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		<title>By: Skyler'smom</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/30/another-agency-says-its-the-21st/#comment-39613</link>
		<dc:creator>Skyler'smom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks dmp and RQ......I don't mean to sound so pessimistic----sp?  I know I'm almost there but this time last year I thought the same thing.  :(  I just don't feel like it's really gotten any closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks dmp and RQ&#8230;&#8230;I don&#8217;t mean to sound so pessimistic&#8212;-sp?  I know I&#8217;m almost there but this time last year I thought the same thing.  :(  I just don&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s really gotten any closer.</p>
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		<title>By: RumorQueen</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/30/another-agency-says-its-the-21st/#comment-39612</link>
		<dc:creator>RumorQueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some agencies allow you to get pregnant with no problems, some require there be a certain amount of time between adoption and giving birth, and some will kick you out of the program if you get pregnant.  Check your contract and talk to your agency.

Russia was practically closed for a while but they have recently (in the past couple of weeks) accredited some agencies to work there. Not sure how stable it is, and I think there have been some conversations about it in the "other countries" section of the forum.

I've heard a lot of good things about Ethiopia's program, that's probably where I'd start my research if we were thinking of doing this again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some agencies allow you to get pregnant with no problems, some require there be a certain amount of time between adoption and giving birth, and some will kick you out of the program if you get pregnant.  Check your contract and talk to your agency.</p>
<p>Russia was practically closed for a while but they have recently (in the past couple of weeks) accredited some agencies to work there. Not sure how stable it is, and I think there have been some conversations about it in the &#8220;other countries&#8221; section of the forum.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot of good things about Ethiopia&#8217;s program, that&#8217;s probably where I&#8217;d start my research if we were thinking of doing this again.</p>
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		<title>By: mtmomma</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtmomma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rjk:  I think this process is 99% politcal (unfortunatley).  It's probably like that in most countries. 

dmp:  I have heard from someone currently adopting from Russia (as in, she is in the country now), that the Russia program is shutting down.  Not sure if it is true, but I do think it is incredibly unstable (more so than China).  We had looked at Russia in the beginning and decided not to go with them for that reason.  Something to investigate anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rjk:  I think this process is 99% politcal (unfortunatley).  It&#8217;s probably like that in most countries. </p>
<p>dmp:  I have heard from someone currently adopting from Russia (as in, she is in the country now), that the Russia program is shutting down.  Not sure if it is true, but I do think it is incredibly unstable (more so than China).  We had looked at Russia in the beginning and decided not to go with them for that reason.  Something to investigate anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: dmp</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/30/another-agency-says-its-the-21st/#comment-39608</link>
		<dc:creator>dmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skyler if you get pregnant, you have to start over again at least thats what our adoption agency told us when we asked.  You're only 5 or 6 months away from a referral. I wouldn't do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skyler if you get pregnant, you have to start over again at least thats what our adoption agency told us when we asked.  You&#8217;re only 5 or 6 months away from a referral. I wouldn&#8217;t do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Skyler'smom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skyler'smom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rjk.....When people ask me now "when" I just simply say "I don't know, and I'm not making any assumptions anymore".  I've been telling people for almost 2 years now..."this spring, this fall, this winter".  I'm over it!!  Now it's just "I DON'T KNOW!"

A question.....does anyone know what happens if you get pregnant during this process?  Do you have to start over from square one?  Just thinking about trying again because I can't stand this anymore..........LID 12/20/05</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rjk&#8230;..When people ask me now &#8220;when&#8221; I just simply say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know, and I&#8217;m not making any assumptions anymore&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been telling people for almost 2 years now&#8230;&#8221;this spring, this fall, this winter&#8221;.  I&#8217;m over it!!  Now it&#8217;s just &#8220;I DON&#8217;T KNOW!&#8221;</p>
<p>A question&#8230;..does anyone know what happens if you get pregnant during this process?  Do you have to start over from square one?  Just thinking about trying again because I can&#8217;t stand this anymore&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.LID 12/20/05</p>
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		<title>By: threebluesteps</title>
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		<dc:creator>threebluesteps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2brotherswaiting - yes people switch to another program or to SN China.   So many have switched or gone elsehwere that many agencies are not currently accepting dossiers for Vietnam. 

litmom - I understand what you're saying about keeping track as a reach for a kind of control -- but ,..when you get close to your LID, that scrutiyny is immensely practical for reasons such as job decision and parental leave paperwork. Since last May when Nov 05 began being referred, I noticed the percentage of total Nov-forum-polled dossiers referred each batch, which has been remarkably consistent, and I can see where my referral would fall IF that consistency keeps up. We also had CCAA tell us the the wait would reach 24 months by end of 2007. As the percentage of Nov 05 dossiers referred each month has stayed roughly the same (17-22%), and as that happens to fit the CCAA Dec05-in-Dec07 scenario, I have known for a long time now that an October referral is most likely for me.  Each referral batch   confirms that. 

Because of that, I've been able to make some useful concrete (and major) decisions about income flow and parental leave programs.

Perhaps you're in a luckier situation where you don't need to have any sense of when your referral will arrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2brotherswaiting - yes people switch to another program or to SN China.   So many have switched or gone elsehwere that many agencies are not currently accepting dossiers for Vietnam. </p>
<p>litmom - I understand what you&#8217;re saying about keeping track as a reach for a kind of control &#8212; but ,..when you get close to your LID, that scrutiyny is immensely practical for reasons such as job decision and parental leave paperwork. Since last May when Nov 05 began being referred, I noticed the percentage of total Nov-forum-polled dossiers referred each batch, which has been remarkably consistent, and I can see where my referral would fall IF that consistency keeps up. We also had CCAA tell us the the wait would reach 24 months by end of 2007. As the percentage of Nov 05 dossiers referred each month has stayed roughly the same (17-22%), and as that happens to fit the CCAA Dec05-in-Dec07 scenario, I have known for a long time now that an October referral is most likely for me.  Each referral batch   confirms that. </p>
<p>Because of that, I&#8217;ve been able to make some useful concrete (and major) decisions about income flow and parental leave programs.</p>
<p>Perhaps you&#8217;re in a luckier situation where you don&#8217;t need to have any sense of when your referral will arrive.</p>
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		<title>By: crankhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>crankhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2brotherswaiting,  our plan is to check the SN list in October or so, which is when I estimate our agency will get the next one, and if our daughter is there, then we will switch to SN.  If not, then we will probably switch to Vietnam.  Our agency has a very good Vietnam program.  I calculate that by the time we renew our China paperwork twice, including medicals, home study, immigration forms, etc., we could adopt from Vietnam and be done with it.

Our LID is 3/29/07.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2brotherswaiting,  our plan is to check the SN list in October or so, which is when I estimate our agency will get the next one, and if our daughter is there, then we will switch to SN.  If not, then we will probably switch to Vietnam.  Our agency has a very good Vietnam program.  I calculate that by the time we renew our China paperwork twice, including medicals, home study, immigration forms, etc., we could adopt from Vietnam and be done with it.</p>
<p>Our LID is 3/29/07.</p>
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		<title>By: dmp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rjk, I normally tell my friends who ask why is the wait so long that the China economy is booming and people in China now can afford to keep their kids. I also says its great for China but unfortunately bad for me. I think people understand this reason more than when I throw in Olympics and quota system stuff.
2brothers, I guess my age has something to do with it also, I'm 41 years old, I think if I was in my lower 30's I might be able to handle the wait better. I always think back when I first had braces. The orthodonists said they would be off in 1 year but I wore them for 3 years just like how this China wait is turning out. Hope that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rjk, I normally tell my friends who ask why is the wait so long that the China economy is booming and people in China now can afford to keep their kids. I also says its great for China but unfortunately bad for me. I think people understand this reason more than when I throw in Olympics and quota system stuff.<br />
2brothers, I guess my age has something to do with it also, I&#8217;m 41 years old, I think if I was in my lower 30&#8217;s I might be able to handle the wait better. I always think back when I first had braces. The orthodonists said they would be off in 1 year but I wore them for 3 years just like how this China wait is turning out. Hope that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: 2brotherswaiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>2brotherswaiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dmp, we are logged in 4/07. Seems like predictions for us are 2010 or worse. I don't mean to lose hope and I'm sure things will turn around eventually, but I wonder if this is just not the right time to be waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dmp, we are logged in 4/07. Seems like predictions for us are 2010 or worse. I don&#8217;t mean to lose hope and I&#8217;m sure things will turn around eventually, but I wonder if this is just not the right time to be waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: rjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone out there think that US-China politics has anything to do with the slowdown?  Thoughts on intentional "slow-walking"?  Thoughts on the spotlight of the world being on them next year with the Beijing olympics and how all this looks on them (sending out so many girls every month)?  

Do any of y'all wonder about how this plays out as far as all these girls just getting older and older in the orphanages until many of them will not be adopted?

What on earth could justify this slowdown?!  Lord only knows they have enough people to work in the SWI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  With their population, and system of government, they can make anything happen that they want to!!!  

Another question:  How do all of y'all who've been waiting for a blue-moon answer your friends and family's questions re:  "How much longer?  Why is it taking so long?  What's going on in China? ..............."

THOUGHTS???

SOMEBODY REPLY!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone out there think that US-China politics has anything to do with the slowdown?  Thoughts on intentional &#8220;slow-walking&#8221;?  Thoughts on the spotlight of the world being on them next year with the Beijing olympics and how all this looks on them (sending out so many girls every month)?  </p>
<p>Do any of y&#8217;all wonder about how this plays out as far as all these girls just getting older and older in the orphanages until many of them will not be adopted?</p>
<p>What on earth could justify this slowdown?!  Lord only knows they have enough people to work in the SWI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  With their population, and system of government, they can make anything happen that they want to!!!  </p>
<p>Another question:  How do all of y&#8217;all who&#8217;ve been waiting for a blue-moon answer your friends and family&#8217;s questions re:  &#8220;How much longer?  Why is it taking so long?  What&#8217;s going on in China? &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>THOUGHTS???</p>
<p>SOMEBODY REPLY!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>THANKS!!</p>
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