LID Rooms and Long Term Projections
| For those who haven’t found it yet, we have a Forum. In the forum there are LID rooms. If you’d like to join the room for your log in month then please click here to make your request at the end of that thread in the forum. The first page of that thread gives instructions as to where you’ll find your room once it is opened for you. You will not be able to see your room until I open it for you. (Please do not ask to be put in your room in the comments on the blog, and please do not send me an email or a PM asking to be put into your room. This is a pretty time intensive process and it works so much easier for me to do it as a batch instead of one at a time.)
And as always, before you begin posting anywhere please look through the Forum Rules and FAQs first. It might also be helpful to read through the Blog Rules and FAQ as well. With that out of the way, let’s take a look at the LID room membership numbers at right. At first glance it appears that November is a lot bigger than March. But please remember that we can’t compare months that aren’t close to each other. This is because of the way people come to the forum – they are a lot more likely to come when their LID date is closer. It is true that there are people here in all stages of the process, but people tend to come en masse in the months leading up to their referral. To better explain this phenomenon, let’s look back at previous numbers. To the right you’ll see the numbers from mid-May of 2007. Note that November of ’05 has grown from 169 members to 259 members in the last 3 months. This is what I mean when I caution people against comparing months that are farther out with months that are closer. This graphic was part of a graphic used to compare the LID rooms to a poll, so we don’t have October noted on this graphic. But you’ll note that the next graphic is from September of 2006 and it shows yet another snapshot. This is not what we want to hear. But I think that unless the CCAA plans to increase the number of referrals per month next year, we should perhaps revise some of the longer term projections that have involved them doing a LID month in two calendar months. These projections are pretty depressing. And I want to clarify that the CCAA said during their recent tour they should be able to do a LID month in two calendar months once they reach 2008. But, from what I see the only way that is possible is if they plan to increase the number of referrals per month. Maybe they have this plan, maybe they don’t. I don’t know. But the graphic below is what things will look like if they continue to refer along the same path they’ve been following. |
 August 6, 2007
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I’d like to say a few things about how many months it takes to get through each month. Some people look at every month that a LID month was referred and say it took that many months to get through the month. And while technically this is correct, for projection purposes it may be more accurate to subtract a month or a half month from that figure if you know that the first and/or last months included a lot of the surrounding months’ LIDs.
I’ve tried to take this into account when figuring out where to split months on my guesstimate. But please just look at this as an educated guess of a rough estimate.
I did not try to figure out how the Olympics might play into any of this. I thought about it, but had no idea of where to begin, so I just ignored the Olympics for the purposes of this graphic. I think the Olympics will likely slow things down some, but I have no idea whether it will be a slight pause or a huge gap.
On all of my projections you should really be looking at windows of time and not specific dates. The farther out we go, the bigger the window. If you are on the bubble for the next batch then add and subtract a day or two from the projections, if you are five months out then add and subtract a month (or two). And always remember that the CCAA can change what they are doing at any time. They could do more, or less. These numbers are just based on what they’ve been doing.
And one final point, I would rate this as a mid-case scenario based on recent history, not a bad or good case scenario.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
What a pity. I guess I was hoping against hope that China — the CCAA — the agencies — would try to make a last-ditch effort to salvage the integrity of the program. No such luck.
August 6th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
Thank-you very much for posting this information RQ. I appreciate your comprehensive analysis. I can see what you mean now about how difficult it is to estimate how big a month like March 2006 might actually be; especially when membership increases in the LID rooms closer to time of referral. I suppose even if you look at this from a percentage of total numbers registered in LID rooms this is probably even more evident. I guess only time will tell.
I wonder how attrition from NSN to SN might change the picture over time since many people appear to be doing this? I am assuming in the short term not much..but perhaps it might change things for those further out. Hard to say, I know especially if there is a ceiling for the total number of referals (NSN + SN)…
My heart is very sad for everyone waiting…
Very sad numbers…
August 6th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Again RQ, you have worked hard for us. Thank you, your work is very much appreciated.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Yup. Very interesting, even though some of us are soon stepping off–helps to decide if we’ll be back to adopt siblings.
I agree that this is what things projected out look like (give or take a month) if the current pace continues. Any LIDs after April 2006 look likely to start in 2009. At current pace.
I do remember CCAA making a formal anouncement about a slight shift in pace in 2008 (this coming year, after 2005 referred). –one of their few statements concerning wait times–that referrals would move eventually to 15 days-per-batch (was it that much)–that there would be a change, and that this would happen at some point in the next year. In the past, these statements (such as ’2 years wait by end of 07′) DID prove accurate (even though decided well in advance of some of the babies being born, let alone abandoned…hmmmm…smells like a plan to me). Anyway: worth keeping ears sharp for any CCAA statements about wait/NSNprogram in their new year of Dec 07-Jan 08.
Will be interesting to see what happens with january 06LIDs referred in january 08 (new year/smaller month=faster? how much? more referrals-per-batch?)
August 6th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Oh the bad dream just goes on and on and on.
Since April of 06, it seems that our wait never gets any shorter only longer.
How is it that in APril of 06–are wait was supposed to be one year. It is now August of 07 and our wait is now still more than a year away.
What a loooonnnnngggg strange and difficult trip this has been and continues to be.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Way too depressing. I just can’t digest these new projections. When will the bad news end?? Remember then it was terrible to only see 2 week referrals? Now that would be like a dream come true. I’m going to put my head in the sand continue to hope for my 4/20/06 LID to be referred in 9 or 10/08.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:38 am
Hi everyone! This is my first post. Our LID is 1/4/06. I would like to join room for our LID. Also, I tried to post something in the Mitary families Forum, since we are a military family, but I was having trouble. Anyway, I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:04 am
This is becoming surreal to me – it feels almost like a cruel joke.
RQ, really really, appreciate all your hard work but, good grief , how much worse can it get????? On 2nd thought, maybe I don’t want to know…..
August 7th, 2007 at 4:14 am
Gulp! And that is the ‘mid case scenario’ (which hasn’t played out for a long time) I’m not even thinking about what a ‘bad case scenario’ could be!! Its depressing that the projection goes out to March 09 and its still nowhere near my (almost!) LID :-(
What a way to start the day, I’m beginning to wish I hadn’t looked!!
Love
Gertiesquidge
LID ~soon~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com
August 7th, 2007 at 4:49 am
Our login was 2.24.06
We COULD get a referral in June 08
I dont want to go during the Olympics, for I see that as a traveling nightmare, but somewhat fitting given the way this has progressed to this point.
August 7th, 2007 at 6:38 am
Forgive me for not being chat room savy, but is this the thread where I’m supposed to request to be added to a LID room? I clicked on the link above but couldn’t find anywhere to send a reply. Anyway, RQ…can you put me in the December 05 room? My LID is 12/20/05. Thanks for everything you do.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:11 am
RQ,
Thank you for all the projections–they are extremely helpful!
Please add me to LID room September 2006.
Thanks,
Amy
LID 9-8-06
P.S. Can you think of any way we might get at an attrition number? What if we queried our agencies and reported back to you? Just a thought.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:16 am
The ‘Request to be put into a LID room’ is in the Forum part of the site. If you look on the right hand side at the top of the screen it says ‘Site Navigation’ and under that ‘Forum’ if you click on there it takes you to the Forum. You have to log in seperately to post in the forum – different database software for each bit of the site or something like that!!
Good luck
Love
Gertiesquidge
LID ~soon~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com
August 7th, 2007 at 7:18 am
PS – sorry forgot to say – the LID request thread is in the Public part of the Forum and at the top of the General Discussions room.
Hope you can all find it :-)
Love
Gertiesquidge
LID ~soon~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com
August 7th, 2007 at 7:29 am
You must follow the instructions in this post to be added to a LID room. I cannot add you if you ask in here. When you post in the forum I have a link that takes me to your profile information and that’s where I need to be in order to get your user information so I can add you to your room.
If you want to be in a LID room then you’ll need to log into the forum and go to the thread that was linked to in this blog post.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:29 am
RQ- THANKS SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
THIS IS SO DEPRESSING…VERY VERY SAD…
EVERYDAY, I GET UP AND LOOK AT THIS SITE AND JUST PRAY, THAT TODAY IS THE TODAY FOR GREAT NEWS!!!
I’M STILL PRAYING THAT DAY WILL COME…AND I DON’T MEAN 2-3 YEARS FROM NOW..
SOPHISMOM
LID 8/10/06
August 7th, 2007 at 8:39 am
Thanks a bunch RQ. I had a feeling we were going to one of the “projection posts” soon. Very helpful. With an LID of July 25/06 I expect our referral Mid 2009. So I just keep saying that to myself over and over to get it to sink in.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:54 am
Hi there RQ,
Can you add me to the February 07 LID room?
Thank you.
August 7th, 2007 at 8:58 am
I was thinking of something last night. If they’re predicting a speed-up, I wonder if it has something to do with the fee increase, if babies are being held back in order to have them adopted under the higher new fee. Awful to think, but possible, and if so then just increase the fee already! Total speculation, but obviously we do obsess over the reasons…
I understand why SN adoptions are outside of the queue, but I think it’s awful that fewer NSN kids can then be adopted. A kid either needs a family or doesn’t. If a kid can’t have one in her/his (overpopulated) country of birth, then let them have a family elsewhere.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:07 am
I hate feeling negative, but the news only gets worse. Every month, instead of getting nearer, the projections go farther out. I started this process in 2005. At this rate it will probably be 2009 before I will get my baby. My friends will be grandmothers before I get to be a mom. Sorry. I’m just venting. RQ is usually on target so when I see these projections it is depressing. I feel like it will never happen. I just hope after all of this wait that China does not decide to close the program. Something is not right.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:21 am
Thank you, RQ! As usual, you are amazing and so generous with your time and abilities.
One question, does anyone remember how many months it took to get through October? Thank you!
August 7th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Again, I can not add you to a LID room from a request on the blog. You must make your request in the forum thread I pointed to in at the beginning of this blog entry.
Also, all of the stats are available in the link titled “CCAA Updates & Referrals” that you’ll find at the top right in the Site Navigation section of links.
And, again, I’m always hesitant to put long term projections out because there are just so many unknowns. But I understand the need for those further out to try to come to some kind of guess, so I’ve put together my best educated guess. I doubt it will be exactly right, but if the CCAA continues as they have been it will probably be close.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:32 am
HopefulFor07 – October 2005 took 4 months total to complete – they started referring October in Feb. 2007, and completed October in May 2007.
Tracy
LID 11/22/05
August 7th, 2007 at 9:33 am
RQ, thanks for your hard work. While you are usually pretty good at coming close with your estimates- I am going to wish that this time you are not! Those numbers are just so depressing. I am really hoping that once they get to Jan 06 LIDS they can start doing half a month of LIDS at a time. One can hope! Thanks again!
LID 5/06
August 7th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Sadly this is the realization I have come to. We will likely be just shy of three years from LID to travel with a LID 04/06.
I need one of those crying emoticons. sniff.
B
4/19/06
August 7th, 2007 at 10:16 am
I was just talking about this with my best friend last night, with a Feb2006LID, it is very unlikely (my prediction) that we will travel before next summer, lets see, my daughter will be almost 7, I will be almost, well, I dont want to say but closer to 50 than 40. I was not planning on parenting an infant at the age of 50. And then, I am sure we will get caught in the Olympic mess and more fees, increased cost. While a child is certianly priceless, I feel like I am being nickeled and dimed to death, thousands of dollars at a time. At this rate, we could have tried domestic, US adoption, not that I was ever interested in that, it just seems like it would have been easier. Off to call my agency to find out since we are redoing our I-171, can we increase our age of child requested.
Cant wait for my beach vacation,
JEBMBC
August 7th, 2007 at 10:22 am
Hi RQ:
Thanks for all your great analysis and data. We have an LID of 07/10/07. Yes, a looooooooooooong way out! My own analysis — which assumes that each LID month takes between 3 and 4 months of referrals — means that we will get a referral in January of 2014! Of course, I hope that the CCAA will start managing to get thru a month of LIDs in less than 4 months, but only time will tell…My personal analysis is really pessimistic, so I hope folks don’t freak out!
I do have one question about your analysis blog from a couple of days ago, if you don’t mind: You wrote: “Please keep in mind that as the site readership has grown we have seen more and more people voting in the polls. It may look like things are about the same now as they were last year, until you realize we have around three times more people here now than we did last year when the 8/22/06 poll was taken. This means the number of NSN babies matched per month has dropped.”
I am having a hard time following the logic. If there are three times the readership, then why did the November 15 onward LID number not increase? (I believe it decreased slightly). And how does that confirm that NSN baby referrals has dropped? Are you saying that because readership has increased, but LID poll numbers are static that more folks have shifted to SN? (I can follow that logic :-) or are you assuming that there has been some attrition, or both?
Thanks for clarifying. And thanks again for all the great data and analysis.
k
August 7th, 2007 at 10:23 am
Quick question. Are SN folks given an LID? or are LIDs only for those of us in the NSN queue?
Thanks!
k
August 7th, 2007 at 10:35 am
This is just too depressing. I think I need to take some time off from this site, however, I’m afraid if I do that, I’ll come back in a month and things won’t have progressed at all — and then that will be even more depressing.
How long can this go on?
I’ve said this before, regardless of cultural differences, I think this is cruel and unconscionable for the CCAA to conduct themselves this way.
There are children who need a loving, nurturing home, and there are a lot of PAPs who are ready to welcome them.
So the analytical and logical side of me wonders, who exactly is benefiting from this trend? Certainly not waiting parents, not children in orphanages, not orphanage directors who could be referring more children and thereby getting more finances for the orphanage. Does the CCAA benefit? I’m not sure how.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:49 am
I wonder if there’s a visible connection between the timing of RQ’s “long-term projection” posts and actual attrition rates.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
RQ,
What about the projections of finishing 05 in 07- then doing two weeks at a time??
When will the new year start? Don’t get me wrong I love having all the information and yes I am aware that to just stabilize the program they would have to do whole months again.(which no one expects) I just can’t wrap my mind around these 6 or 7 day batches lasting for several more months.
thanks
August 7th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Mezzok – yes, families adopting SN children from the Waiting Children lists of their agency are given a LID. Those dossiers are processed in order of when they are LID for the most part. Families usually receive their letter of acceptance about 2-3 months after their LID. Families with LIDs of May 2007 are now receiving their LOAs and hope for TA in a couple of weeks.
Hope that helps!
August 7th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
OUCH!!!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
I know that the CCAA said that they would start referring 2 week batches in 2008. Did they say anything about when in 2008 that would be?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Thank you, Tracy! :o)
August 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
This is all very depressing for me. We have LID 4/16/07 and I am not sure if we can wait that long. This is our first child and surely this wait will decide if we can give our baby a sibling. I do not want to change programs or countries because I feel like she is part of the family already. We have some tough decisions to make. I was wondering exactly what attrition is? Can anyone explain?
August 7th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
Maybe someone can help me, I would like to find the blog RQ put together re-capping the last CCAA visit in one long post, how do I find it?
Ps- I tried the search and it didn’t work, I have it printed at home but I am at work right now.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
I tried to emphasize in this post that the CCAA did say they thought they could do two months of LID’s in a month once we reached 2008. And I said that perhaps they know that they have a way to make this happen.
My point is that we have been thinking LID numbers drop enough after November so that they can do this without increasing the number of referrals. And that does not appear to be the case. If they are to refer 15 days of LID’s per month then it looks like they will have to issue more referrals per month.
The CCAA has said things before that did not come to pass. I hope that they know what the are talking about with this statement, but I’m really afraid to get my hopes up for it.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
RQ-
When you say CCAA says they think they can do two months of LIDs in a month once we reach 2008, do you mean once they start referring the LIDs from 2008? That is what I am thinking, as opposed to once they reach the calender year 2008 (wishful thinking!) Just wanted to clarify.
Thanks.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
For our son our LID was January 31,2006. We received our
TA April 7, 2007. We only wanted to adopt SN’s, especially after we saw our ds’s gorgeous face. We started the process after viewing a photograph of our son and we were approved to adopt him. We submitted the LOI and got the PA 2 weeks later. Now this timeline is pretty quick, it is not this way now for SN’s. For us, everything went much quicker than I expected, we were very lucky.
Happy Mommy to My Haitian Angel Princess 5
and our handsome China Prince age 5
waiting for referral for #3 Ethiopia.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Can you please add me to February 2006 room. Thanks very much.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
linpicc,
You have to request that in the forum. Link is at the top of RQ’s blog post.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
I wonder, though, if Dec, Jan, Feb are big. We are almost hitting December LIDs for referral, and that month is significantly smaller than November, whereas I do think October was closer in size.
These days, things are so extreme, I wonder if you really wait until you are close to referral until you start looking at RQ. Do you not think that there are a lot more people out there that have started looking at RQ well ahead of time? If that is the case, the polls would be a bit more reliable.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
I highly recommend joining your LID forum room! It has been such a blessing to me to have a place to vent with people who understand. It’s also a great source of information on adoption related issues but also off topic ones as well. It’s been the best part of this very long wait and I am really grateful to RQ for setting it up for us.
11/22/05
P.S. Don’t ask to join in the comments section of the blog. :)
August 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
It is so ironic to me that here I thought I was doing such a great thing…getting a little girl out of China and offering her a fabulous life she wouldn’t otherwise have, but the wait is so long that I feel like I’ll be in a freakin’ walker by the time I get her! Our LID is 12/27/05. We are so close, but so far depending on what happens over the next few months. Every month when the CCAA updates come out, I start shaking. I can not wait for my little girl, but we will either get preggo or pick a new country for our next one. It’s sad because I would have loved to get two girls out of China. It’s just not so inviting anymore. :(
August 7th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
ToCampgirl14
You can still adopt an other girl ( or boy) from china. Just join the SN program and you’ll see there are still so many wonderful kids waiting for a family..
August 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
RQ, er, don’t you mean that CCAA said they want to refer 2 WEEKS of LIDs per month – you wrote 2 “months” – and I *highly* doubt that you meant it to mean they’d said they’re gonna speed up so much as that!
August 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
I think I must have missed something…when did the CCAA say that they will be able to refer 2 LID months in one month come 2008?
Spicygirl04
August 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
RQ- in the last paragraph-when you say 5 months out are you referring to 5 months from lid or from your estimated referral date. does what I just said make sense? just curious with a 2-20-06 LID we are technically only about 3 months out- when i go by month referred I am looking at 10 months. I am sorry to say I think I know the answer. I am just trying to latch on to anything I possibly can to make this wait go faster.
I guess I should really stop complaining and be thankful to see February included in any sort of chart. That’s always a bonus to not have add January and almost all of February to every chart I obsess over on this site. We are baby stepping to the front of the line.
RQ, this truly is a terrific thing you do-thank you for all of your time and hard work. You really have a calling for this. thank you.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
what is the SN program?
August 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Hi Campgirl14,
Its the Special Needs or Waiting Child programme. I believe agencies get lists of children with special needs that they try to find families for. This programme is considerabely faster than the ordinary programme.
Good luck
Love
Gertiesquidge
LID ~soon~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com/
August 7th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Campgirl14……………
I feel exactly the same way! I too wanted to get two girls, as I have no children but I’m not doing this wait again. I guess I can try to get pregnant after our referral but we haven’t had luck with that either. This wait does suck and I feel like I’ve been duped! LID 12/20/05
August 7th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
We have a LID of Nov 8th 06 and the forecast is for Jan 2010.I can’t see the CCAA taking this length of time as the dossiers would be getting very old and out of date.
Yes we have reviews and up date info at this end but the paperwork will still be out of date as so much changes within a year,let alone two and even more so when you reach three or four years.
It would not be in the interest of the CCAA to have such out dated material.
As a Govt Dept ,I would expect they would like to have everything correct and as fresh and up to date as they can.
It will be interesting to see what they will decide to do in the next 12 months.
http://www.sophialotusflower.blogspot.com
August 7th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
CampGirl14: you could also look at in another way: it’s the little girl in China who is offering *you* “a fabulous life that [you] wouldn’t otherwise have.”
August 7th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
OK – so I’m not the best at figuring out these things, but I just don’t see the link for the LID groups when I go to the “Forum”….so I clicked on the “click here” link above and it got me to everyone’s requests to join but there is no link for me to send a message…
WHAT AM I MISSING HERE???
thanks,
jaycrnjd
August 7th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
jaycmjd
You need to login on that site to be able to reply. If you have not registered on the forum, you will need to do that. It is a seperate registration from this public forum.
August 7th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Oops I meant, I received my TA in April 2006 not 2007.
LID 01/31/2006
TA 04/07/2006
Traveled May 2006
This is for SN’s
August 7th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
skyler’s mom…
We felt the exact same way! When we signed up, we were told it would be about a year. I know our homestudy person had no idea it was going to be this long, but I am feeling a little guilty because although my husband totally got on board, it was my idea to adopt from China. Now we’re “sitting in traffic.” I figured we would have plenty of time to get pregnant later but now I’m scared because I have no idea when we might get to go to China. So frustrating having no control at all!!! We are totally at their mercy (and I’m so not good at that). :) Our log in dates are close. Maybe we will be in the same group.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
This is just hard to believe. Every time I get comfortable with the amount of time I will have to wait…the light at the end of the tunnel extends out. How depressing. Although I am remineded that these are just projections and no one really knows what will happen. I was told by my SW that I would have to wait 10 months…I have waited 15….apparently with another 18 to go??!!! No way…I just cant believe it.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
waitingforruth
Thanks! Now it makes more sense!
jaycrnjd
August 7th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Hello to all of you out there!!!!!
My wife and I just received our referral last friday, and will be travelling to Jiangxi province in 5-6 weeks, I say this not to “rub it in”, but to let all of you know that while the wait you are facing has been, or will be a long one, (we covered 26 months total) that the moment you see the child destined for you, all the anxiety and anguish and frustration will suddenly wash away. Trust me. I can only ask you to keep the faith and stick with it. I know how bad it hurts sometimes, I too have been a “victim” of 2 day match months and all of the other frustrations that seem to board this journey with all of us, but please believe me when I tell you that the wait is more than worth it!
These children deserve loving homes, of which I am sure all of you who are waiting will provide!
THE BEAT GOES ON, AND SO SHOULD YOU.
Godspeed to all of you, thanks for the support along the way!!
my spam word is xiexie, well said.
Kurtb LID 11/16/05
DOR 08/03/07
August 7th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Regarding the Olympics, we have a good friend that travels to China about 6 times a year on business. He is VERY sure that CCAA will pick up their pace after the Olympics are over. He would not go into “why”, but he just said he is sure it will happen.
Let’s pray that he really does know something here!!! My husband and I are ready to start paper-chasing #2!! I don’t want to wait forever for a referral!
His,
Mrs. U
LID 9-12-05
referral 1-4-07
“Gotcha” Day 2-25-07 for Elizabeth
http://www.makingahouseahome.blogspot.com
August 7th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
My Dad’s wife is Chinese, and she is going to the Olympics next year. Personally, I don’t think anyone can be VERY sure as to what the CCAA plans to do. You can only go by predictions on the basis of what they have already done.
Even the staff at CCAA probably don’t know what they plan to do. My Dad’s wife says alot of things are secretive in China within any organization that you work for, and they have very good incentives to discourage people from leaking information or talking about things in a disparaging way, and these are not the kind of incentives you want to receive.
August 8th, 2007 at 9:49 am
I just had dinner with several families that had adopted from Ethiopia. The children were so beautiful – and the process relatively smooth and quick. I wished I had better investigated that route – but I am tied to China having spent time living there after college, and I am *ok* with the wait since I have a 6 year old bio son keeping me happily busy. BUT if you are a first time parent facing a 3/4+ year wait, I’d urge you to look into Ethiopia.
August 8th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Has anybody heard?
My agent just email me. And said that 122a got referrals,
6 of them. baby average 18 months. Has anybody else heard anything?
August 8th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
happymommyshare,
Could you explain what you mean??
Sorry to be dense
Love
Gertiesquidge
DTC ~tomorrow~ YEAH
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com/
August 8th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
I just got and email from my agent and she said in her email
that 122a is getting there referral.She said that 6 of them are getting them. and the average baby is 18 months. I’m not sure if she mean her groups are being call up. She didn’t say.. I don’t know who she talk to over there. Or who she works with. But she did say that 123b group should be call in October sometime. And I need to get my finger prints up to date (I got to have then redone again for the 3rd time)
got to go food burning
August 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Just for the heck of it I googled the 2008 summer olympics and they are being held in Beijing from August 8th-August 25th of that year. I’m in LID 2-14-06 and am praying we DON’T travel during these dates. Just thought someone else might want to know the actual date of the olympics..
August 9th, 2007 at 8:51 am
Thanks for those encouraging words kurtb- !!!!!- it;s great to hear from parents after they get their referral- to keep cheering the rest of us on!!
Have a wonderful trip and a lifetime of happiness!!!!!
August 10th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
ok I give up…I am trying to register for the LID room…I click on the word click and scroll to the bottom to join…what do I click ON???? HELP!!!!!
LID March 17,2006