Comments on: No more IR-4 Visas? http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/ Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and then analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:48:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: LinPatton3 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39661 LinPatton3 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:33:57 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39661 Thanks RQ for answering my other two questions and for everyone else who cleared up this current issue. Off to watch more Shark Week!!!!!!! Thanks RQ for answering my other two questions and for everyone else who cleared up this current issue.
Off to watch more Shark Week!!!!!!!

]]> By: oneblessedfamily http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39660 oneblessedfamily Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:02:11 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39660 Our agency has confirmed with the State Department that it is still possible for only one parent to travel. That the SD's issue was with parents who traveled together and then had one parent return home before the consulate appointment. Our agency has confirmed with the State Department that it is still possible for only one parent to travel. That the SD’s issue was with parents who traveled together and then had one parent return home before the consulate appointment.

]]> By: katiequest http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39659 katiequest Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:05:46 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39659 This is the information I received from my agency today... "Effective immediately, the Adopted Children's Immigrant Visa Unit at the US Consulate General Guangzhou will no longer issue IR-3 visas to children when one of the adoptive parents has not taken the oath at the oath-taking ceremony. We understand there may be a few exceptional situations where one parent may not be able to remain in China long enough to complete all the adoption procedures and we are in the process of designing procedures to allow for compliance with all immigration laws for those few cases. We request that any agency with such a case please contact us as soon as possible. This instruction supersedes any earlier arrangements or agreements you may have made with the staff in the unit. What does this mean? We have had a few families where one parent returned to the US after seeing the child and finalizing the adoption in China, but did not go on to Guangzhou for the US Visa portion of the trip due to commitments at home. In the past, these families were still allowed to obtain an IR3 US Visa even though both parents were not present at the US Consulate in Guangzhou. Effective 8/1/07, the US Consulate will no longer allow this unless they give the family an exception. So, this means that if both parents are not present at the US Consulate in Guangzhou and take the oath, their child will be issued an IR4 US Visa. If your child enters the US with an IR4 visa, your child will not become a US citizenship upon landing in the US. You will have to readopt using your state's requirements, meet the US citizenship requirements in the US and apply (and pay the fee) to become a US citizen. This is important information to consider when you are deciding if both parents will travel the entire time in China." This is the information I received from my agency today…

“Effective immediately, the Adopted Children’s Immigrant Visa Unit at the US Consulate General Guangzhou will no longer issue IR-3 visas to children when one of the adoptive parents has not taken the oath at the oath-taking ceremony. We understand there may be a few exceptional situations where one parent may not be able to remain in China long enough to complete all the adoption procedures and we are in the process of designing procedures to allow for compliance with all immigration laws for those few cases. We request that any agency with such a case please contact us as soon as possible. This instruction supersedes any earlier arrangements or agreements you may have made with the staff in the unit.

What does this mean? We have had a few families where one parent returned to the US after seeing the child and finalizing the adoption in China, but did not go on to Guangzhou for the US Visa portion of the trip due to commitments at home. In the past, these families were still allowed to obtain an IR3 US Visa even though both parents were not present at the US Consulate in Guangzhou. Effective 8/1/07, the US Consulate will no longer allow this unless they give the family an exception.

So, this means that if both parents are not present at the US Consulate in Guangzhou and take the oath, their child will be issued an IR4 US Visa. If your child enters the US with an IR4 visa, your child will not become a US citizenship upon landing in the US. You will have to readopt using your state’s requirements, meet the US citizenship requirements in the US and apply (and pay the fee) to become a US citizen.

This is important information to consider when you are deciding if both parents will travel the entire time in China.”

]]> By: RumorQueen http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39658 RumorQueen Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:31:49 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39658 LinPatton - some provinces require three weeks, some are okay with two. A few orphanages are asking for more than $3,000, most are still asking for $3,000. LinPatton - some provinces require three weeks, some are okay with two. A few orphanages are asking for more than $3,000, most are still asking for $3,000.

]]> By: tlday13 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39657 tlday13 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:30:48 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39657 I hope one parent is still able to travel w/power of attorney to act for the other.... My husband needs to stay at home with out son... he's on the autistic spectrum and travel can be iffy with him due to sound sensitivities, etc. He's a perfectly pleasant child, but needs the comfort of familiar people and routines. I don't know what we'd do if we both had to travel. I hope one parent is still able to travel w/power of attorney to act for the other…. My husband needs to stay at home with out son… he’s on the autistic spectrum and travel can be iffy with him due to sound sensitivities, etc. He’s a perfectly pleasant child, but needs the comfort of familiar people and routines.
I don’t know what we’d do if we both had to travel.

]]> By: LinPatton3 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39656 LinPatton3 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:23:09 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39656 Speaking of changes along the way....did we get a final answer on three weeks in China rather than 2 and are we 100% sure on the donation increase? Speaking of changes along the way….did we get a final answer on three weeks in China rather than 2 and are we 100% sure on the donation increase?

]]> By: slanz http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39654 slanz Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:58:51 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39654 I am planning on going to China alone too and always have. My Husband has to stay home with our young son. I would never even consider taking him with me. He's too young. Changes like this are indeed very scary! I am planning on going to China alone too and always have. My Husband has to stay home with our young son. I would never even consider taking him with me. He’s too young. Changes like this are indeed very scary!

]]> By: HopefulFor07 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39653 HopefulFor07 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:04:17 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39653 3xwait -- I agree! A long, long, long wait is difficult enough but all of these changes which are effective immeadiatley are VERY SCARY! 3xwait — I agree! A long, long, long wait is difficult enough but all of these changes which are effective immeadiatley are VERY SCARY!

]]> By: p12 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39651 p12 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:00:21 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39651 LinPatton3 - Same here....my wife cannot fly due to an ear problem. LinPatton3 - Same here….my wife cannot fly due to an ear problem.

]]> By: LinPatton3 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-4-visas/#comment-39650 LinPatton3 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:41:13 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/07/31/no-more-ir-3-visas/#comment-39650 Ok...so we were planning on just me going to China with my parents and DH staying home (long story)...anyway...are we still good for this? From what I have read on the thread we are good we just have to re-adopt here in the US...which we already knew. ~Linda Ok…so we were planning on just me going to China with my parents and DH staying home (long story)…anyway…are we still good for this? From what I have read on the thread we are good we just have to re-adopt here in the US…which we already knew.
~Linda

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