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Maybe. Maybe not.One agency is confirming that there is a package on the way to them, hopefully to arrive Thursday. Another agency confirms that they spoke with the CCAA last night and the CCAA says that referrals have not yet been mailed and they don’t know when they will be mailed. 
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October 31st, 2006 at 11:14 am
Looks like misinformation city again, huh??? Curiouser and curiouser… and more and more irritating…
I suspect the referrals and TAs will fall out of the sky again, I am hunkered down with a goodly supply of chocolate for the duration.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:18 am
The CCAA has lied to misinformed agencies before about referrals being mailed.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:21 am
I am SOOOO stumped by the need to misinform. Not sure whether the misunderstanding is due to cultural divide or whether the folks at the CCAA are just being quite perverse these days. As many have said, why on earth would it be a problem for us to know referrals had been mailed and what the cutoff is. Brainwobble imminent, I simply do not get it.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:22 am
I think it is time to pull out the magic 8 ball again! Sorry this has just gone on toooooo longggg! :)
October 31st, 2006 at 11:29 am
We spoke to our small multi-country agency today and they did not feel like this “delay” is unusual for October. They state that every October is later, due to the holiday earlier in the month. They do not seem concernedn that referrals haven’t shown up yet. Our LID is 9-9-05 and they believe we will be included in the next batch of referrals — let’s HOPE!
October 31st, 2006 at 11:29 am
A confirmation from DHL that a package is coming can’t be false. DHL doesn’t have any reason to “misinform”. I’m leaning toward the idea that CCAA won’t confirm referrals were sent, so they state they weren’t. Call it a lie if you need to.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:32 am
My smallish not China only agency also feels that this is ‘the norm’ for October. They said it has happened in past years due to the holiday. They feel that there will be two batches of referrals, one late this week and one sent out at the end of November. No actual dates.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:40 am
This morning I was reminded, yet again, of the frailty of the human condition. My bro called me with news that my cousin’s 17-y.o. son died in his sleep yesterday. OTOH, I think happy effing halloween, but even stronger than that is the giant wave of compassion I feel for my cousin and his family. it made me think about how the emotions of family and other connections are what is driving the huge emotional roller coaster here. How many of us have experienced losses that are so painful, but now this family is going through an experience I can only describe as “walking through water”, that sort of blinded but completely aware and in the moment experience that is gut-wrenching pain. We go through SO much in life and it amazes me that we continue to push on in the inevitable drive for life. sigh.
sorry for the gloom, even if there is some perverse sense of strength in it. capisce?
October 31st, 2006 at 11:48 am
CWS-
“Not sure whether the misunderstanding is due to cultural divide…”
If the misunderstanding is due to a “cultural divide”…this puppy is like the Grand Canyon!!!
:-)
Laureen
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
October 31st, 2006 at 11:51 am
I would really like to be a fly on the wall when the agencies “talk” with the CCAA. I guess they have to converse during our night because of the time zones - so who stays up that late and carries on a conversation without asking alot more details. I’ll bet they’ve been given alot more details than they’re handing out. I hate this feeling of being in the dark waiting for the glove to fall. Still praying for good news.
9/9/05
October 31st, 2006 at 11:51 am
CCAA may not have misinformed. Referrals may not have been mailed last night (if it was a U.S. agency). They could have mailed them at the end of the CCAA workday which would be early this morning U.S. time. Now if it was a European agency - depending when they spoke could have been the same thing. I’m trying to think positive today.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:58 am
pettrout, I am so sorry for your family’s loss, that is so incredibly sad. Peace and comfort to you all.
October 31st, 2006 at 12:00 pm
hi, I am absolutely puzzled and I don’t know what to believe any more.
Regarding the discussion about a ministry having already received the referrals, someone posted that she has called/spoken to the ministry and got the following info:
- they haven’t got any referrals yet
- last Friday it was already one week since the referrals left China (???????????)
- in the Web-site (????) it states cut-off date the 23rd.
I can only wonder (problably very naif questions):
first, have all the referrals been lost at the postoffice at the airport? ;-)
second, maybe the agencies can login in the CCAA web and see updated information much earlier that the rest of us, but they can not spread it to their families…
October 31st, 2006 at 12:04 pm
Dear Pettrout,
So sad to hear this news of such a young life cut short. It gives me a jolt of reality and perspective on everything.
Just wanted to reach out and send you and your family best wishes and strength.
Nadia
October 31st, 2006 at 12:08 pm
We bailed out of our China process early on. We saw the wait times going up and decided to go another route.
I STILL go to the RQ site EVERY day and see how you all are doing. I can’t imagine the pain, yes pain, and emotions you all are going through right now. I am hooked on this site and I don’t even have much of a stake here. Although, we have not requested our file be closed yet, so our $500 is still out there and maybe we will decide to pursue a China daughter one day.
Hang in there … Peace … and referrals come to you all!
From “Sunny” Seattle
-Kim
October 31st, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Pettrout~
So very sorry to hear of your family’s loss. Although we have all been going through a very difficult time, it is certainly not like experiencing the death of a loved one. Difficult times are often easier when shared just as this site has proven, so I am glad you shared so we all have the opporunity to lift you up.
October 31st, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Pettrout- how sad for you and your family. I’m so sorry.
October 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pm
Pettrout, your message took my breath away. What sad news….
October 31st, 2006 at 12:40 pm
Pettrout, I am so sorry for the loss in your family know that my thoughts are with you and your family.
To everyone else do you ever feel like your heads about to bust! I need some excedrin or maybe a drink!!!! Arg,… and I definetely think I need to change my name.
LID 03/06
October 31st, 2006 at 1:01 pm
Pettrout,
I am so sorry to hear of your family loss.
October 31st, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Pettrout,
Sending you hugs. My sister lost her oldest son a couple of months ago. It really put the adoption wait into perspective for me, and at least for a little while I just really didn’t care about it. Time has helped, but I always get that punched-in-the gut feeling when I realize he is gone.
I know the weight of the world in on your shoulders right now. I hope peace comes to you and your family soon.
clem
October 31st, 2006 at 2:08 pm
To everyone —
Thank you so much for your support! It really means a lot. I will pass on your condolences to my cousin and his family. I guess part of my post was about how we all re-gather strength and move on, as well as how some pain puts other pain into perspective — and most us have been there and back.
Thanks again.
PT
October 31st, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Pettrout-
My heart reaches out to you and your family. May you all find some peace and comfort during this very difficult time.
Meg
October 31st, 2006 at 4:38 pm
Dear Pettrout, I can’t imagine anything sadder or worse to bear. I do hope they eventually feel some comfort. I am so sorry. jill
October 31st, 2006 at 6:33 pm
Pettrout-
I would like to offer my sympathies and condolences to your family. There is nothing like losing a child. We lost our daughter at birth 3.5 yrs ago and I can’t imagine the pain of having a child for 17 yrs and then losing them so suddenly. Please know that I will be praying for your family in this time of need.
Claire
LID 10/10/05