Analysis on numbers given during CCAA’s tour
I’d like to do some analysis on the some of the numbers given during CCAA’s recent tour. For reference, here are the numbers I’ll be using:
- Wait likely to be 2.5 to 3 years
- Two years by end of 2007
- 15 day batches in 2008
Let us assume they are going to refer the first half of December 2005 in early December 2007. From Nov 8 to Dec 15th there are 669 poll families. Divide 669 by 6 and you get 112 poll families per month.
Remember this little table?

I think that expecting only 112 poll families per month on average tells us that the numbers are going to remain quite low for this calendar year. They’ve averaged 121 poll families over the past three months.
I had heard rumors that the yearly ceiling was going to be lower this year than last year. Is that the case? Or is the problem that the orphanages no longer see the $3,000 as incentive to prepare babies for IA? I don’t know, but I’ve been trying to figure out the “why” of all of this in an effort to figure out when or even IF things might speed up at least a little. With the information that the CCAA expects to go back to half months after the first of the year, maybe the “why” of things isn’t so important for our analysis. Whether they expect the orphanages to start charging more, or whether they know the ceiling next year will be raised and they’ll be allowed to refer more, the important thing for this analysis is that they have reason to think they’ll be back to half months in January.
What might that mean for the long term? If we assume they will refer the end of December 2005 in January 2008, and if we assume it will take two months to get through every month then they will refer the last of May 2007 in November 2010. I personally think it will take at least three months to get through March, but for simplicities sake I just figured it at two months every month. Under that logic the maximum wait would be three years and six months. Or 3.5 years, which is longer than the three years they said. However, maybe they know that they’ll be doing a year of 2:1 and then begin doing 1.5:1? Maybe. But as big as the first few months of 2007 are, that’s kind of hard to believe.
Alright, let’s change things around and look at the backlog numbers and referral numbers given:
- Combined SN and NSN: 600 to 700 matches per month
- Combined SN and NSN: 30,000 dossiers in 2006
- Combined SN and NSN: 10,000 dossiers January through May 2007
Many agencies out there are very close to 50/50 on their SN and NSN numbers. The biggest agencies do not have these kinds of ratios because they don’t get lists that big, and some of the smaller agencies are doing as much as 90% SN now with only about 10% NSN. My guess is that the total numbers are somewhere between 50/50 and 60/40.
Another way to look at it is that some recent batches have been in the neighborhood of 200 and 300 NSN matches. Those numbers come from agencies who say they got the number from the CCAA. This means that if the 600 to 700 number is correct then at least for the last few months there have been more SN than NSN matches made.
Let’s assume that the rest of 2005 would have had 3500 dossiers before attrition. Let’s assume 8% have completely pulled out, and another 25% have switched to SN and are home with their babies. That leaves 2,350 NSN families waiting on a referral that we are told will receive a referral in the next six months. And if we assume 300 families a month will receive a SN match for the next six months then 4,150 families will get a referral over the next six months. That’s 691 matches per month, combining SN and NSN. That’s the upper end of 600 to 700, which lends weight to seeing part of December in January.
Moving along, starting in January of 2008, if they have referred December, the backlog will be 40,000. Multiply by .67 and we get about 27,000 families waiting on a NSN referral.
But, where do we go from there? We can (and did) subtract out the people who will switch to SN and who will drop out and hope to be in the right neighborhood. But there will be people sending dossiers over the next three years for SN children, and their numbers will add to that 27,000. I don’t know how to add those in over that kind of span.
Which means we have to just concentrate on the NSN numbers, which means we have to do some guesswork about ratios.
If we divide the 27,000 by 300 we get 90 months. If we use 400 we get 68 months. Obviously, the CCAA expects to get through the backlog faster than that. How much faster? They expect to get through it by May of 2010 (a three year wait for the May of 2007 families), that is 28 months after January of 2008. If we divide 27,000 by 28 months, that’s 965 NSN referrals a month. If they are only doing 200 SN on top of that (and they are likely doing a lot more) then we’d be looking at 1265 matches per month. I’m sorry, I just can’t see that happening.
In summary:
- I completely see how they are going to be at two years at the end of 2007.
- I don’t see how they are going to keep it to three years for a maximum wait, much less two and a half. I fear that the three year number is just another step we’ve been given, like one year was, and 14 months, and 18 months.


June 29th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Ugh………………
June 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
“* I don’t see how they are going to keep it to three years for a maximum wait, much less two and a half. I fear that the three year number is just another step we’ve been given, like one year was, and 14 months, and 18 months.”
I think that you are bang on in this statement, RQ!
June 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Sorry for being a little narrow minded, but how do you think that ifo will affect the upcoming referrals? Good? Bad?……
Shannon LID Nov 17,2005
Going a little crazy ;-)
June 29th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
The part about $3000 not being enough of an incentive to get children ready for IA is just not sitting well with me. I do realize this point may not even be truth, but if it is and the orphanages really want families for these children then money shouldn’t be a factor, right? I wonder how paperwork for IA is different than domestic in regards to cost. Anyway, that point is just sticking out like a sore thumb in my eyes.
Jennifer…
LID 2/9/06 and starting to get very ancy once again.
June 29th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
ugh is right. I can see how all this gets to everyone. I suspect that unless the CCAA works out a better way of doing things, which encompasses working with the orphanages to provide more child dossiers, bringing more “un-tapped” orphanages on-board, etc, etc (which I read is an issue), things are going to keep going the way they’re going. Unless something dramatic happens, the wait and process remains what it is and will be.
knowing all this, I’m happy to say some friends of ours…a fellow adoptive family that traveled the same time we did to adopt their first child, just as we did…recently submitted their application for their second. They know they have a long wait but are looking forward to it all. I congratulate them!
and if the time is right and we feel we’re ready, we’ll be jumping back on this rollercoaster again as well. I’d like to sit behind the those buddist monks with their arms in the air and grins on their faces next time…hehe. (re: a photo ‘mom2isabel’ once had on her blog)
June 30th, 2007 at 1:31 am
Thanks RQ.. I agree with your assessment of things…I believe that the wait will hit two years within the next 3-4 months…
June 30th, 2007 at 7:33 am
Thanks for the info. Even knowing this, we always still hope each month…….. The $3,000 problem bothers me too if it is truly one of the factors in the slowdown. I hear that the fee has not been adjusted in over 10 years and then I hear that the problem with raising the fee is political, etc. From a westerner’s point of view though, raising a fee that has not been adjusted in so long would not be unreasonable and from a westerner’s pov, a good thing if it results in more adoptions. So, I just don’t understand the problem with raising the fee and why that would ruffle feathers. But then, would the fee be raised to $5,000 or $6,000? If it were raised to $20,000 then I guess a westerner’s pov would have a problem with that. We are used to fees that creep up but not jump dramatically, I wish the orphanages could also have creeping fees…….Thanks RQ
June 30th, 2007 at 7:35 am
So are we saying here that 2008 will refer out 5 months? Just freaking out a little. We are the very end of April 06, so that is putting us right on the 2009 line…….please say I’m wrong here…….
June 30th, 2007 at 8:31 am
I belive that the reality of 3 years should be expected befor it gets better and next summer a 2 month shut down around the olympics should also be expected.
One question on the US role in adoption numbers - how many children is the US consulate able to process a month ? W are all hoping for a 1200+ month buy in reality that exceeds the capabilities in Guangzhou.
June 30th, 2007 at 9:23 am
Talking about raising the fees, Do you think its because the agencies know they have a set amount of kids they can adopt out for IA. Raising the fees could make up for less kids being adopted out. Just a thought
June 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
China Dad -
What two month shut down around the Olympics? I thought referrals and adoptions weren’t going to be affected during the actual time of the Olympics unless you had to travel to Beijing and the surrounding cities.
July 1st, 2007 at 11:06 am
But what about attrition? I cannot imagine that many people hoping to become parents or those who are beginning the process at an already advanced age will stick out a four year wait?
July 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pm
miasouza, I’ve been thinking along the same lines… of all of the people that rushed to get in before the new rules, I’m wondering how many were doing so due to the age restriction, and whether a 4 year wait would be realistic for them? I’m wondering if there were any questions or discussion when the CCAA was in the US on whether people with LID before 5/1/07 that did not meet the new requirements would definitely make it through review? Or is it possible if the backlog is too big that the CCAA would retro-active some of the new regulations?