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Europe ReferralsReferrals are arriving in Europe. One agency appears to be confirming that they received them through September 27th. That doesn’t have to mean the 27th is the cut-off, it may just mean that this agency had LID’s through the 27th and that they are included. The last I heard, American and Canadian agencies weren’t expecting them until tomorrow. But with them showing up in Europe? Just sign me off as being on pins and needles. 
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January 2nd, 2007 at 7:12 am
Good morning! Wow! Pins and needles here too!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 am
I’m on nails and spikes
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 am
What a great way to start the new year! Good luck to all of you hopping for referrals.
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:22 am
Yahooo! What a wonderful message to wake up to!
Congrats to all those (hopefully this means you RQ!!!) expecting referrals this week! Yeah….it’s happening once again!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:23 am
I said this weekend I had a VERY strong feeling they were arriving today!
Oh, fingers crossed for you September folks! Come on SOB!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:23 am
This is going to be a very distracted day for many of us. Come on All of Sept!!!!
QJ
LID 9-29-05
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:23 am
Come on SOB!!! I am pulling for all of you September LID’s and how about a nice surprise and let’s add a few October LID’s in the mix!!!!!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:26 am
My fingers are crossed for all of the September people!!! Good luck to you – and how about a few surprise October referrals!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:27 am
I’m so excited, I don’t know how I’ll get through work today. I just e-mailed my agency to let them know they can be arriving at any time. We are under the umbrella of a larger agency, so I hear what’s going on before my agency. Thank God for RQ!!!!!!! I’d be so in the dark with you and this group!!!!!
My Zoey is on her way and I’m going to be a Mom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 am
Still hoping for SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:30 am
Wow what a way to start the day! I am keeping my fingers crossed for all of Sept. and I can not believe we are finally going to see our daughter.
RQ, I was just wondering if the US usually gets referrals on the same day as Europe, or does that vary from month to month? I am sorry You would think after watching referrals come in for over 15 months now I would know, but it seems that all previous memory has suddenly been lost to me and I can barley remember how to type.
THIS IS IT!! 9/12 LID
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:31 am
This is a GREAT way to start off the day!!! FABULOUS news!!!!!!!!
Now… if I can just hear about my baby tomorrow (my birthday), I will be ECSTATICALLY happy!!!
WOOOHOOOOOO!!!
His,
Mrs. U
LID 9-12-05- NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.makingahouseahome.blogspot.com
and
http://www.youbelong.net/upchurchfamily
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 am
Pins, needles and a cell phone attached to my hip :) Hope to be included in the party!
LID 9.29
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 am
Finally, some news – I’ve been up since 7 am in the UK and refreshing your site ever since, this doesn’t effect me directly. Fingers crossed for everyone.
RQ I totally understand you want to maintain your privacy but will you tell us when you get your referral? Or at least include it in the list of babies without telling us its yours? Please?
Can’t wait to hear about the new families and see those beautiful babies – in tears just thinking about it! What a lovely start to 2007, congratulations to all – please post links ASAP, waiting to share your joy in Wales,
Kate
http://kes44p.blogspot.com/
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 am
Sometimes the U.S. referrals happen on the same day (just later).
Sometimes the U.S. is a day before Europe.
And sometimes Europe is a day ahead of the U.S.
I don’t know if that has to do with when they are mailed, or with how the courier routes them.
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:33 am
Let us hope the arrival of referrals is today! I sure hope to hear that Feb. is out of the review room soon. I can only imagine their anguish. Here’s to SOB.
Will look when I get home tonight for some good news.
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 am
Congratulations to all you Sept LIDers who are included in this batch. Hopefully they go through all of September this time.
I am soooo excited for you.
:-) Beate
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:36 am
Ah, some good news at last! Woohoo!
Rachel
LID 9/12/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:47 am
All of the sudden I don’t know what to do to get ready for the call! My brain is mush and I cannot seem to believe this could be it!
LID 9/9/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:49 am
Thank you Lord!! First thing I did this morning was check RQ. What great news, we are included!!! I’ve already called DH at work, my sister, my cousin, I wonder who else I can call this early :) I will definatly be sitting by the phone today! Thanks RQ!!
Lisa
LID 9/27/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 7:50 am
Whoa!
Our day may finally be here!!!! Per usual, we rolled out of bed, put on the coffee, and checked rumor queen. As we read this post, it really hit us: WE WILL SEE OUR DAUGHTER’S FACE VERY SOON!!!
The one good thing about missing it by one day last month is that we know we are IN this time!!!
LID 9/9/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:04 am
At last! I’m so happy for everyone about to see their baby – and I get to have a referral photo fix too!
Congratulations – may your agency be speedy!
Jo
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:11 am
Here is hoping….
Oh, and if they refer thru the 29th that will be 21 days of referrals. Isn’t that an increase.
Even taking it to the 27th seems to be a bit of an increase. If we could get at least 21 days each month that would give us a tad of a decrease in wait times over time.
RQ..does this make sense?
I HOPE WE SEE YOUR REFERRAL PHOTO THIS WEEK!
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:23 am
My first post didn’t show up, so I’ll try again :) Thank you Lord!! The first thing I did this morning, of course, is check RQ. What a great way to wake up, referrals arriving!! And better yet we’re in!!! I already called DH at work, my cousin, my sister, and was trying to think who else I could call that early in the morning!! I will definatly be next to the phone today. Thanks RQ you made my day!!
Lisa
LID 9/27/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:27 am
I am so excited to see this news this a.m.! I guess I should say I’m excited for all of you that are about to see your babies’ sweet faces for the very first time!
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 am
Janey, if you look at the poll #s, the 27th would represent a significant decrease in the total number of matches compared to last month, rather than an increase. I think most of us theorize that it is # of matches rather than calendar days that is the best predictor of the CCAA’s pace. Of course, this would really be the month to test that theory! Getting through the 29th would be more consistent with what they have been doing the last couple batches. Time will tell…and hopefully not too much time!
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:39 am
Good Luck Everyone!! I have my fingers and toes crossed for you!
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:39 am
Nice to wake up to some good news…
Congratulations to those through the 27th…and still hoping all of September will be included!!!!!
RQ not sure where you fall in this…but I sure do hope you have a stork land on your porch today!!!!!
Off to work….
~Linda
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:39 am
Goosebump time! I can’t wait to see all the referral photos.
Congratulations to all who will soon be seeing their little one’s faces!
TJ
10.18.05
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:51 am
How exciting. It’s going to be a long day!! RQ: Is there a specific place to list our blog address so you can add them to the list. We are LID 9/12/05, and I put together our page this weekend.
Gen
http://journey2graceh.blogspot.com
January 2nd, 2007 at 8:54 am
Once referrals start coming in I will make a post that lists blogs with referrals – you’ll be able to post your blog into the comments to that thread and I’ll add it in.
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 am
My agency is closed today – just hoping & praying someone will go in a check the mail and let us know even that they are there.
9/9/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 am
Oh my goodness! I am getting EXCITED now! The 9/27 cut off will include us, but I’m also praying it goes thru 9/29!
Staying home…by the phone!
Blessings everyone!
Judy
LID 9/26/05
http://ourjourneytomarlee.blogspot.com
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:05 am
Happy New Year is right!!!
Here’s to SOB
Congratulations to everyone who receives the referral of their baby. Thanks again RQ; a special SOB for you!!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 am
As a 9/29er I am so anxious to find out if we are included or not! I was thrilled to see the 27th made it. So happy for all of you!!! With the 29th being such a big day, I am afraid to hope we will be included and then be disappointed (again). I’m sure so many can relate to that. Wish I knew what the chances were of being included 50/50 40/60, etc? If we are being matched this round, I would really just love to enjoy this special time without the stress of “what if”.
RQ, any idea of R3, R4, etc of 9/29 making it in?
Julie
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 am
Just a small note to those who may be new here – SOB means September or Bust!
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 am
Ours (Smallish U.S. agency) reportedly won’t arrive at the agency until Wednesday. :-(
Pam C
LID 9/9/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 am
Can I offically tell family and friends that we WILL be in the next batch? Someone please say it is so!
10/10/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 am
It’s been nearly 2 hours, surely there’s more clarification out there?
Going nuts and it’s not even my turn!
Kate
http://kes44p.blogspot.com/
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 am
mnmommy –
I am telling people we’re the next batch. (we’re also 10/10.) I think even if they don’t complete all of sept but get close, to 28th or 29th, we should be good for jan… esp given there are no LIDs for Oct 1-7. so, for example, we’d just have sept 29, 30, oct 8,9,and then us – reasonable for one batch. However, I am still totally hoping for all of SEPT, as we all are!!!!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 am
mia2me – It seems like forever since we started this wait. I can’t believe we will soon see her face. Do think they might sneak in another batch in a few weeks like last year?
LID
10/10/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 am
mia2me en mnmommy,
don’t forget that the CCAA was closed the first week of october with nearly no LID from the 1 to 7…
(see Poll Results)
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 am
My stomach is doing flip-flops. I thought I could handle the wait, being a patient and easy-going person. But now that the time is close, I am losing it. Just a micro-slim chance of my referral in this batch, but it is out there. If not this batch , then the next. Come on China! I need a boost htis month!
Early congratulations to all the September people!!
SA 10/08/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 am
I’ve been in New Hampshire with no communication! We are back in Boston and flying home to Florida today!! I can’t believe the news. I can’t seem to wrap my brain around it. It doesn’t seem real!!!
Jennifer
LID 9/26/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 am
roomforgrace – I feel the same way. After all these months, I need to snap out of this wait-induced fog. We’re going to finally see her face. Really. Really!
Lee (9-9 LID)
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 am
Hmm..still no change on the CCAA website — still says “matched thru Sept 8..”
Guess maybe they’re not going to update it anymore after all?
Lisa in MA
not yet DTC for SN (but hopefully by end of the month we will be!)
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 am
Ok, I told myself last week that I was NOT going to get my hopes up this time around. But with a 09/29/05 LID and hearing that they’ve matched at least through 09/27/05, I’m officially excited. If we’re not in this batch, I will be devastated even though we’d definately be in the next batch.
Please, CCAA, throw us a bone. SOB SOB SOB!!!
Erica
09/29/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 am
I’m not ready to make that assumption yet. They have updated it after they arrived at least twice.
Some agencies say the CCAA site will continue to be updated until the new Pay for Information system is in place. Other agencies say they are done with the box.
The CCAA will not be back to work until Thursday, so I would assume it will not be changed before Wednesday evening in the U.S. If it is going to be changed.
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 am
RQ…. are you ready to make an R3 or R4 assumption that 9/29 is in??? oh i’m dyin’ here!!!!! :-(
in or out?? 9/29
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 am
will the Ford funeral impact the arrival of referrals? there’s no us mail today (and everything around here in the dc area is closed)?
have all fingers and toes crossed for those with september lids…
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 am
Oh how I wish I could do that jmlance.
I think that there is a better chance that 9/29 is in than that they are out. I keep hoping to get more information that can make me feel better about saying they are in. I really think they are probably in, but I’m not positive.
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 am
Can I give you a cyber hug for that??? *squish* :-) those positive words are keepin’ this girl goin’…….
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 am
Maranara – lucky for us, the CCAA does not ship by the U.S. Postal Service.
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 am
Congratulations to all of you about to receive referrals! Can’t wait to see those precious babies. Post pictures soon!
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 am
jmlance I am sitting right there next to ya—I’m dying here!!!!!!!!!!! My dh just left for his trip and now with referrals in Europe I’m am totally losing it!! I’m alone (ok w/ 2 boys) and not sure if we’re in or not —it’s not a great state to be in.
So are we saying that the cut-off may be M but we are only seeing K because they don’t have LIDS past L. My own little thinking there. Could we see some of the craziness like last month with dates past the cut-off getting referred or do we think that was just a fluke?
Nauseous and scatter-brained,
granolagirl
9-29!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 am
what’s worse is i just found out that my agency reports the pkg has been mailed but thinks it won’t show up until Fri or MONDAY!!!! what in the ____????????
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 am
Even though we are a 10/28 LID, I am over the moon for all of you September parents. Is this not amazing to share with eachother? We’ve never even met and I feel such a connection to all of you and OUR babies…Oh how I am hoping for you 9/29ers. Thank goodness for you, RQ.
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 am
Maranara -
I am in DC area, too — We would LOVE to hear from our agency today as with the Federal holiday, traffic is extra light which means we could make it our agency in record time!!! This is a very tough day in the office — first day back after the holidays AND the possibility of seeing Josephine’s face for the first time!
lid 9-9-05
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 am
gleasonbaby – it’s strange to live in this area when stuff like this happens! my dad is excited that he got an extra day of winter break! :) (fed employee) i’m just glad for all of you that usps is the only thing closed, not dhl! here’s hoping for referrals today! SOB!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 am
As a 09/29er I’m freaking out!!!
I’ll never forget when we got the referral call for Kylie. I was at work that day and knew I’d be getting the call, so I had the list of questions in front of me. Every time my phone rang my heart raced, but then it would end up being a customer (how I wish my work phone had caller i.d.!). Our agency is in Colorado and I’m in Ohio so I had no clue what time they would call. Finally at 2:21 pm I got the call and my life was forever changed.
Oh, I can’t wait to experience that again.
Erica
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:57 am
I would make a guess that since it’s nearly 5pm in Europe that might be all the info we’ll get today? The agencies there are probably closing by now, yes?
Oy, the numbness I felt this morning is fading to naseousness.
LID 9/29/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 am
Congratulations to everyone who is about to see their babies’ faces for the 1st time-I can’t wait to see all of the beautiful pictures. RQ, I really hope you get your referral today although I am really thinking you will be in China when we will be expecting our referral-what will we do without you?
My Anti Spam word is USCIS-wonder if this means I really better be booking it to get our 171 updated-
Best wishes to everyone-I am holding onto hope that all of Sept will see their babies!
Angel
LID 10-27-05
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 am
In 2001, I was in the dentist chair while the voicemail was being left at home for my referral of dd1.
When I got home, I flipped out!!! I called the agency and I couldn’t even speak once she told me she was holding a picture of my daughter. I had the list of questions, I knew what to ask, I had planned it all so well, however, at that exact moment, I totally fell apart. I was blubbering like an idiot (a happy idiot, but an idiot nonetheless!) LOL I could barely put two words together! It was an incredible experience and one I’ll remember for the rest of my life!
Will I be better prepared for #2? Nah, it will be just as wonderful, or moreso, as I get to share it with #1.
Good luck for SOB!!! I’m keeping my fingers crossed for all of us!
Snick
Oct 31/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 am
Can someone re-post the “list of questions” to ask when they call! I think I need to print those out, finally!! We’re using a local agency, so we’ll actually go to their offices to get the referral, but I’d still like to have my questions in hand, as I am sure I won’t be concentrating too well!
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 am
Holland here:)
Referrals are in untill LID sept 19th at 1 agency.
Don’t know about the other agencies.
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 am
Hi Everyone,
I’m new to the site and have been following along for a few days now. With a DTC of 9/29/05 for DD #2, I’m just about at my wits end! It’s funny because most of the wait has seemed so easy compared to the first time. Just in the past two weeks have I started pulling my hair out…not bad!
Just couldn’t stand it any more and had to register :-) It’s nice to have so many great people to stress out with!
SOB!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 am
Gleasonbaby… i found mine at http://www.julydragonflies.com/referral — try that….
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 am
okay… my link didn’t work… however, go to the julydragonflies site and you should find it there… good luck!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:28 am
@Mizzy, the next LID after 09/19/05 is 10/11/05 so it is still possible that they do AOS!? I certainly hope so :-)
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 am
First of all, Happy New Year and (pre)congratulations to all of you Sept. families about to get the call of your lives!
Jumping ahead just a bit. Can we expect to see another batch of referrals at the end of January and then another right before CNY? Just wondering historically how it has worked. Thanks!!!!! SOB, SOB, SOB, SOB!!!!!
LID 11/18/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 am
tiebie
Yes you’re right about the next LID for that agency, I couldn’t find it on their site but now I have:)
For all of you waiting I sure hope it is AOS:)
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 am
Just contacted our agency and told them referrals were arriving in Europe. They said thank you for letting them know and they will keep us posted. Nothing more definitive. So, do I sit by the phone all day or just wait for tomorrow????
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 am
mia2me:
I’m sooo ready to shout from the rooftop, “We’re definitely next, end of Jan.!” but I just can’t let myself go there yet. Things are just too iffy. It was much easier to predict for dd#1 in 2004. However, we will be ready to celebrate as soon as we know for sure, and we’re excited for all who will see their babes for the first time this week!
CJ
LID 10/10
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 am
I just called my agency and got their machine. That was a bit depressing as I wanted them to be there today. However, I talked to the branch director before Christmas and she assured me that if referrals came in while they were closed that it was her thought that someone would come in and start making the calls. But, anyway, I am now doubtful that I will hear anything today from my agency.
Hanging by a very thin thread
Yolanda
9/15/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 am
Our agency had nothing today, but seeing Europe has them, they expect they will get them tomorrow. We shall see.
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
willflower, is your agency stateside? just wondering why in the world mine is thinking Fri or next Mon!??? can i say we are on the right coast? heehee maybe that’s why?!
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Can’t wait to see those referrals flying in! Congrats to those who will soon be seeing pictures of your new daughter or son! And also to those who are one step closer! SOB (Thanks, RQ for reminding me what that actually stands for over here! LOL!)
Kathryn
http://journeytoourchild.blogspot.com
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Our agency’s update says “no matches have been made yet, we expect that CCAA will undertake matching when they return from break”.
Good thing RQ has the straight info!
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 pm
If the cut-off date of Sept 27 is correct, then this is great news as far as a speed-up goes. In the 33 days since the last batch of referrals, CCAA cleared off 19 days woth of LID’s. Thats a ratio of 1.737 calendar days per LID, down from 2.3 a few months ago. And the moving average of the last five months has decreased for the 7th month in a row, to 2.111.
So everyone who was counting the days and then multiplying by 2.3 can now multiply by 1.737 instead. For our LID of February 7/06, the speed-up from 2.3 to 1.737 means late July/07 rather than mid-November/07 for a referral.
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Test post.
My posts don’t seem to show up all the time..
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 pm
My agency has nothing today. Hoping for tomorrow
Meg
LID 9/29
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 pm
I’m from the Netherlands. Our agency received referrals with a LID 12 and 19 september 2005 and 30 SN referrals . I must say they don’t have more LID in september!!!
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
numbercruncher,
It is the number of referrals in a batch that count not really the number of days. If they only got to 9/27 this time around, they aren’t keeping pace with the previous months.
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 pm
RQ –
Is numercruncher’s math right? Will it be that much of an increase or decrease like willowflower said?
I hope you are right numercruncher :)
SOB!!
LID 12/20/05
January 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Just for the record, NumberCruncher’s math doesn’t jive with mine.
Also, I would not advise doing a re-average until they hit the mid-November dates, since the end of September was a “small” period, and the first week of October has nothing at all.
And besides, my average from the other day took into account that they would get to 9/29. So this doesn’t change my previous 2.3 multiplier.
January 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Congradulation to all of you that are about to see your beautiful little one.
LID
10/17/05