September 7th Rumor
An agency in a European country has told their people that the cut-off is September 7th.
We don’t hear a whole lot from this agency so I’m not sure where to rate this one.
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November 28th, 2006 at 6:49 am
I have absolutely no comment to make on this and refuse to even contemplate it……………..
November 28th, 2006 at 6:51 am
September SEVENTH???
Ug
November 28th, 2006 at 6:59 am
I’ve been lurking here for some time but only just registered to post. The suggestion I’m going to make is made with respect for everything RQ endeavours to do for would-be adopters. However, I think that RQ should consider changing the purpose of this site and ditch the rumours and concentrate on offering a place for people to come and offer each other support. That already happens here but the rumors and predictions are destructive. They are always wrong and cause a great deal of upset. They get people’s hopes up only to smash them right down and they also cause a lot of fear such as the recent speculations about banning singles from adopting from China.
Long live the queen but let the rumors rest in peace.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:03 am
LunLun….I think that IS the purpose of this site…a place to record rumours. We just roll with the highs and lows. I think if people don’t like the ups and downs they tend to stay way from this site.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:08 am
I agree with suejay. I come here for the rumors, knowing they are rumors. RQ calls them rumors, that is the point of the site. Yes, there are wonderful people here and great information, but if you don’t want to know the rumors, I don’t understand why you would come here.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:24 am
LunLun-I think we choose RQ’s site because we just want to know SOMETHING!!! I guess it doesn’t matter if it is good news or bad news, we just want to know what is happening. It can be difficult at times, but I would rather know all of the possible scenarios than to have no idea what might happen.
I also think we do a wonderful job of helping each other through this long, and difficult process.
DOR-11/02
November 28th, 2006 at 7:24 am
I have done my best to tone down the good rumors, I’ve reminded people it’s only a rumor, I’ve even said I had my doubts about the All of September rumor. And with this one I’m trying to be honest that I don’t know how to rate it. I’m afraid it is right, but at this point I just don’t know.
What you don’t seem to get LunLun is that these rumors would be here whether this blog was here or not. The rumors were out there long before I started a blog. Rumors flew around on the various DTC groups and on APC and on the agency groups. And by the time they made it through the DTC groups they were often quite different than when they started (so, someone posts on the February group, and someone on the February group posts it to March, and then someone else on the March group posts it to April - and by the time it makes it to September it’s not the same as it started).
We do our best here to make sense of the rumors. If you don’t like the rumors then no one is forcing you to come to this site.
I do not create the rumors. I’m just trying to make sense of them. If I stopped today do you think there would be no rumors? That’s pretty silly. Maybe you are new to the adoption world and just don’t know any better?
November 28th, 2006 at 7:24 am
LunLun, I have to respectufully disagree with you. There are a number of sites out there whose sole purpose is to support one another. This is the site of the RQ and that is why we like it. I come here knowing that the RQ will have posted what she’s heard based upon the most reliable sources available to her at that time. It’s my choice to come here and I am so thankful for the wonderful service she offers us. Please continue as you are RQ - a great site to help us in our wait. I hope you don’t change a thing! There are a lot of wonderful people here and I’m so thankful you have started this site and give us a place to share this wait together.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:25 am
Hmmm … only 13 days. Just when one thought they might be getting faster..its like 2 months forward, one month back for the last couple of months (since june). Must bear that in mind in the next couple of months!
And to join in..this is a rumor site. A much needed and very valued rumor site. If you don’t want to go with the flow on it, best to stop off (or go straight to the forum to an appropriate discussion).
November 28th, 2006 at 7:27 am
LunLun,
Please see the top of the website. RQ’s mission statement is explicitily clear: “Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next”. I don’t think she could be clearer about the content of this site. IMHO if I don’t like a site, I find another. RQ don’t change a thing!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!
November 28th, 2006 at 7:28 am
It is hard to read the rumors sometimes, but Support Queen? Ugh. (Sounds like ladies undergarments ;-)
November 28th, 2006 at 7:29 am
Yo…we need to get back on topic here!!!!! This is about
SEPTEMBER 7TH CUT OFF DATE REMARKS. Please somebody, I’m dying here. Share the info guys.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:36 am
Although I don’t post often I read everything and have learned a lot through here. Not just through the rumors (and yes I realize they are rumors - both good and bad) but through the honesty as people travel this rollercoaster. And hopefully, we will soon be leaving the rollercoaster of waiting for a referral (LID 8/30/05) but I don’t think I will be able to leave this site. I have found that there are people here who will support and encourage each other no matter what stage of this process we are in and no matter if our frustration is with the referral rumor or getting our little one and ourselves through jet lag. So, thank you all and a special thanks to RQ for providing this forum for both information and support.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:37 am
Say it isn’t so!!!!! I can live with the 12th but the 7th just makes me down right sad!!!!!!!!!!
Waiting not so patiently in MN,
LID 10-21-05
November 28th, 2006 at 7:39 am
with a 9/9/05 LID not at all what I’d hope to wake up to this morning.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:40 am
LunLun - I”m not sure how you were directed to the site - or what type of information you were given about it, but most of us know that when we started reading here it was all about different rumors floating around that RQ would try to make thoughts about them and let others know what’s going on out there (rumors that are already out there!) There are many other sites that are for support only and this site I think is for 2 things — for those of us who do want to know rumors that are going around out there & those of us who support the ones that those rumors effect. I’m sooooo glad I found this site — I know when I get on here that everything has to be read w/ caution that it is a RUMOR until it’s proven TRUTH, but I have got some great information that was TRUE - most times before my agency ever gives it out if @ all!! — and I’ve read so many other things that have helped w/ our adoption totally off the rumor topics — so I for one am glad that this site is both rumors and support!!!
November 28th, 2006 at 7:42 am
cmbj…remember it is still only a rumor.
Fingers and toes crossed that is what it will stay!
November 28th, 2006 at 7:43 am
Lun lun and all,
This site is SO supportive. Complete strangers offer encouragment, prayers, laughs and kind advice all the time. The rumors keep me hopeful. I love sharing in everyone else’s good news. We all know what each other is goiong through and often our immediate friends and family do not get it. Do’t change a thing. I’d be lost without the rumors AND the support!
Oh and in reference to a ? from last night ..my LID was an error last year. We were first told 10-18 and then told it is actually 10-08. SO CCAA (or my agency) has made an error in the other direction too. Now, I just hope they don’t change it again:)
LID 10-08-06
November 28th, 2006 at 7:44 am
Oops..I meant LID 10-08-05!!! See how those mistakes can happen.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:45 am
Have any of you 9/9ers spoken with your agencies? Anything? Our agency gives out 0, zilch, no info., so this is my only source of information.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:45 am
Since we don’t know where to rate this one, I’m still believing for more. I haven’t given up hope that 9/12 and beyond will be included.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:45 am
A September 7th cut off is horrible. We have a 9/9/05 LID, and the kicker is the delay in travel due to CNY.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:45 am
Do you think the rollercoaster would be any easier without rumors, without information??? I don’t think so. In fact, with RQ, there are fewer rumors on the support group sites which makes it easier to avoid them if you choose to. Also, I used to have to search and search for information, but now with this site, it is here every day and we now know whatever there is to know. There are lots of different personalities out there, but I’m one who really appreciates this site. Thanks RQ!
November 28th, 2006 at 7:47 am
Lun Lun - the RQ is an adoptive mother who is waiting for her referral as well. She started this site so people could share rumours. There are lots of chat rooms out there for other support if that’s what you are looking for. This is the BEST site for china adoption on the net.
THANK YOU RQ for creating and keeping up this site. Bring on the rumours!!!!!!
Deb
http://www.bringinghomeolivia.blogspot.com
November 28th, 2006 at 7:49 am
LunLun - I”m not sure how you were directed to the site - or what type of information you were given about it, but most of us know that when we started reading here it was all about different rumors floating around that RQ would try to make thoughts about them and let others know what’s going on out there (rumors that are already out there!) There are many other sites that are for support only and this site I think is for 2 things — for those of us who do want to know rumors that are going around out there & those of us who support the ones that those rumors effect. I’m sooooo glad I found this site — I know when I get on here that everything has to be read w/ caution that it is a RUMOR until it’s proven TRUTH, but I have got some great information that was TRUE - most times before my agency ever gives it out if @ all!! — and I’ve read so many other things that have helped w/ our adoption totally off the rumor topics — so I for one am glad that this site is both rumors and support!!!
Now —- I’m ready to hear when these next referrals will show up —- LID 8/30/05 — and going NUTS this week waiting to hear some news!!!!!!
November 28th, 2006 at 7:49 am
Now back to our latest rumour!!!! September 7th cutoff - that’s our LID. We just made it
Deb
LID: Sep 7
http://www.bringinghomeolivia.blogspot.com
November 28th, 2006 at 7:52 am
Although we are a ways out, LID 03/15/06. I thought I would share my large china only agency’s thoughts. They have told us (email this morning) the wait is likely to increase to 20-24 months for us March LIDers. So far they hae always been right with the information they have given us.
Sorry for the news but I thought I should post.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:52 am
How did we go from such good rumors to such lousy ones? Sorry to all the September families who aren’t going to receive a referral this time around. With a 9/29 LID, it doesn’t look like we will get a referral next time either.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:56 am
Now I dare to remind you what happened the last months. First some wild and positive rumors which got everyone up into the skies, then something with a concrete cut off that - franklt spoken - sucks, and then the real cut off somewhere inbetween (but unfortunately closer to the bottom than the top). So in my opinion 09/09 or even 09/11 is still possible.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:59 am
I wonder if this agency has any LIDs after the 7th. September is supposed to be a light month - so I imagine this could be poss??
November 28th, 2006 at 8:00 am
This is still just a rumor. RQ doesn’t even know how to rate this one. I am still not too sure about ‘all of September’ but I do think it will go beyond Sept 7th.
Come on rumors!!! Get better!!!!
LID 9/29
November 28th, 2006 at 8:08 am
I so didn’t want to read this rumor this morning! I am really hoping that this agency just doesn’t have any LIDs after the 7th. Please let it be more days than the 7th CCAA!
November 28th, 2006 at 8:11 am
I refuse to believe it! Come on CCAA, surprise us this time!
November 28th, 2006 at 8:12 am
How foolish is that to ask the romour blog to refrain from rumours???
As for Sept 7… I’m disappointed. With an Oct 06 LID I didn’t think I’d care that much but damn, every time it falls short it’s more days left to match before it’s my turn! Debtomreece - I’m disappointed to hear what your agency said. My agency told me 18-20 months, but you’re a full six months ahead of us so… UGH.
N
November 28th, 2006 at 8:16 am
I wish I could add something from the Swedish agencies, but they all decide to keep quiet. They say they don’t ask the CCAA anything about cut off-dates etc, as they don’t want to offend them. Istead, they wait patiently along with all families to be. How boringly well behaved is that!
And those of us who don’t feel very patient any more keep visiting RQ:s site. What would I do without you all?
I have to admit I never got my hope up for a referral this time, but one can always dream. In my dreams, the next batch will reach mid September and include our lid - 14th.
November 28th, 2006 at 8:17 am
RQ,
Based on your polls would a Sept 7 LID cut off be delivering the roughly less, the same, or more than last month?
I know it is the # of referrals that counts not the # of days.
Ugh. Thanks, Loveherso
(p.s. only answer this if it is top of mind - don’t want to create any work for the queen : )
November 28th, 2006 at 8:20 am
As to rumors on this site, I’m a big girl, I know what I’ve gotten myself into. There is support here that is healthy and then there are unhealthy things associated with following rumors. But, dealing with those unhealthy things is my problem. I do thank RQ for providing a place where we can share our feelings and try to figure out what the heck is going on.
November 28th, 2006 at 8:21 am
Still laughing about the support queen sounding like an underwear brand.
November 28th, 2006 at 8:26 am
I come to this site FOR the rumors……the support I receive is just a BIG added bonus! RQ, you are doing a fine job…..DON’T change a thing!
November 28th, 2006 at 8:29 am
LunLun, you said: “However, I think that RQ should consider changing the purpose of this site and ditch the rumours and concentrate on offering a place for people to come and offer each other support.”. I think, we can do both and, actually, that is exactly what we do! ;). The forum is a place where I found cyberfriends and we are having fun and sometime crying together. That’s what supporting each other is all about.
RQ, you said: “We do our best here to make sense of the rumors.”… I say: “We do our best here to have a sense of humor (too).”. :)!
Bye all.
Cellule
November 28th, 2006 at 8:31 am
Don’t despair everyone - last month I was the one who first posted the 23rd cut off rumor which is exactly what our agency said. Well, come to find out, that was my agency’s August group’s LID and that is what they (my agency) meant by “they made it to the 23rd.” So, this very well could be this agency’s LID for September and thus the Sept. 7 rumor. Don’t want to create false hope, but I think it’s a valid point to consider.
November 28th, 2006 at 8:34 am
Ok, let’s say it’s the 7th (and yeah, maybe 8th, maybe 9th or even 10th, but for now let’s say 7th).
Based on that, and based on similar # being referred in next batch, what does that place the cut-off at for the next batch? (Does that get us through September?)
And hey RQ, I’m with the folks asking for a November poll. I think enough of us are on this site now (especially as this is our LID anniversary month) to make it telling. Would be good to see how the Nov dates are clumped, and get some idea of numbers, instead of just this vague sense of the ‘monster’ month.
Lunlun, I don’t come to your house, where you’re sitting with others around the table chatting, and tell you what you ought to be talking about, and what everyone really needs. If YOU need more support, and it sounds from your request as if you do, it’s okay to say so, and to seek it out from appropriate places (such as DTC support groups and counselling services). But don’t assume that everyone else shares those needs or that all sites ought to be set up to serve them.
November 28th, 2006 at 8:39 am
But when are we going to SEE the referrals?
LID 8/26/05
November 28th, 2006 at 8:43 am
Hi to all. This wasn’t the news I expected this morning! I couldn’t sleep at all last night. I kept tossing and turning and hoping we’d here all of September. RQ-this site is so great. The support here is like no other. Keep up the great work. It means so much to all of us.
Jennifer
LID 9/26/05
November 28th, 2006 at 8:44 am
ADE, that is what I want to know as well. WHEN???
LID 8/26/05
November 28th, 2006 at 8:45 am
LunLun Says:
November 26th, 2006 at 2:42 am
Please can we leave ladybug (and quilt square) discussions to the DTC boards!
LunLun~ I remember thinking ouch! when I read this comment. Now you’re looking to change the purpose of this site to a support site?
I understand that at times the rumours can seem destructive - but hearing something…anything still makes you feel some measure of control. My agency is quiet most of the time to the point of distraction - it is my only complaint about them. I understand their reasons for not speculating - but this site provides a sense of community. I have given support and felt supported on my down days.
I belong to other groups where the quilt square, ladybug and sock swaps in full swing. I also belong to a group where everything seems like it is an argument. Most have become a bit boring but this one is just right (for me).
Jo-Anne
November 28th, 2006 at 8:49 am
I honestly thought that I would be able to wait patiently and not get upset about the wait, because however long the adoption takes, it’s a sure thing that I’m going to be a mommy. However, I am so wrapped up in how long it’s taking, this is TORTURE! Please hurry CCAA please!!
Note to RQ: Without you I’d have virtually no information, good or bad, thank God for this site.
Sue, 05/11/06
November 28th, 2006 at 8:50 am
If it is in fact a cut-off date of 9/7 (which makes me very sad with an LID of 9/13) do you think we can expect another batch of referrals before the end of the year?
November 28th, 2006 at 8:57 am
Bring on more rumors… and I would LOVE to see some about when we’ll be getting these next referrals!!!
November 28th, 2006 at 9:06 am
Good morning all.
Wow - this latest rumour sucks. Really sucks.
I have to write that I understand where LunLun is coming from, and I’m not sure it’s very nice (sorry folks) to label her (his?) suggestion “silly” or “foolish”, particularly where she (he?) seems to be posting with the best of intentions.
I don’t want you to ask me to leave!, because I am addicted to the site, unfortunately, but I do agree that it can be destructive to a person’s psyche to ride the rumour waves. Some people are able to essentially let the waves wash over them, but not everyone is like that. Yes, I know the advice is to simply stay away if we can’t handle it, but it’s really tough to avoid checking in. Quite frankly, I am a much happier person when I don’t have Internet access for a few days. The site - and the faint hope to finally find positive good news - really is addictive.
Yes, I know this is a site for rumours, but don’t we all understand, at least a little bit, LunLun’s feelings?!
Jackie
LID May 2006
November 28th, 2006 at 9:08 am
Sept 7 is horrible, just horrible. I don’t even want to go there with this today. It may be 2008 before we even get a referral at this rate.
Just can’t take anymore of this slow down.
LID 12/20/05
November 28th, 2006 at 9:13 am
Lets assume the September 7th cut-off is correct, and that the Referral Date is today. That means 13 days’ worth of LIDs were cleared off in the 26 days since the last Referrals on November 2nd. That means a ratio of 2.00 days per LID, which is an improvement from the 2.375 last month and 2.30 average of the last 5 months.
As I see it, for our LID of Feb 7/06, this would advance the date we should expect our referral from mid December/07 to late September/07.
I know that I would be disappointed if I had a LID of September 8/05, and would therefore just miss this cut-off, but for all the rest of us who had no reasonable chance of making this batch of Referrals, a September 7 date announced today would be exceptionally good news.
November 28th, 2006 at 9:14 am
ADE and nicurn-
May I join your band wagon in yelling, “When???” Throw us Auggie doggies a bone, for goodness sake!
Newfiedeb- An early congrats on potentially making the cut!
Vtmama- LMAO. Thanks for the “brief” post of humor. It caught me “undawear”.
Finally, folks this is it.. the place to be. Rumors come and go; they are bad and good, but we all remain here for support. No matter WHAT the cutoff date is, SOMEBODY is going to be upset about “just missing it”. Ask NOvary from last June’s cut off. Ask TG from September’s cut off.
I missed the last batch by 4 days last month and I have to echo what TG posted on an earlier blog. There IS a deep sense of peace in knowing that you are next. It has been taking the CCAA ~3 months to get through a month’s worth of LID. While the possibility of a speed up remains in the back of everyone’s mind, I think we should focus more on the support and information that makes this site different from any other.
JMHO.
Laureen
LID 8/30/05
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
November 28th, 2006 at 9:18 am
ugh. That’s only what, 9 working days? Maybe this rumor sorce (agency person) is just feeling sadistic today. I’m still hoping for more…
Michelle LID 4/06
November 28th, 2006 at 9:18 am
If accurate, this latest rumor means we will miss this month’s referrals by one day (LID 9/08/05). Trying to keep from becoming too discouraged here, but as for many others, my son and daughter-in-law - and the rest of our family - have been chasing this dream for well over two years. We are so ready for our Kayli and would be very disappointed if we have to wait until after CNY to travel (we are going with them to China). But we keep the faith, knowing it will be soon.
November 28th, 2006 at 9:18 am
I have to jump in for LunLun here - everyone has been very gentle (but quick) in reminding her about the purpose of the site and that while it does report rumors, it’s still a place for supporting each other, agreed. I, too, come here for the rumors, however, her statements clearly show that she’s frustrated and has gotten to the point where she can’t just sit and view the site any longer, but felt the need to reach out to someone. I’m sure she had no intention of targeting anyone specifically. She’s obviously looking for additional support that she can’t find anywhere else and everyone on the site chatting seems so nice, yet no one has asked her what her situation is in order to try and help…. LunLun please tell us so we can support you as well.
November 28th, 2006 at 9:20 am
I’m always surprised by the replies people give when someone dares to challenge the status quo. This site is full of information beyond the rumors, and is very valuable to a lot of people, and I visit every day. Multiple times. Shouldn’t it be ok for someone to come here with a nonconforming thought once in awhile? If nothing else, it could result in a wonderful and intelligent conversation…
Hearing so many say “if you don’t like it, don’t come here” sounds kind of juvenile when it’s full grown adults who are waiting to become parents ourselves!!
There is still a lot we can learn from each other…even from those who have different views. Heck, we could also use a few conversation topics since it’s been so quiet around here.
Have a great day all, I just spent 5+ hours in a Seattle traffic jam. Time for bed.
PJ
November 28th, 2006 at 9:22 am
It may not be what I want to hear. It may not turn out to be accurate, but it is all that I am hearing. Almost everytime RQ has had the information correct before ANY of the US agencies have had it. I’m grateful to be in the know even if it’s just a few days ahead. I’d hate to be left in the dark until the last minute.
9/9/05
November 28th, 2006 at 9:22 am
I posted and it didn’t show up?
November 28th, 2006 at 9:24 am
I could just cry. I keep reading the wait to go higher and higher. This really stinks. We are putting our careers on hold, good thing I said lets go on a vacation…I refuse to keep everything else on hold. I am beyond frustrated…
LID 11/9/05
November 28th, 2006 at 9:27 am
Sept. 7: well, that’s at least 13 days of referral. Half a month is a decent step forward.
After referral week hubub dies down, I’d like to second (third, fourth) the requests for a November LID day-by-day poll: lots of us are regularly checking this site now (especially as it’s our LID anniversary month) so results would be telling: at the very least, we’d get a rough picture to replace the vague year-long rumblings of how this month is a monster. I’d love to see how Nov LID dates are clumped, and to get some rough sense of these numbers. (Or maybe there was such a poll & I missed it?)
November 28th, 2006 at 9:32 am
WileyZmuse - exactly what I just wrote but it didn’t post - I said that it appears that LunLun is desperately in need of support right now because she said that she’d been viewing but not registered to talk until now. Something obviously has put her over the top and since everyone seems so nice on this site, she felt comfortable enough to reach out. No one has asked her situation so that she too, can be supported like everyone else. LunLun please tell us what your situation is…
November 28th, 2006 at 9:33 am
I just typed a post reply to WileyZmuse and it didn’t post again? RQ?
November 28th, 2006 at 9:35 am
Number Cruncher — Here’s all I know… If the Sept 7th cut off is correct, that means our referral will come at least a month later than I’d expected (so dangerous those expectations).
If they only get to the 7th this month, I doubt they’ll get all the way to the 29th next month, which means a February referral for us.
Plus, who knows what will happen after this month, btw, since we’ll be into the new year for the CCAA. And, of course, don’t forget the upcoming Chinese New Year too. Actually, we’ll probably be lucky to see a referral in Feb.
Blah. Sorry, don’t mean to be all negative, though I do think I’m being realistic.
Back to waiting.
LID 9/29/05
November 28th, 2006 at 9:35 am
Numbers Cruncher: if you’re projecting out the 2.00 rate in order to reach the Sept 07 referral date, keep in mind that Sept is an abnormally light month for dossiers, and the 2.00 rate is unlikely to continue as dossier-heavy Oct and Nov 05 LIDs are worked through.
thanks for all your number-crunching, though, here and previously. I always check out yr stuff.
November 28th, 2006 at 9:35 am
threebluesteps: That is a real true, the past month with the same days we were happy, why we aren’t right now?
Kisses!
November 28th, 2006 at 9:37 am
toChina4Sara,
Thank you for pointing out last month’s rumor of 8/23 as the cut off. I remembered that and am hoping it is the same situation for this month.
Pam LID 9/9
November 28th, 2006 at 9:38 am
Coming to RQ is my way of being efficient. I could visit a ton of other sites to try to get info, or I can go to just one. This one. It’s not RQ’s fault if the news is bad; she also can’t take credit if it is good. RQ doesn’t create the rumors; she just reports them.
Despite Numbercruncher’s analysis, I find this particular rumor pretty darn crappy. However, I remember last month when we were all stressing about the 23rd and 24th, and they ended up going to the 25th. Personally, I don’t think any of these agency people know anything about the cut-off date.
As far as when they will show up, I’m going with in the air on Thursday or Friday, but the agencies won’t know for sure until they show up on Monday. I think the CCAA has control issues.
:)
clem LID 09feb06
November 28th, 2006 at 9:44 am
I was so hoping we would have had better news on referrals this time. I want to see my babies face, so bring on those referrals now, I have waited long enough. It has been 2 1/2 years since we started down this road. LID 8.30.05
I agree with a previous post that with the news of the 7th being from only one agency, I am still hopefull that this agency only has LIDs for the 7th and the cutoff will actually be later.
sarajane- I am here for you girl!
November 28th, 2006 at 9:47 am
threebluesteps: Thanks for the comments. Can you tell me how you know that “Sept is an abnormally light month for dossiers”, and that Oct 05 and Nov 05 are “dossier-heavy”? I thought that information was a closely guarded secret, but if information about the number of LIDs per month is available, we would be able to predict future Referral Dates with much greater precision.
November 28th, 2006 at 9:55 am
Number Cruncher - I thought this (Sept significantly lighter) was a generally understood fact. I would LOVE to be wrong on this one, and possibly am. Check with the Queen.
And, ah, I love how you’re still using words like “predict” and “precision”.
(hey barkeep, i want what that dude’s having) ;)
November 28th, 2006 at 9:55 am
I Guess that speed up that we have heard about for months was nothing but a dream….this is so depressing!!!!!!
November 28th, 2006 at 9:56 am
Last month the CCAA referred 16 days of LID - August 9 through August 25. This included approximately 213 RQ families, based on her polls.
When you get right down to it, the number of days doesn’t really mean anything, it’s the number of referrals.
So assuming that RQ’s audience shares relatively proportional spread of LIDs, that would mean to keep at the same ’speed’ as last month, the CCAA would need to get to September 9th. I liked it better when they were saying AOS, but I guess we’ll see how the facts play out.
Sept 7th isn’t wildly out of range - it would include 195 RQ families. But I’m still hoping this rumor is wrong.
RQ, can you get any more info on this Sept. 7th rumor — is there any chance this agency only has LIDs up to Sept 7th?
wheresmygirl
PS - RQ don’t change a thing, I love this site!
November 28th, 2006 at 9:57 am
I love that numbercruncher - feed them all the info we have and lets get some future predictions baby!!
November 28th, 2006 at 9:58 am
Number cruncher, check out RQ’s polls, which give a good idea of what each month looks like in terms of LIDs. Unfortunately it’s difficult to predict future referral dates with much precision because the CCAA is not consistent with the number of referrals they are making each month. Aggghhhh! Fingers crossed for all the Sept LID families that we hear good news (or at least some news) soon.
November 28th, 2006 at 9:59 am
Vtmama,
Where are you? Didn’t know if you were close by. Our LID is Aug 31st. We’re in Orange county.
November 28th, 2006 at 10:04 am
A couple of thoughts:
I agree with a post earlier that LunLun was just making a suggestion. It was made with the utmost respect and said very kindly. To respond abruptly or rudely is unnecessary.
Second, to figure you missed the cutoff or made the cutoff by one, difficult for RQ to rate, rumor seems to me to be jumping the gun a bit. Every month we get good and bad rumors right up until we hear the real thing. We come here expecting to hear rumors and they are JUST THAT-RUMORS. They are not hard fact and we can get discouraged or excited depending on what we were expecting or hoping for, but to count on the rumor and take it completely to heart, makes no logical sense. With a 9/29 LID there is a chance we could be in this month, but as things have been going, it will most likely not be until next month, or even the following month. That’s just the way it is. I will be disappointed and the 9/7 rumor is discouraging, but the agencies prove to be pretty consistantly wrong most of the time w/ these rumors (Except TATIUR), so lets just ride the coaster and as we go down the hill, expect you have a few more hills ahead you you yet, before the ride is over.
Meg
November 28th, 2006 at 10:09 am
Hi,
This is my first post although I have been following along for a while. First, VT Mama - Love you post about the support queen! Had a much needed laugh over that one. I am in VT too, Chittenden County!
I am DTC this week so hearing that an agency has told their 3/06 clients to expect a 20-24 month wait was hard to hear. As I won’t be LID until December 06. I am just hoping for a speed up at some point and have decided I will stay on the roller coaster whether I wait 12 months or 3 years! I just couldn’t be anywhere else!
RQ, I love this site! Although I do have supportive freinds and family, no one understands better than all of you! There are several sites I am involved in and this by far is the best! You have never given the impression that any of this information is fact. That is good enough for me. I wish this was available when I adopted my first baby girl in 2002. I look forward to checking this site several times a day! Don’t change a thing.
I hope everyone close to referral, gets good information soon! I love seeing all the new baby faces!
DTC (in the next few days!)
November 28th, 2006 at 10:09 am
Ladies and gents, it has been an experience waiting with you all. My wife and I decided it is time to pack it in. Many things have changed in our lives since we started this odysey almost three years ago. We are no longer sure this is the right thing for us to do. We have two beautiful children and know that if we arent 100% comitted to raising another child then it is not fair to bring her into our household. We may feel pain when we see a young girl of Chinese descent with her mommy and daddy but we must all live with our decisions. We wish you all the best and hope that your experience makes you stronger and that you will love your child with all of your heart. Every child needs that. I am not a religious kind of guy but God bless you all. JTR
November 28th, 2006 at 10:10 am
Okay
Just a couple of comments. I submitted them already, but they didn’t post.
Two thoughts: Just b/c LumLum had an opinion, which was said very respectfully and kindly, that differs from our own, let’s not jump all over him/her. Let’s be kind and if our opinion differs, lets post it kindly.
Second, we post all the time that we are on a rollercoaster ride. The 9/7 rumor is JUST THAT, A RUMOR, not a fact. When we get about 25 days out from the last referrals we all look for rumors, and get excited w/ good ones and totally depressed w/ bad ones. But we have to remember, the agencies we get these from are historically wrong most of the time (except TATIUR). So if you want to ride the coaster, expect to go up and down several hills before the ride is over, because that’s just how this works. We all know that and even tho’ it’s frustrating, it is no surprise. So, try to take heart and remember, this is just a rumor from one agency that RQ is not even that familiar with. She is not even sure how to rate the rumor, so let’s take a big breath and wait for the coaster to start up the next hill. Maybe we will get luck and the ride this month will end at the TOP of a hill.
Meg
LID 9/29
November 28th, 2006 at 10:15 am
I’ve just been looking at the poll results from RQ’s LID polls. (Remember, the farther away the date, the less acurate) but I’m not so sure about September being unusually light. It looks like it is unusually “clumped”. There is a week later in the month that looks light until you get to the monster day of the 29th. Plus, if you add in the large remaining August days of the 26th, 30th and 31st, that really raises the number of LID families hoping to be included with this “September batch”. We know that the CCAA has to go by the number of paper ready babies, not the number of calendar days, so, as much as I HATE the lack of a speed up, Sep. 7 looks like it is more realistic than AOS. The middle part of Sep. is really quite heavy. One more point, October is thought to be a huge month, but if you average it out, with the first week being “empty” and very few really big days throughout the month, it isn’t THAT much bigger than September. I believe RQ estimates that her polls represent about 25% of actual LID’s, right? OK, that’s all the math I want to handle today…getting ready to fly away to visit the two grandchildren I have now, makes waiting for the next one just a little easier!
November 28th, 2006 at 10:22 am
sarajane we share out LID! I know what you mean about putting life on hold. My jusband keeps saying how many more last vacations without Rory? This wait is at lease triple what we had thought when we handed over our Dossier 15 months ago. I WANT MY BABY!!
November 28th, 2006 at 10:23 am
number cruncher
I think that ( correct me if I am wrong) we get that Sept was a light month by the polls RQ has taken in the past. It has reflected fewer LID’s in Sept and a TON in Oct and Nov. They are not exact of course but should reflect an idea of these months.
November 28th, 2006 at 10:28 am
number cruncher,
I’m really excited to see what you come up with after looking at RQ’s polls.
November 28th, 2006 at 10:29 am
w8n4her, thank you for sharing that with us, and for walking with us this far.
November 28th, 2006 at 10:31 am
LunLun, you said: “However, I think that RQ should consider changing the purpose of this site and ditch the rumours and concentrate on offering a place for people to come and offer each other support.”. I think, we can do both and, actually, that is exactly what we do! ;). The forum is a place where I find cyberfriends and we are having fun and sometime crying together. That’s what supporting each other is all about.
RQ, you said: “We do our best here to make sense of the rumors.”… I say: “We do our best here to have a sense of humor (too).”. :)!
Bye all.
Cellule
November 28th, 2006 at 10:33 am
LunLun, you said: “However, I think that RQ should consider changing the purpose of this site and ditch the rumours and concentrate on offering a place for people to come and offer each other support.”. I think, we can do both and, actually, that is exactly what we do! ;). The forum is a place where I found cyberfriends and we are having fun and sometime crying together. That’s what supporting each other is all about.
RQ, you said: “We do our best here to make sense of the rumors.”… I say: “We do our best here to have a sense of humor (too).”. :)!
Bye all.
Cellule
November 28th, 2006 at 10:34 am
w8n4her-
So sorry to hear about your decision. I am sure it was a heart-wrenching and soul-searching one. Thank you for the time you have spent with us and for your explanation. We all wish you and your wife peace in your decision.
Laureen
November 28th, 2006 at 10:40 am
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and try to relax. We are all on edge right now. The “unknowing” part of this process is tough for all of us to deal with. I check this site a hundred times a day looking for positive rumors. Sometimes they are positive, sometimes they are not. All RQ is doing is reporting what is out there in the world of Chinese Adoption. Now, back to taking my deep breaths………
9-5-05 LID (hoping to make the cut)
November 28th, 2006 at 10:55 am
Bea from Sweden,
your name sound Spanish and I wonder if you are in the same situation than me: Spanish and running the adoption proccess from Sweden were I live.
If so maybe we could be in contact. My e-address at home is:
tom.karlson@home.se
Sorry to the rest of you for taking this private issue here… but I didn’t see any other way…
I want to think that the “7th september” rumor is not a bad rumor but a good one… As long as we can still predic and there are not less referrals than last month I considered good!
Of course a disappointment after the “all september” rumor but still within what it was expected.
Feeling sorry for the september people who dreamed with referral this week and may have to wait one more month.
November 28th, 2006 at 10:57 am
I feel the tears welling up behind my eyes after reading this September 7th rumor.
With our LID so far out I feel selfish but I “knew” deep in my heart that things were going to stick at 14-15 months.
I have been being good…reading parenting books, studying Chinese history, supporting local Chinese arts, sharing my gathered info on China.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE give us a good sign! Sometimes it is so hard to keep the positive thoughts flowing. I guess I’m just having a bad day today. :(
On the flip side…8 days until my sister has her baby, Yeah!!!!!!!!! If you read my previous post I’ll let everyone know if she has a boy. Maybe that will be the good sign.
LID May 10, 2006
November 28th, 2006 at 11:00 am
you know what’s so funny is that if we go back into the RQ archives and look at posts around “this time” of each referral period…
it’s like deja vu.
hmmm i think I may have said this before at some point… LOL
November 28th, 2006 at 11:04 am
September 7th!!!!!!! WTF?????!!!! @#$%$%^^&&**(*&^%^%$%%^&*(*()!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, I feel a little tiny bit better now.
Won’t even comment on Lun’s Lun’s “first time” post. OK, I will. Its the RUMOR Queen!!! Do you want McDonald’s to stop serving hamburgers?? Shell Oil to stop selling gas??? This is by far the most informative, kind and supporting site on the net. I love my yahoo DTC group but you will never get this level of discussion on them. They serve a different purpose and that’s OK.
Bring on the rumors and of course the referrals whatever they may be.
LID 2/13/06 and frustrated as heck!!! (I’ll feel better tomorrow I’m sure but today I’m having a tantrum)
November 28th, 2006 at 11:05 am
tg - in case you haven’t already, check our agencies webpage. I think your CA is completed. Not sure what group you are. No TA for us today.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:07 am
After reading Sept 7th, then, after hyper-ventilating, I hope a chuckle is uplifting. (To bring your lows up higher? In purple? Little spandex?) It’s cry or laugh - sincerely, no disrespect intended. With a distant LID 4/10/06, it’s all I can do somedays. I feel for those with A/S LIDs. We’re all here for you and you’re getting closer every day. Keep the analysis rollin’. (Hello fellow Grnmtn’ers. We’re in Essex!)
w8n4her - best wishes to you and yours.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:07 am
I think we are getting nauseated and need some dramamine. I know I sure am. Please send a some great new soon.
w8n4her, you made an very adult deciscion. I wish you and your family the very best.
What about the February referrals? We have a friend waiting on the good news.
I would love to do a NOV lid poll as well.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:11 am
This coaster is making me feel a little queasy… I think I may need the air sickness bag… or maybe I just had too much coffee - either way, I’m NOT liking this rumor.
I know that there is a great deal of speculation that Dec 05 LIDS may wait 24 months for a referral… does that mean that people expect the next (3) months & 5 days of LIDS between Aug 26, 05 and December TBA, 05 to take 12 months to refer? That means that people are expecting it to take approximately 3 1/2 months each to refer August/September, October & November 05?…. that just seems a little drawn out to me. I for one, refuse to believe that it will take this long.. I’m still feeling like our LID 12/14/05 will get our referral by May or June at the latest - a girl can hope, right?
w8n4her -
It made me so sad to read your post… I’m so sorry that you won’t continue this journey but understand how grueling this wait & uncertainty can be. Your family is in my thoughts and prayers - take care.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:13 am
This is really a horrible rumor.
My first thought when I read it was “I give up”. Of course I don’t but that was sort of the feeling I had.
It is ever so discouraging.
Also…while I agree that this is a rumor site and that is why most people come here….I think we should give Lun Lun a group hug. I think she likely made her suggestion out of extreme frustration and disappointment.
She like the rest of us will likely be back to the rumor site…hard as it may be sometimes. It is human nature to want to hear something…and to hope.
NOW I REALLY WISH I HADN’T TOLD DH ABOUT THE ALL OF SEPTEMBER RUMOR. I think he was starting to believe it might be possible. Now he is upset. Bummer Bummer Bummer.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:14 am
leia-
our group wasn’t the one who received their CA today…but I’m guessing/hoping we should tomorrow. (we are in the first group listed in the next ‘paragraph’)
I’m sorry to hear that you didn’t get your TA yet. I really really hope they get the remaining ones in over the next couple days as was posted. I’d hate to see a repeat of last month. We’re pulling for everybody. Do let us know when you get it! :)
November 28th, 2006 at 11:16 am
tg - Oops, sorry ’bout that. I am sure our TA is on the way! Maybe tomorrow along with referrals. Sure hope so!
November 28th, 2006 at 11:17 am
w8n4her~ I am sure that this decision took a lot of time, soul searching, tears and a leap of faith. I am happy that you were able to make a decision that is right for your family. There have been times in this that we have had a similar talk, our reasons werer that this is sooo hard to do-wait. WIth no timeline to guide us along the way.
Take care, enjoy your children~
Wearewaiting
November 28th, 2006 at 11:18 am
I have to agree with the people who are posting that September is not really that much lighter than Oct & Nov. I know that the further out you go the less accurate the polls are but if you look at the current poll there 305 LID for Sept, and 397 for November with October falling around the middle of the 2. So really less than 100 LIDs separate September from November and if you add the last couple large days of August- there is little difference between the 3 months. So hopefully even September 7 represents an increase in referrals (approx 200 RQ families over the previous 150 RQ families) That’s my story and for my sanity’s sake I am sticking to it -LOL (but still secretly hoping for AOS or at least Sept 15)
Christine
11/22/05
November 28th, 2006 at 11:18 am
no need to be sorry!
I’m still a bit in shock that they’re hoping to get everyone out by the end of next week. whoa.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:19 am
I could be wrong but under CCAA Updates & Referrals (on top right column) in 2005 PLACED 11/29/05, 12/07/05 and 12/30/05. I am hoping that PLACED means referrals came in.
Maybe, just maybe we can see an extra batch of referrals come in before 2007 rings in. Not trying to give anyone false hope but if Dec. starts the new year for CCAA maybe they will double up.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Just chiming in…RumorQueen you rock and I see no reason to change. We can keep up with the rumors and be supportive of each other–the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:24 am
Hi again from Mallorca…. here 17.25 pm and We got no news…
Laureen-Mom2Isabel: you speak very well spanish…. We take a look into your web page…. We like too much !!!
Hi Lluis and Silvia from Barcelona: the 7th is good for us…. but we want more !!!
RQ don’t change a thing!!! …. and thank you very much for all your help…. in Spain all the people always visit your web !!!
We love this site! …. and We need you !!!
We haven’t given up hope that 9/12 and beyond will be included…. we believe…. we believe… we believe…
From Mallorca. LID 09.07.05. (hoping to make the cut)
November 28th, 2006 at 11:28 am
waitingforoliviaFL:
We have the same LID 12/14/05. e-mail me 2 ramfam@comcast.net
November 28th, 2006 at 11:30 am
Some of you have posted that you have been on this journey for 3 years. Why has it been so long?? We’re at 15 months wait, right? Am I correct to assume, you spent alot of time reaching the decision to adopt, then paperchasing, and finally getting to this point (and still waiting).
My LID is 10/18/06. Waiting over 2 years is not what I bargained for. I’m feeling very frustrated, and sad.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:41 am
I can only speak for myself, we felt we were going to adopt in February 2005, started the process and first homestudy in June 2005, DTC on November 29, 2005 and LID 12/14/05. Obviously we are still waiting. So far it’s been almost 17 months and it doesn’t look like we will be getting our referral until after 2007. When we started in June of 05′ the wait was 6 months!! Imagine how we feel. Each month instead of getting closer to our referral, it feels like we are moving further away!
November 28th, 2006 at 11:45 am
Let’s keep in mind that September 7th was a good solid possibility compared to the number of referrals that have been sent recently. With a 10/26/05 LID, we’ve been estimating to receive a referral at the end of February/beginning of March 2007 for 3 months now. With the past three months of referral batches, we’re still on track for that timeline. It’s “fairly” realistic and my hopes aren’t crushed each month. I rode the roller coaster most of the year, and like many of you, don’t want to go downhill anymore. If we get a referral earlier than expected - Hallelujah! My thinking is that this batch will go through 9/7, next batch through 9/29, next batch through 10/21, next batch through 11/1. With our LID, we are only 3 referral batches away from this one!! Christmas will be here before you know it and once the new year starts, we’ll be only weeks away! Have faith and keep your chins up!! :)
November 28th, 2006 at 11:49 am
dcm1231,
I believe that it takes longer to even get DTC for our European friends. It took us 6 months in the U.S. so I have nothing to grumble about…..although, I still do on occasion! =)
November 28th, 2006 at 11:52 am
Yes it looks like the wait is going to be two years for those with LID of 2006. I said this 5 months ago and thought I was being overly pessimistic. Now it looks like there is no other way it will be shorter than that!
RQ…if the referral dates is September 7th that is only 13 days…which represents a even greater SLOW DOWN from the last few monthsl
Say it isn’t so.
What is the CCAA thinking???? Why don’t they limit dossiers it they think the wait is just going to go on and on and on and on?
It makes so little sense and is really sort of nasty to take people in with the ideas that they are waiting one year and have it turn into two years or three.
In addition people are paying money to agencies with the thought that they will be completing their adoption within a reasonable time.
Of course the money is extremely insignificant when weighed against the emotional costs.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:52 am
Hang in there everyone the Sept 7th is from someone we don’t hear much from…LunLun I think he/she may be stressed beyond belief and reaching out like someone said? This Thanksgiving I lost an uncle that was my hero suddenly…I shared the joy of bringing Emily home with him daily, I am so stressed and was praying for ALL of Sept….peace everyone.
Lid 5/15/06 hoping my dhs parents live long enough to meet Emily…:( and I am 38.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:53 am
dcm1231 -
I think the wait before paperchasing varies by country. Some of the Dutch or Swedish posts (can’t remember which country, maybe both), appear to have alot of hoops to jump through before they can submit paperwork to China and have been going through this process a couple years before submitting. As a single, I started back in April trying to find a slot with an agency. After half a year I am only now being able to begin paperchasing. Being in the Chicago area, our USCIS office is taking 3 mos to process the paperwork so by the time I actually become DTC I’ll have already invested a good year into the wait, and then I get to the back of a long line. I guess if the wait gets to 2 years, it will be a 3 year total process for me, possibly longer if things don’t speed up. I think my future child is definitely worth the wait so I am in this for the long haul, however long it takes. I’m also optimistic that the wait once you are LID will not get longer than 2 years.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:53 am
Our plan, when the wait was 6-8 months, was to bring home Lily, wait the required 6 months and then start the process again (right about now) for a mei mei. I have 3 sisters and can’t imagine my life without them. What makes me sad is that Lily is not home, and it’s too hard to think of waiting so long for a little sister. Right now, I just want to see and hold my daughter Lily Grace!
Amy
LID 8/30/05
November 28th, 2006 at 11:55 am
DCM1231- we made the decision to adopt from China is April 03. Went to meet with our agency, only to find out that both parents must be 30. (my husband is 10 years older than me). They told us we could start our paperwork in April 2005. I turned 30 on oct 05 and we have a 11/5/05 LID. Sooooooooo…if we don’t see a referral till April 07 (which is likely) then we will be at a 4 year wait.
Our agency only has on LID for Sept. so I just wonder if the 7th comment is for an agency in the same situation. As we have learned in the past months, ANYTHING can happen.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:56 am
We are at almost 36 months now. I am figuring that from the time that we first applied to our agency to now.
Our LID is 09-16-05, we are getting so close now.
I spoke to our agency yesterday, said they wouldn’t doubt to see alot of Sept included this time and were very positive.
I mostly view posts here and read the rumors but I don’t post very often. . . .DCM . . .don’t feel frustrated or sad, you are in the process of doing something very special and important.
Both the United Nations and UNICEF both agree that there are 143 million orphans in the world. Thats equals to 1/2 the population of the USA. You are making a difference in the world, just one but it is a huge difference. Making a difference takes time. Be patient and don’t dwell on the time. . . think back to when you graduated highschool, does it seem like yesterday? Look how fast this year has already gone by.
Hang in there, it will happen. Not tomorrow but it will happen.
jennifer
LID 09-16-05.
November 28th, 2006 at 11:59 am
Hi Amy — Val here. Hope you are doing well!
November 28th, 2006 at 12:00 pm
First, I want to say that LunLun probally was just looking for more support at the moment and I would gladly stand in line behind all of you who have jumped to his/her defense by pointing this out, but……. to suggest that RQ change her format of this site because rumors upset people?! I don’t understand how anyone can suggest that RQ “consider changing the purpose” of her own site”! RQ obviously started this for a reason. She has told us all that she has already been thru this process once before and she is well aware of what types of sites were and were not available to waiting parents. From personal experience we are all aware that there is no set schedule as to “when” things will happen. This site allows us to compile information that each of us has heard from our different agencies across the world and see if any of it jives. Thats all. Some of us are not given any info. from our agencies and we rely on others to report what they have heard to have any clue as to what may or may not happen any particular month. RQ obviously felt that there was a big enough need, both personally and within this community for this information, to take the obscene amount of time and effort to orchestrate this site on a daily basis. So, I feel that to ask RQ to put aside her own need as to not stir up the emotions of others is just not fair. I for one LOVE this site and look forward to any type of rumor. I also greatly benefit from the discussions and support offered on this site. We are all here because we want to be. We all have the option to read or not read any given topic. If rumors upset you, then simply skip the Blog and Rumor section and go directly to the other areas that you feel better about. I would never suggest that if you don’t like it then leave - simply take from it what you want. Everyone is here to support eachother and make this wait go by a little easier. We all want the same thing in the end….our children! And with the help of RQ’s site, we might have a small clue as to when that miracle might actually happen!
November 28th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Graciesmom -
Just sent you an e-mail, hope that you got it. I’m so excited that we have the same LID - it will be fun to celebrate together!! Take care and let me know if you didn’t get my e-mail. I e-mailed you from my work e-mail but my other address is andisaint@yahoo.com. Talk to you soon. Take Care!!
November 28th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
dcm1231 Says:
November 28th, 2006 at 11:30 am
Some of you have posted that you have been on this journey for 3 years. Why has it been so long??
Many of our European friends have a 1-2 year wait before they can even start the process.
For those of us who are single, the wait can be up to 2-3 years waiting for a spot to become available. I am now in month 25 of waiting. But…
I AM NEXT!!!! Woo Hoo! bring on the referrals.
Laureen
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
November 28th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
When we started this whole process, we were told there was a 6-8 month wait from our LID. It’s been 15 months since then, and we are getting near the end…..ours is coming in this one….LID 8-31-05. It’s been such a long wait, but let me say that I know when I’m finally holding her, this will all be a faint memory, and it won’t matter anymore. Have faith, and hang in there everyone. We were more than disappointed last month, thinking it would go through the end of August…. and it didn’t.
Thank you RQ for giving us hope, even if we end up dissappointed.
November 28th, 2006 at 1:16 pm
Thank you to all of you who responded to my post, particularly JenniferG. I’m sure I will hang in there. I’ve gotten this far. We’ll just all keep our fingers crossed for some positive signs.
November 28th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
Waiting4sofi, 2fromchina and vtmama –
another one from the Green Mountain State. We’re in Chittenden County too. pixiepam, another VTer, is signed up in the forum.
w4s — you must be nearly out of your skin with anticipation. did you have to redo your I-171H?
2fromchina — are your real intials “MT” by any chance?
All - frankly, I never believed the AOS rumor, but I did allow myself the possible fantasy of having a very late December referral as a result (LID 10/27/05). my husband and I relished in this over the holiday, but I don’t think he really believed it either. maybe that is why i’m not completely crushed. this too is still a rumor and despite some potential disappointment at such an “early” date, the game isn’t over bacause the fat lady hasn’t sung. mostly, i’m pulling for the referrals to get here in November.
PT
November 28th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
Lilysmomtobe makes a good point. For those who are waiting for # one and had planned to complete their family with one or two more adoptions from China, this makes for a long haul. In MN you cannot submit another dossier until your last adoption has been completed for one year. For us we hoped this second child would be about 1 or 2 years younger then our first. It’s looking more like a 4 year spread. Like they say; “The best laid plans….”
Michelle LID 4/06- Mom to three “old” kids and a 3 yr old China doll who’s waiting for a little brother or sister.
November 28th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
sodergal,
That’s why getting twins is such a great thing. We had two sets of twins in our recent agencies referral group. It’s two for the price of one!
November 28th, 2006 at 2:06 pm
Are all of you Vermonters first timers?
We just re-submitted our paperwork for the I-171 . Our agency told us that we would probably have ours expire while we were in China. Boy, does that stink…..more $. I guess if you start now, you’d have to plan on doing it twice, anyway.
We were hoping to be back before Chinese New Year with her.
But first things first……..where are those referrals?
November 28th, 2006 at 2:14 pm
Obviously, 2fromchina isn’t new at this. Thanks for the encouraging words.
November 28th, 2006 at 2:14 pm
waiting4 sofi
this is our second time out and if 2fromchina is who i think she is, then it’s her second time too. pixiepam is also a second timer.
you may want to check the forum part of the site (see list on upper right hand side) and scroll down to saint albans vermont to see what’s up with USCIS here. i just refiled last week. (ours expires on 2/14/07)
PT
November 28th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
W8n4her - I know it must have been so hard to reach the point of making the decision you did. I felt very sad to read it. But thank you for sharing that info with us. I wish you both the very, very best.
Numbercruncher, I love your posts. And Rumorslave, you crack me up.
November 28th, 2006 at 7:42 pm
Hello Everyone,
Just want you to know that I did not intend to offend you by using the word ‘juvenile’ in my post this morning. I had a picture in my mind of teenage girls in a hallway surrounding the girl who was the outcast, letting her know what they think of her. I was called a Juvenile by one of my teachers in 5th grade, because we had launched a bit of a protest because our favorite teacher had left the school..by his own choice…yet we blamed the substitute teacher and made him pay a big price for being there. I was terribly offended by being called the name…but in using it here I meant it reminded me of how pre-teens treat one another when they form cliques and go out of their way to reject someone.
RQ, please forgive me for offending you with my post. It wasn’t my intent, since I don’t see this site as strictly a rumor clearinghouse, but a “Grand Central Station” of adoptive parents. It serves a much needed purpose for all of us who are waiting!
PJ