Comments on: 30 Months

By: mom222b

mom222b — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:02:35 +0000

Luna~

I was actually responding to your original post – I think we are with the same agency. I was trying to be diplomatic and not come across as argumentative. I see that later you corrected your post.

My post was mad confusing as my son would say :)

How prophetic my anti-spam word is USCIS – I will be paying the office a visit very soon :(

By: mares

mares — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:00:05 +0000

WOW! this sure has been an education! Our log in date is 2-20-06. I guess we won’t be going to China this summer. Good thing I kept all of my receipts for the summer clothes my mother-in-law and I went crazy buying (this is our first time adopting and we may have been a little over excited) when our agency said May or June at the latest.

We have two other children and we are having the hardest time with this summer- are we safe to plan our usual August family vacation? Is there a chance things could pick up and we could be traveling during the summer or am I dreaming?

We have three groups in front of us so we are going to stick with China and we did get ourselves on the special needs list. Although after reading some of the comments it sounds like things are slowing down for waiting children too. Does anybody know- If you decide to go with a special needs child do you travel alone?? I think a part of us would miss the connections we might make with our group.

Hang in there Chinagirl07! You are so close!

By: CarolynW

CarolynW — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:06:06 +0000

Also, to clarify- the countdown of “30 months” (or whatever) starts with your LID. So, the agencies are counting the time between LID & Referral.

By: CarolynW

CarolynW — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:03:29 +0000

Chinagirl07-
Your LID is Dec 05, right? (I can never remember if the day or the month comes first!)
Aquaintances of ours have a LID in early December 05 & their agency (in Canada) has told them to expect a referral between June and August.
So, if I were you, I’d hang in there for China at this point.

By: chinagirl07

chinagirl07 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:23:12 +0000

I read an article in a Houston newspaper this weekend that Russia had or is about to close its doors to adoption agencies. They say its not permenant (I think) but they are going to revamp their system(not verbatim).
When my dh and I started this soooo long ago, one of the people at our agency said the wait is 6-9 months and then whispered, “but it can happen in 4-5; not long at all”……16-1/2 months later here we still wait! I also checked into switching to Vietnam, but my agency said it would be a BIG step backwards for us. We are LID 12/05/05 and are actually the next group at our agency. I didn’t really want to switch but I was so frustrated when that 2-day referral period came out!
Lauree
LID 12/05/05

By: havoc315

havoc315 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:09:08 +0000

The reality is, until fall of 2006, I believe most new people were still getting misleading information.
We were paperchasing in the spring and summer of 2006. At the time, we were under the continued impression that the wait was about a year, possibly a bit over a year.
For someone willing to wait 6-9 months, a wait of 12-14 months isn’t so absurd. So people like us continued paperchasing, and continued submitting their documents.
Then, as we were submitting our paperwork in fall of 2006, we began to hear the rumors that the wait could be 2 years. Still, our ageny and many others would only say vague things like, “The wait is currently 14 months, and could fluctuate in the future.”

It was winter 2006/2007 before agencies really began telling people that the wait for new people would be around 2 years.

Thus, up till that time, I think the wait was not affecting the numbers of people logging in.

Now, once people began to realize the wait was hitting 2 years, they might not choose to pursue China adoption, and you might finally get a reduction in dossiers. But for someone who spent months putting together their dossier, and THEN they learn of the long wait– Having already invested so much time and money, I think most such people would submit their dossiers anyway.

Therefore, I don’t think you will see a reduction in dossiers logged in, until 2007 login dates.

By: windthrow

windthrow — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:43:36 +0000

There have typically been two reasons countries have closed. The first case is where concerns arise with respect to how the children are entering the system (e.g. being stolen and sold). As I understand it this was the sort of thing that caused Guatemala and Cambodia to close for many countries. In my quick research I wasn’t able to find out what happened to people all ready in the system waiting when the closure happened.

The second case is when “demand” has outstripped “supply”. This was the case in Thailand and I suppose is what is happening with Korea right now. As I understand it these countries simply stopped (or drastically reduced) taking new applications.

With respect to China, I very much doubt that the CCAA themselves would ever simply close their doors and say sorry to all those who have applied. However, I can unfortunately imagine where the Central government might make a policy decision to simply stop IA effective immediately. Do I think this will happen? No. Could it happen? Yes.

The other possibility is that there is another scandal like the Hunan one of early 2006. I think if this happened there would be a significant risk of the program closing itself or receiving countries closing the program on their own.

Just my 2 cents on the subject

By: scandwaiting

scandwaiting — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:29:10 +0000

Although the possiblity of a three year wait is nearly tramatic. My husband and I are prepared for the wait, (well sorta) but the idea of China adoptions totally closing, that is bothering me. Surely they would stop taking dossiers and surely they would finish up placing babies with the families that are logged in. Obiviously, this is our first adoption, we had hoped to do this twice but, now, it isn’t looking very positive. Does anyone know what happens when a country shuts down adoption and what is the possiblity that this is going to happen????
J.

By: kriss

kriss — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:51:56 +0000

I would like to Thank you again RQ for providing us with such a wonderful site to share information. I honestly believe without this site I would still believe I am going to China this summer. This site has kept me realistic about the situation in China with the backlog of dossiers that are not going to just disappear. All my positive thoughts can not change that.

LID 7/06

By: adomom12

adomom12 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:27:41 +0000

banjobean,

watch out for the light at the end of that tunnel. It is often a train about to run you over with a longer wait.

LID 12-5-05