I don’t know what is going on
Two agencies are now insinuating that we may be weeks away from seeing TA’s and referrals.
The agencies either do not know why or are not saying.
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October 30th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
Is it possible they may do two months of referals if this stretches into the beginning of November?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:14 pm
My heart goes out to all of those people waiting.
I am only just logged in and I am obsessed with the next batch of referrals.
Dina
LID
10/18/06
October 30th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
wow…that is all I can say…wow!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
i just don’t have the words if that turns out to be true.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
:’-(
misformom lid 8/19/05
October 30th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
AH! Poop, poop, and DOUBLE POOP!
LID:Aug. 30, 2005
October 30th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
Maybe this is that mid-November rumor coming true? Although, who knew they were referring to October referrals!?!?!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
tg, my agency is one that is saying this. They had previously told us that we were definitely included(8/23), and we would get referrals last week, so these past 14 days hve been unbearable. I am devestated right now, and I can’t imagine having waited all this time, missing it by one day….
What is going on over there? I don’t understand why only some of the NSN TA’s have been sent. If there were some type of problem it seems none of them would be done??? They wouldn’t really skip a month, WOULD THEY????
October 30th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Lets see how long they can make the wait until 10000+ folks go insane. . .
October 30th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
May be there is no more agencies “in the know”? What do you think?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
I’m so sorry for all of you Aug LIDers - this is sooo frustrating. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone waiting for a referral and a TA. Hoping that these rumors aren’t true and we get some good news soon.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
Let’s all go into stasis like Sigourney Weaver in Alien until this is over … I so hope this rumor is not true for all you late August LIDs. If it is (even partly) true, I hope it somehow signifies a shift in policy & major upswing in rates of referral going forward. LID 3/06
October 30th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
I can’t believe this. I was devastated when I found out that I missed the cut-off by 2 days last month, and now nothing is clear. Will referrals even come this month. Can anyone speculate what is going on? do you think there is a problem? Was there a fire in the matching room? Sorry to be so dismal, but this really seems awfully strange.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
I’m very sorry for those LIDs so close. It’s the not knowing that’s getting to us all. I hope if we’re really weeks away from seeing referrals and TAs it means CCAA is covering a lot of ground at one time, like double the referrals and TAs maybe!!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
That scares the heck out of me. Yuck.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
Maybe they are just saying it out of frustration because they are getting so many client calls, hopefully? I can’t believe they would send out some TAs and make others wait weeks longer.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
It’s got to mean they are speeding up, right? They cannot possibly slow down more!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
I tried to post this earlier. I am pretty concerned. It seems odd that both TAs and referrals are so delayed. Is there a shakeup going on? A policy change? Or just too many vacations scheduled at once?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
This news put me right over the edge. I’m 8/25 and am hopeful that my referral is coming through this month but literally sick from the emotional up and down of this month. I immediately called my agency. She sounded very positive that any day now the referrals are arriving. I hope that if she knew different she would say so. She did say that the referrals had not arrived yet though. So I am interjecting a positive response from my agency with a lot of hope and no concrete reason to believe this rumor. As someone said before la la la la la la la la I’m not listening.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
Has this ever been done in the past….???? Can we refer back to another time and come up with a possible answer?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
Do you suppose the two agencies are just REALLY tired of APs asking when we can expect referrals and TAs, and so they are saying “could be weeks” so they won’t get calls… and then suddenly the referrals will drop out of the sky as they did that other strange month…??? So strange. If this were the case, the good news would be that it wouldn’t actually be weeks before there would be good news. So sorry for those on the brink of referral and those waiting for TA, this is so stressful.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
We have TA
This is SN TA
Waiting since July
Longest birth I ever went through with my kids
And I thought the others took forever with my other children
This is my daughters first and has been just brain numbing
October 30th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
Sorry, blithering. Just trying to find some way out of a very strange scenario.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
Congratulations Justmamaw!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
this just stinks… Just when we think there might be a speed up, everything grinds to an absolute hault. I fail to see how things can possibly speed up when they aren’t issuing any referrals in October. Yuck yuck yuck… This just bites….
October 30th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
The one thought that keeps going through my mind is it was about this time last year that the CCAA changed directors and everything slowed down. Maybe they are changing directors again and things will finally begin to speed up.
For all of you Aug LID’s, my heart is breaking for you. I have a 9-29-05 LID and I’m about to lose it!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
Oh, I am so sorry to all of you waiting. I know how difficult this is! Here’s hoping that all is going to be GREAT really soon! I’ll be checking in! Hugs to you ALL.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
tiredofwaiting…
Yep..and about this time last year, things started slowing down. Wonder if that had anything to do with a new CCAA director. So far, I can’t say that I am terribly impressed with this person’s job performance….
Liz in CO
October 30th, 2006 at 4:35 pm
My heart and prayers go out to all of you August people.
LID June 7/06
October 30th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Congratulations Justmama! Could I ask when your LOI and LID dates were?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
I just threw up on my keyboard. With a very recent LID, I can’t even imagine what Aug & Sept 05 LIDs are going through.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:40 pm
LID April 3
LOI July I don’t remember the day
October 30th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
maybe i should’ve put on a cup this morning so it wouldn’t have hurt so bad getting kicked by all of this.
well, trying to stay positive…maybe we’re due for another “referrals falling from the sky” phenomenon. hopefully those referrals and TAs appear un-announced like they did a couple/three months ago. that’s all I’ve got to go on at this point.
8.10.05 LID and doubled over. but not from laughter this time. :(
October 30th, 2006 at 4:42 pm
I’m having visions of N. Korea’s Kim Jong at the helm of the CCAA. Like a bad Sat. Night Live skit….
October 30th, 2006 at 4:42 pm
My heart goes out to all of the August LID’s…mine is 9/12/05
There was reference to a similiar referral pattern on one of the yahoo groups…around the same time last year I believe.
Keep the faith…we will all see those beautiful faces soon.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
Okay, I’m normally a glass is half full person but a horrifying (and I hope crazy and absolutely off my rocker never happen) thought is that a few weeks from now (4 1/2), the CCAA year is over with the new one beginning Dec. 1. If there is a quota for this year, might it have been reached and they are holding referrals until the start of the new year?
RQ, I need some help with perspective here. Has a situation like this happened in the past? This seems so unfair to the Aug lids, especially the babies they apparently have already been matched with.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
This is ridiculous. My productivity has plummeted over the past week. How are we all supposed to be good parents while we lose our jobs from all the anxiety and lack of focus?
Is torture covered by the Hague Treaty?
(LID 8/25/06)
October 30th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
It is a good thing my doctor already gave me a letter for my home study update indicating no physical or mental health issues because I just had a heart attack and a nervous breakdown!
I was sooo hoping for an October referral after all the long months of disappointments and now it may not even be in November. LID 8 30 05
October 30th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Utterly speechless………….
LID 8/24/05
October 30th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
I think I have aged 45 years in the last 2 weeks, which is probably ok since my referral has probably too! Why is this happening?! RQ: Has anything similar happened before?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:45 pm
Maybe they’ll make it through all of August since there is a delay…ok, that’s wishful I know…CJ, LID 8/31/05
October 30th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
WHAT!!!!!! I’m so sorry for all you guys hanging on the edge. This is unreal. I’m LID 3/06 and it’s so far away it’s surreal, I can’t imagine those of you with close LID’s. I’m so sorry.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
To all of you waiting - I feel for you. I cannot imagine how excrutiating it must be. You are so close, yet so far. I am keeping everything crossed.
LID 6.13.06
October 30th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
I feel like I’m in a bad dream…
I’m becoming angry at my agency (such steril info), CCAA (just tell me the damn cut-off) and myself (for getting my hopes up).
Not having control of certain things in your life for so long can drain you of all emotions. We began this adoption only 6 months after coming home with our first dd from China.
My well of strength and patience used to run deep. Not so much any more.
8/24/05
October 30th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
So the CCAA tells us that we should exersize patience and tranquility during this wait…well, maybe if we knew why we were being patient it would help! I can be patient if I’m on hold and I know that I’m the 10th caller in line…I can be tranquil knowing that dumb a$$ who just cut me off was too busy talking on his cell phone to realize that there was anyone else on the road. I can stay focused at work on the task of telling everyone “Nothing Yet.” I can smile happily when the receptionist sends through a telemarketer. I think all that makes me a pretty tranquil and patient person.
SO WHERE THE HECK ARE THE TA’S AND REFERRALS!!!!!!!!!!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:49 pm
I’m wondering if maybe they are taking the extra days to finish the whole month of August. If they need a couple of extra days to start doing whole months again I would be happy with that if it means getting my referral in December instead of January or February. The wait is agonizing for me and I’m still several months out. I can’t imagine being so close as the August folks are and having this craziness happen. I hope the August’ers will hear something today or tonight.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
SIIIGGGHHHHH………………….
What a month. I don’t know what to make of all of this? So confusing and unsettling.
I simply do not understand all the secrecy for adoptive families. I know that we’ve all said this before, but it makes no sense? If we know that matching has been completed, why no cut-off date even if referrals have not been sent yet?
Yes, I understand that we are a Western culture and do not/could not understand the culture differences… Although, it is the adoptive families that are willingly and lovingly accepting the LIFETIME commitment/responsibilities of these children, and yet, I feel we are somehow seen as unimportant to the overall process.
At this point, anything would be comforting… whether our LID 24Aug05 is in or not?
October 30th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
Several other agencies are now saying it will probably be next week before we see them.
A few are saying they hope that they are mailed out by next week.
No one seems to have an explanation.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
I cannot imagine what you August LID’ers are going through. This really is a bumpy ride of late.
P.s. - tgredthread, I know it doesn’t seem like it, but you have a great sense of humor to get you through!
October 30th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
Aaaaagh! I know that we have cultural differences, but it is not like we are a different species! I just feel like a person of ANY culture would want to have some insight into what is going on. Maybe I’m wrong and I am just overly anxious about the unknown. Like someone said before, I don’t think it is that we are impatient about the wait, just wish we knew what the wait was. I just feel badly for all of you August people. I hope this rumor turns out to be wrong and referalls come to you soon!!! And TA’s too!!!! And if not, PLEASE let this mean that this means things are about to speed up.
October 30th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
well I would have to say that I doubt there are any agencies that know anything at this point. really. I think they are probably wondering where the referrals (and remaining TAs) are. I would imagine that most of them are hoping they arrive at anytime…any day now. I would imagine that most agencies are fielding many many calls and emails from people. and have been for several days now.
whatever is going on I have a feeling it doesn’t concern cultural differences, guanxi with agencies, or matching more LIDs. I am afraid that what ever is going on we will never know and those of us waiting for something this time will just be left holding our child’s pictures and info or the info on the TAs wondering what in the heck took so long.
October 30th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
This is past the point of being ridiculous. I just want to scream. About the only thing I have managed to do today is troll the forums and the various china groups to see if anyone has heard the faintest whisper of news. I am a relatively patient person (I think) , but my patience went out the window a few days ago. I just want some news! Is a cut off date too much to ask for?
LID 8/26/05
October 30th, 2006 at 5:07 pm
My heart is aching for all of you “waiting” - it is very much like being in Labor… no? I sincerely hope you all find a little solace in knowing it does (and will) eventually happen!!! Really!
We are leaving tomorrow for Guiyang to get our sweetpea (FINALLY) and it almost seems surreal at this juncture. What an amazing ride it has been. And to think, the MOST AMAZING part is yet to come… Gotcha Day will be November 5th.
“HALLELUJAH!!!!!”
Good Luck to all you Augies - Hang in there.
The referrals have to be on the way soon!
LID 26JUL05
REF 26SEP06
October 30th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
In my notes, I see that there were only 11 referral batches in 2005. The one we are waiting on now will be number 11 for 2006. I don’t know if this means anything, but thought I’d put it out there.
LID 10/26/05 (was doing well with the wait up until this past week….sigh…)
October 30th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
oh my, oh my, oh my….
WHAT IS GOING ON??????????????
October 30th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
This is so cruel. I’m patient too, but this is ridiculous. This certainly doesn’t look good for any of us. I feel as if the rug has been pulled out from us again. We were told the matches were done. Why would they not send them, like every other time?
8/10/05
October 30th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
My heart goes out to those of you who are sooooo close. Our LID is Nov 29/05. Last year was spent wondering when and should we take vacation time. Now with all this wait we decided to just plan, and we have! We are planning a winter vacation and it feels good to have something in the NEAR future to look forward to. I don’t understand why no referrals for such a long time?
October 30th, 2006 at 5:52 pm
Well, this just reeks! I would be a nut case if I was a mid- late Aug. LIDer. I know this is very agonizing for all of you. I am reeling from this latest rumor.. I keep thinking January for us since we are early October, but, maybe it will be later.. icky thought, huh??
I just mailed our I600A and the paperwork for our HS update for USCIS about an hour ago to our agency. Now, we just need to have our fingerprints done for the state of GA. Hopefully, it won’t take 4 months to get our I171H back.. that would probably push me over the edge..
Claire
LID 10/10/05
CCAA- Please, please send out those TA’s and referrals!!
October 30th, 2006 at 5:55 pm
I have been dealing with crisis clients all day and just got to check again….this just makes the day complete!!!!!!
I am so crushed! I thought early that thinking Thursday the earliest was the pits and now it could be weeks! I feel awful…
And yet all I could think of was poor tgredthread– You have waited so long and been so close for so long. I knew this month was a maybe for us, but you have been waiting knowing you are in. This is too cruel. Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers…and everyone else who knew you were in. And to my fellow Aug 24 LIDs…hugs to all!
October 30th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
Heart and emotions going back into deep freeze.
(Just when I thought it was the season to thaw.)
Laureen
8/30 and clinging on to the hope that the delay might mean AOA.
October 30th, 2006 at 6:18 pm
why is it that I am “logged in” when I go to this thread but if I go to the next thread I am logged out and it won’t let me access that thread??? I have tried everything but I don’t want to do much more because I know we are supposed to be “gentle” with the system.
Thanks for any help….
October 30th, 2006 at 6:39 pm
saxncin,
have a wonderful trip. Safe journey and happy landings!
To those still waiting, we really feel for you. I’m so sorry for the pain this must be causing you.
JFKof3, you are always in my thoughts. really.
M
October 30th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
What a day. I’m so tired from staying up practically all night waiting for the site to change. Now I’m so extra tired from the emotional let down. On top of that I got my updated homestudy in the mail from my social agency today and guess what, they forgot to sign it. So, hopefully, after trading phone messages with the social agency, I will get a signed one soon. My stomach hurts.
Loraine
8-30-05–AOA AOA AOA and QUICKLY! I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE! (at least i’m trying to hard to believe)
October 30th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
You don’t suppose it was an “Intern” scandal, now, do you?
October 30th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
meetoo, you’re the best. I look forward to following your journey. I’m hoping to know something soon.
October 30th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Maybe our time change has affected the CCAA….only the shadow knows….maybe it is bad luck to have referrals come out near Halloween…Maybe the sky is falling and no one can find chicken little…It’s Monday night are you ready for some referrals???????Keep the faith!!!!!!!
October 30th, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Congratulations on your TA, justmamaw!
November 7th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
Saxncin- Good luck! We were also LID 7/25 but haven’t heard a thing about our TA. What size agency are you with and how many people traveling? I don’t know what’s up but it’s hard when you receive a picture of your daughter and can’t get her. This waiting it soooooooooooooo hard.