics-they are what will help me survive this next month. LID 8/24
October 20th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Congratulations to TG and all those about to receive referrals!!
jfkof3, any news yet?? None here…
October 20th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Oh Wrigsassy, i’m sorry you missed the cutoff! That stinks. And i’m sorry to anyone who missed it ( and everyone else looking at an ever-increasing wait)
October 20th, 2006 at 2:19 pm
smalltowngirl, no TA today, girl. Let’s hope for Monday. Enjoy your weekend, smiles to you. jfk
October 20th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Darn, was hoping for you! The weekend is my work week unfortunately….but only these 3 days, and next week 3 more. Have a good weekend!
October 20th, 2006 at 2:31 pm
smalltowngirl, that’s good you will be busy!!! hang in there. jfk
October 20th, 2006 at 3:47 pm
I’m not understanding why people have concluded 8.23 is the cutoff. There has been NO OFFICIAL confirmation as such. The fact that something appeared on a Spanish board even if it said there is “confirmation” still makes it still a RUMOR. The only way we’ll know for sure is when the CCAA posts.
October 20th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
You are correct, Photohappy… Even though I’m an 8/22 LID and it looks like things are going my way… until I hear it from my agency or see it on CCAA, I can’t not breathe easily. Did check with my agency to see if the Delivery truck had been there yet today…. :-(
October 20th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
If the CCAA keeps doing half a month every month eventually the wait will be up to four years!!!
As more people come on board, each subsequent month will have a longer wait.
As it stands now we have a LID of 4/06 and if there is half month referred every month that will see us traveling in March or April of 2008!!!!
Figure it out yourself…just give every month two months to be gotten thru and it takes us to a 2 year wait for anyone who has a 4/06 LID. It will be slightly shorter for earlier LID and longer for those logged in after 4/06.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you calculate half month referrals, those LID in 10/06 won’t get their referrals until Feb. of 2009 and won;t travel until March or April of 2009!!! That is about a 29 month WAIT.
If it keeps going this way the program will grind to a halt. How many people are going to want to commit to an adoption that is three years away?. Maybe some, but not so many!!!
It stinks, it really stinks.
Especially knowing that there are babies in China that need homes today.
October 20th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
Different topic – I just saw on one agency’ s webbsite that the wait for referral from Vietnam is as long as China’s. It has been creeping up real quick over the summer (guess why…).
And on top of the wait for referral you need to wait for travel for several months, so it is actually longer.
So I guess the best thing for us might still be to hang in there, at least for us who are already LID.
October 20th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
flowerpower – I checked on other programs after last month’s assignments (and when I did the math on a realistic waiting time for our 3/21/06 LID). By the time we’d start with any other alternative, the waiting would be as long or longer, including Vietnam for the reasons you just stated. We’re older (me 49, DH 40)
which puts us out of the running for some countries and we were told domestic adoption isn’t a great shot for us because of our age. Anyone with suggestions, I’d love to hear them.
October 20th, 2006 at 6:24 pm
Regarding the China length getting longer, my China Only agency stated that there will be something happening the 1st of the year. However they do not what it would be. Also we have a 10-06 LID date and they stated the wait will be around 2 years. SO with that said, I don’t assume the China government will take any drastic measures to cut the wait time. ????
Also they spoke about the China government commenting on the wait. It was said that China is still very determined to have the IA program. However the SW said that CCAA stated that the parents need to patient and wait for now.
So I am guessing 2-3 years, with anything sooner would be a happy day!
October 20th, 2006 at 7:53 pm
2-3 Years…!!! Ouch.
I just called my friend who had a baby in Feb. She is pregnant again! She will have had 2 babies while I have been waiting.
I told her at the rate it is going, her babies will be babysitting for my little one.
Let’s hope nothing else comes up to further slow the wait…like bird flu or something. That is all we need now.
October 20th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Hi All,
This is WaitingforCelia2, dh of WaitingforCelia. I don’t read RQ as voraciously as my dw, but I’ve been here along with you all for some time. Even though we’re not LID until 9/29, we were really REALLY hoping we would get through 8/24 this month (and we still might? maybe?). Big smile for all those who will get to see a picture of their little girl (or boy) for the first time over the next week. Big hug to those who just missed.
A little analysis I’ve done based on RQ’s numbers. If I’m off, please correct me RQ when you return safely from your travels!
First, a general observation. Based on RQ’s 10/13 post “Some Calculations†and her poll numbers, it looks like RQ’s polls include about one quarter of the international China adoption community (pretty amazing!). Over the last six months there has been an average of about 150 poll referrals per month, and in “Some Calculations†RQ reports that there have been about 600 NSN referrals per month. (Keep in mind that these are all very rough approximations.) This means that if CCAA goes back to 1000 referrals a month, which seems to have been the recent norm prior to the slow down, we would get through about 250 poll referrals each month.
If I added right, here are the number of poll referrals over the last six months (assuming, alas, that the 23rd is the cut off date this month):
May: 151
June: 230
July: 133
August: 138
September: 170
October: 109
Average: 155
June/July was a real rollercoaster. Getting through 230 in June made it look like things were getting back to 1000 real referrals a month (about 250 poll referrals). Sigh. Not to be.
A little more analysis I’ve done based on our 9/29 LID. Sorry to be using just one date, but hopefully it will at least provide some context for others.
For a 9/29 LID to get their referral in the month below, these are the number of poll referrals we would need to average each month until then:
December: 252
January: 168
February: 126
March: 101
Quick analysis:
-The only chance 9/29 LIDers have of getting a referral in December is if CCAA suddenly returns to the old rate of about 1000 referrals a month starting next month. (Note that if we looked only at the number of days of referrals CCAA gets through next month, we wouldn’t have to get far to be on pace—only 10 days to September 2. Even if we only get through 3 days next month, that’s still 145 poll referrals, about average for the last six months. 3 days would still make my stomach do multiple somersaults, but it’s not quite as bad as it looks.)
-I think January is still in play for 9/29 LIDers. The number of referrals each month will have to go up, but (cautious optimism here!) there does seem to be some changes that make a small increase in the number of referrals plausible and it does seem possible that CCAA has already made a little progress with the 24th. In order to be on pace, we would only need to get through August 30 next month. (In fact, that would put us a fair bit ahead of pace.)
-It seems fairly likely that 9/29 LIDers will have a referral by February at the latest. In order to miss February, we would have to experience a pretty serious slowdown, even in comparison to the last year. In the last six months, only this month has been lower than 126 poll referrals, and it seems likely that this was due to how hard it was to get through the mountain of referrals on the 24th. But, sigh, you just never know. In order to be on pace, we would only need to get through the 26th next month.
IMHO, if 9/29 LIDers don’t get their referrals until March it’s fairly likely we’re experiencing a much more fundamental change in China’s international adoption program than a slowdown, although I suppose that just a slower slowdown than we’ve already experienced is possible.
This has been such a hard process for all of us. I just ache for my little girl. I know she’s out there somewhere, tugging on that red thread the best she can. I half believe that if I flew to China and just started wandering around we would somehow find each other well before our referral arrived. But as hard as it is I try to remember how lucky I am. Lucky that she’s coming into our life. Lucky for having a wonderful partner to love her with. Lucky to be in a place that I can reach out to China to find my little girl. Lucky even that China reaches back (in its own way, but it does reach back). Thinking about this doesn’t make the ache go away, but I try to remember that my heart is a lot bigger than the part that aches. I think I forget sometimes.
Thanks to all, the RQ and her court, who have made waiting a little easier,
WaitingforCelia2
October 20th, 2006 at 8:13 pm
WaitingForCelia: Does WaitingForCelia2 have a single brother in the wings somewhere? My heart just melted when he spoke of how lucky he is….
Chilly
Single mom on Day #73 of TA wait for SN child
October 20th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
WaitingForCecilia2~ Okay, just when I was sooo down about a late Dec 05 LID I read your post. Thank you. I have to remember all of what you say. We are lucky. We may have to wait longer than we hoped, but we ARE lucky.
The visual of your little girl pulling on that red thread made me cry. I will keep that in mind when I am down. She is there, we are here and we are both holding on for dear life! We will meet. When? I don’t know. But we will. Until I can hold her safe in my arms, I will hold her in my heart.
We hope you see your daughter soon! Sounds like she has a wonderful Dad waiting for her!!!!!!!!!
wearewaiting
LID 12-28-05
October 20th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
WaitingFor Cecilia2 – Thank you for your post – this wait affects so many more than those of us that are on the vocal front line. My husband is in the background, depending upon me to “speak for him” – the silent partner. We’re all very emotional and so thankful for this forum. Gosh…I pray RQ hurries home. I’m about a mess from the stress today!
October 20th, 2006 at 9:53 pm
chilly,
I just went on your site and read the letters from your son. You are so blessed. What an amazing young man. I hope you receive your TA very soon.
October 20th, 2006 at 9:56 pm
chilly,
Sorry, my DH only has 3 sisters, no single brothers! :) I feel lucky to have him. Yes, he will make a wonderful dad! (hopefully sooner rather than later…)
October 20th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
Chilly~ You are so lucky to have such an amazing son! I hope you have a speedy TA so you can see him sign the poem to you. Wow!
October 20th, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Chilly,
Wow. That’s all I can say.
I have to echo Luna’s sentiments, your son sounds like an amazing young man.
I have three sons (two teens, and an 11 1/2 year old) — they are the greatest people. They are funny, smart, compassionate, loving, silly, serious, goofy and can be incredibly profound at times. I am in awe of the young men they are, and proud of the men they are becoming. I know you will feel the same way about your wonderful son.
Congratulations! I hope your TA comes quickly, because there is a young man on the other side of the world who needs his MAMA!!
God Bless You both!~
October 20th, 2006 at 10:32 pm
Aug 24 people: you may want to check out the last few posts on the “spot for tumours” thread. Someone says she has spoken directly with her (small) agency who has confirmed with CCAA that some or all of their Aug 24 LIDs WILL be included in this next batch. (Or am I misreading? It seemed pretty clear, and not secondhand.) Anyhoo, just wanted to let you know before you finished that bottle of wine and bid adieu to basic motor skills ;)
October 20th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
threeblue-think the basic motor skills were already gone ;)
Aug 24 people: you may want to check out the last few posts on the “spot for tumours†thread.
in the words of Aaahnold in ‘kindergarten cop’: “it’s not a tumour” LOL
Big Hugs!
i think i need some of that wine…and i’ll toast to the hope that there’s more than just through the 23rd.
p.s. maybe the CCAA will update Sunday night (Monday in China)????????????????????
October 21st, 2006 at 6:40 am
PJ party!
October 21st, 2006 at 6:53 am
Dear WaitingforCelia2 and Chilly,
You two had me sniffling even before I had my morning coffee!!!!
Waiting…what beautiful words. Thank you for sharing your sentiments.
And Chilly…I was barely hanging on to my emotions after reading Waiting, but your site put me clean over the edge! Your son has a beautiful smile. And his letters are so dear! I hope you get there soon. Fingers crossed for you!
M
October 21st, 2006 at 8:28 am
Hi Looneytunes, I tried to access you thru your blog and couldn’t figure it out. sorry, I am new to all of these cool ways to communicate. I loved your blog and am inspired to create one…I also loved seeing your two sons, as we have two also- nearly 9 and 11. They will go with us to China. Will yours? they are so ready to have a little sister. I called on every angel I could think of last night for AOA. It ain’t over yet, so lets keep praying for magic and miracles. Please let me know how to reach you! Blessings, Jill
October 21st, 2006 at 11:28 am
So, I am sitting here at the computer and have NPR on the radio in the background. I am listening to “Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me!” and just heard the following comment (in reference to Madonna) “Looks like the ‘must have’ celebrity accessory is a child from the third world.”
I could scream! I’d expect this on Inside Edition but…NPR???
Laureen
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
October 21st, 2006 at 11:42 am
I love Saturdays on NPR. But why do they all think that is so funny? I mean even from a joke outlook it’s been done before. Too bad, I think Ill turn it off!
October 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pm
Chilly
Would you mind sharing your blog link. I would love to read your story. Everyone is saying great things about it, if you wouldn’t mind. Thanks
October 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pm
Anybody gonna watch some college football today? I love football–especially College.
October 21st, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Mendy,
I am headed to the Boston College/ Florida State University game in just a few minutes.
Would love to watch the Iowa/ Michigan game as well.
October 21st, 2006 at 2:06 pm
Mendy,
I’ll type it out for ya, but here’s a little secret about the RQ site–if a person’s name shows up in purple, it’s because there’s a link to their site behind it, so if you want to see a blog for anyone whose name is in purple, just click it, and voila!
http://360.yahoo.com/adoptingdeaf
And thanks to everyone for all the nice things you’ve said about my son. SN TA’s could just come any day now, and I’d be happy…I feel your pain and am praying for all of you to get speedy referrals.
Chilly
October 21st, 2006 at 4:13 pm
ADE-
You’re torturing me!!! I love FSU but I am from Boston…
:-)
Laureen
LID 8/30/05
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
October 21st, 2006 at 6:25 pm
p.s. annnnndddd the buckeyes remain undefeated and #1.
;)
GO BUCKS!
October 21st, 2006 at 8:28 pm
Hey Chilly,
The address for your blog caught my eye so I gave it a click. It’s a small world we live in. I am one of your fellow Deaf camp directors.
Sorry to hear you are still waiting for your TA.
Hang in there,
WetBird (a play on mine and dh’s last names)
LID 10.18.05
October 21st, 2006 at 9:19 pm
WetBird,
I have no clue what your DH’s last name is, but the only “wet” name I could think of would think the initials TJ were significant. Is that you? What’s your LID?? How funny to meet you here!
Chilly
Close of Day #73 of TA wait for Xiao Tian
October 21st, 2006 at 9:22 pm
Duh, obviously I can’t read. Too late at night. I see your lid at the end of your post now that I look again.
Chilly, feeling foolish for asking stoopid ?’s
October 21st, 2006 at 9:40 pm
Chilly,
Yup…that’s me. DH’s last name is of the avian variety. We’ve always teased that if I had hyphenated my last name it would’ve come out like WetBird, WaterFowl, etc.
73 day wait for TA…OUCH! Now I’ll stop feeling sorry for myself that we just passed our one year LID anniversary.
Take care,
WetBird
10.18.05
October 21st, 2006 at 10:27 pm
angelsinpower…
my email is maryd@hscompanies.com
Mary
8/25/05
November???
October 21st, 2006 at 11:35 pm
Why can’t I see CCAA’s site? I’ve tried since Friday morning from 4 different computer’s-2 at work and 2 at home. I keep hitting refresh…I guess too many people are all on it at once.
I hope there is good news for many of you next week!!
October 21st, 2006 at 11:59 pm
CCAA site is back up now. No changes that I could see.
Oh and yes I am aware that the site doesn’t have to come down to update (-:
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:04 am
Wetbird,
Day #73 (now #74) of TA wait is actually normal. I’m assuming you are an NSN adoption, right? (Must be, with a LID of last October) With SN adoptions (I’m adopting a deaf teen-ager, both his deafness and his age alone would qualify him as SN), things are different. TA normally comes within 3-5 months from the last major paperwork event. My LID is 08/09/06, nearly a year after yours, but I will be traveling before you will, because they process SN adoptions faster than NSN. Your time for TA starts from referral–I never had a referral, since my child was in “waiting” status and we were matched (by me) at the beginning of the process instead of the end.
So don’t waste too much sympathy on me. There are people on some of my chat boards whose dossiers got totally screwed up and put in the wrong room by CCAA (one of ‘em twice–yikes!!) and they are on day #160+. But I’m right in there, time-wise. Should happen in the next month, if all stays normal.
Chilly
Day #74 of TA wait 2006