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		<title>By: catherinethegreat</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-36031</link>
		<dc:creator>catherinethegreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mussol...thank you for taking the time to post a summary of this issue...I appreciate this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mussol&#8230;thank you for taking the time to post a summary of this issue&#8230;I appreciate this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mussol</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-36019</link>
		<dc:creator>Mussol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RQ, I don't know for sure whther they actually tack the packages or whther they got an internal courier source (this is, in fact, what they claim). But it is quite obvious (and explicit) that they source on "the package arrvided at the agency" is courier-based and not agency-based. While the source on the previous "Nov 3rd in; we don't know anything else" rumour can only come from an agency, either directly or indirectly though an adoptive family.

Now they claim they are writing to the agency apologizing for the mess.. and asking whehter they can keep using their "courrier source" in the future, even if they assume they won't be able to.

I have no idea on  their other sources (except that some are quite obviously... this site ;-) Nor on their general accuracy. Just wanted to clarify that the rumour reported there is completly split into two different ones, and with different sources. And yes, the package could be just TAs, they explicitly claim that they don't "believe" this based upon past experience, but no first-hand information. So we'd better take this (and most...) rumours with a grain of salt.

All in all, not much info. No one seems to have much, if any.

Mussol
LID 24-11-2005
Referral: soon, whatever soon might mean.
Forgiveness for the extenuating wait: probably within 10 minutes of getting the referral ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RQ, I don&#8217;t know for sure whther they actually tack the packages or whther they got an internal courier source (this is, in fact, what they claim). But it is quite obvious (and explicit) that they source on &#8220;the package arrvided at the agency&#8221; is courier-based and not agency-based. While the source on the previous &#8220;Nov 3rd in; we don&#8217;t know anything else&#8221; rumour can only come from an agency, either directly or indirectly though an adoptive family.</p>
<p>Now they claim they are writing to the agency apologizing for the mess.. and asking whehter they can keep using their &#8220;courrier source&#8221; in the future, even if they assume they won&#8217;t be able to.</p>
<p>I have no idea on  their other sources (except that some are quite obviously&#8230; this site ;-) Nor on their general accuracy. Just wanted to clarify that the rumour reported there is completly split into two different ones, and with different sources. And yes, the package could be just TAs, they explicitly claim that they don&#8217;t &#8220;believe&#8221; this based upon past experience, but no first-hand information. So we&#8217;d better take this (and most&#8230;) rumours with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>All in all, not much info. No one seems to have much, if any.</p>
<p>Mussol<br />
LID 24-11-2005<br />
Referral: soon, whatever soon might mean.<br />
Forgiveness for the extenuating wait: probably within 10 minutes of getting the referral ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: jaycrnjd</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-36005</link>
		<dc:creator>jaycrnjd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodness!  Is it me or does it seem that the more days there are in the month, the less days that seem to get processed?  Maybe it's just the long wait that has caused me to lose track! :)

Still waiting...and not too patiently at that!

LID 12/5/05</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness!  Is it me or does it seem that the more days there are in the month, the less days that seem to get processed?  Maybe it&#8217;s just the long wait that has caused me to lose track! :)</p>
<p>Still waiting&#8230;and not too patiently at that!</p>
<p>LID 12/5/05</p>
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		<title>By: rumorslave</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-36004</link>
		<dc:creator>rumorslave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I'm not giving this one ANY weight at all! I expect we'll see referrals on Monday, then we'll all know. Til then, I've jumped off the coaster and am just expecting a weak and disappointing month, just like the last 15 mos have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not giving this one ANY weight at all! I expect we&#8217;ll see referrals on Monday, then we&#8217;ll all know. Til then, I&#8217;ve jumped off the coaster and am just expecting a weak and disappointing month, just like the last 15 mos have been.</p>
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		<title>By: catherinethegreat</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-36002</link>
		<dc:creator>catherinethegreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that information from this site only deserves an R1 and that might even be generous at that.  I appreciate all the information that you share RQ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that information from this site only deserves an R1 and that might even be generous at that.  I appreciate all the information that you share RQ&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RumorQueen</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-36001</link>
		<dc:creator>RumorQueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mussol - they are tracking packages over there? Surely they know that the only time the CCAA has gotten publicly upset over something being talked about on the internet was when families tracked packages?

Besides, just because a package arrived does not mean it was referrals, since U.S. agencies received TA's today I'd imagine that was what was in the European agency's package.

That site isn't very scrupulous - first they use my graphics and try to pass them off as their own without admitting they are from another site, and then they use tons of pop ups, and now they are publicly admitting to tracking? I haven't gone there since I got hit with a half dozen popup ads and some cookies that keep track of where you search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mussol - they are tracking packages over there? Surely they know that the only time the CCAA has gotten publicly upset over something being talked about on the internet was when families tracked packages?</p>
<p>Besides, just because a package arrived does not mean it was referrals, since U.S. agencies received TA&#8217;s today I&#8217;d imagine that was what was in the European agency&#8217;s package.</p>
<p>That site isn&#8217;t very scrupulous - first they use my graphics and try to pass them off as their own without admitting they are from another site, and then they use tons of pop ups, and now they are publicly admitting to tracking? I haven&#8217;t gone there since I got hit with a half dozen popup ads and some cookies that keep track of where you search.</p>
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		<title>By: tintin</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-35999</link>
		<dc:creator>tintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I donâ€™t know that to think about this rumour, but I spoke to my European agency today and whey had no news. It make no sense that one European agency got theirs and the rest not?! Donâ€™t CCAA send all referrals at the same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I donâ€™t know that to think about this rumour, but I spoke to my European agency today and whey had no news. It make no sense that one European agency got theirs and the rest not?! Donâ€™t CCAA send all referrals at the same time?</p>
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		<title>By: tintin</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-35998</link>
		<dc:creator>tintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke to my European agency today and whey had no news. Donâ€™t CCAA send all referrals at the same time? 
It make no sense that one European agency got theirs and the rest not?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to my European agency today and whey had no news. Donâ€™t CCAA send all referrals at the same time?<br />
It make no sense that one European agency got theirs and the rest not?!</p>
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		<title>By: Mussol</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/#comment-35997</link>
		<dc:creator>Mussol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RQ and all:

* The "European rumor" comes from a site run by PAPs, not from any agency site.

On the point of why can the agency say the 3rd is in but not know about the rest... quite simple: the agency has said NOTHING. The site confirmed that the referrals arrvide... through courrier tracking. So  the real info they provide is that the package just arrived this morning, Euopean time. Let's pass on how they were able to tack it, as it is irrelevant to the current state of affairs.

* The question of "Nov 3rd is included" is not a new assertion by that site. They confirmed (?!?) some days ago that Nov 3rd was in for sure... and that they knew nothing about the rest. But this date is unrelated to the fact of the package hitting the agency's desk.

My own recolection is that they know for sure that the package arrived to the agency (but not though agency's sources). They assume it contains referrals (based, apparently, on previous agency sources). They pretend to be sure Nov 3rd is included (but thy've been claimning taht for a while). I cannot tel how they got that, but I can only imagine that this comes from a Nov 3 family being told so by the agency, and then turning the info into that blog publishers.

I guess tomorrow the agnecy will start the calls, so then the usual referral anouncements will start on the various boards. 

Now, try to get some sleep, or at least some rest ;-)))

Mussol
LID Nov 24 2005... who knows how far or how close</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RQ and all:</p>
<p>* The &#8220;European rumor&#8221; comes from a site run by PAPs, not from any agency site.</p>
<p>On the point of why can the agency say the 3rd is in but not know about the rest&#8230; quite simple: the agency has said NOTHING. The site confirmed that the referrals arrvide&#8230; through courrier tracking. So  the real info they provide is that the package just arrived this morning, Euopean time. Let&#8217;s pass on how they were able to tack it, as it is irrelevant to the current state of affairs.</p>
<p>* The question of &#8220;Nov 3rd is included&#8221; is not a new assertion by that site. They confirmed (?!?) some days ago that Nov 3rd was in for sure&#8230; and that they knew nothing about the rest. But this date is unrelated to the fact of the package hitting the agency&#8217;s desk.</p>
<p>My own recolection is that they know for sure that the package arrived to the agency (but not though agency&#8217;s sources). They assume it contains referrals (based, apparently, on previous agency sources). They pretend to be sure Nov 3rd is included (but thy&#8217;ve been claimning taht for a while). I cannot tel how they got that, but I can only imagine that this comes from a Nov 3 family being told so by the agency, and then turning the info into that blog publishers.</p>
<p>I guess tomorrow the agnecy will start the calls, so then the usual referral anouncements will start on the various boards. </p>
<p>Now, try to get some sleep, or at least some rest ;-)))</p>
<p>Mussol<br />
LID Nov 24 2005&#8230; who knows how far or how close</p>
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		<title>By: tassiegirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tassiegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! Get me off this stinking ride................
LID 11/22/05</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAAAHHHHHHHHH!!! Get me off this stinking ride&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
LID 11/22/05</p>
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