We’ve had a lot of people join their LID room since my post earlier in the week.
I don’t really have any further analysis at the moment, but the numbers have grown enough to warrant posting them again.
For comparison, the previous post can be found here.
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August 10th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Where is it you can go to put your LID information?? We are LID in Jan. 2007
August 10th, 2007 at 9:52 am
RQ..thanks..for this posting. I think its great people are joining LID rooms …it will be a place they can get support from each other…The NOVEMBER 2005 room is FABULOUS…
August 10th, 2007 at 10:12 am
Just as an illustration of RQ’s point about LID room numbers growing as the referrals approach. The November room only grew by 3% while the March numbers grew by 20%. Based on that sort of trajectory March could even be bigger than November.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Just curious. Is anybody else getting angry messages about RQ’s site on their agency or DTC group sites from waiting parents out there? I think this flurry is in response to RQ’s latest posted data. I guess it just goes back to the fact that some of us like all the information and data we can get and some of us don’t want to know and are angry when the data is brought to their attention. I know we all deal with this wait differently so I am not judging. But I wanted to know is anybody else’s agency getting a little snooty or defensive with their response messages when this (RQ’s info) is brought up in these group discussions. It makes me feel like they are threatened by any news not coming straight from them. I do think I picked a great agency and I’ve heard how supportive and incredible they are in China , but instead of the defensive stuff, I’d like them to step up and just say “We are sorry this is happening, it is beyond our control, we hear your frustrations, we are in this together and we are going to let you know anything the minute we hear it. We are doing our best.” Instead, their response messages make me feel that we are wrong in asking and worrying about our adoptions. (When I was pregnant I asked my doctor a million zillion questions and I expected them answered or at least if it was an unknown to be told what to expect or be prepared for- should this be any different. I was a paying client and they were the professional.) It is a different side of them (the agency) that I have not seen. Also, other parents post admonishments to those of us asking and praises to the agency like they are trying to get the unruly questioning parents back in line or scared to upset the agency. It is a new odd phenomena that I’m just seeing happen with this very long wait. Just wondering if I’m the only one seeing it.
Moon Pie
August 10th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Hi RQ,
Can you put me in the Nov room? Our LID is Nov 28/05
August 10th, 2007 at 11:07 am
becky
you need to go into the forum itself and ask. RQ can not do it from here
August 10th, 2007 at 11:32 am
I’d like to join my LID room (June 2006) but I can’t log into the forum. Can only login here…and only from this (work) computer. It insists I need to activate my email address, but I’ve done that repeatedly – and signed up using different email addresses – and still no go. Don’t know why it knows who I am here, but not there. :(
August 10th, 2007 at 11:36 am
Hi ElsieBB,
The Forum and Blog (this bit) have two seperate databases, you have to register to both. I think RQ likes you to use the same address/nickname on both. Hope you can sort your problem out.
Love
Gertiesquidge
DTC ~TODAY~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com/
August 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Moon Pie,
DW and I have found our agency to be quite supportive. We had a second Home Study visit several weeks ago with the social worker from our agency. At the conclusion of the visit, we said our goodbyes and the social worker left. About a minute later, the doorbell rang; it was our social worker who needed to talk to us about one more thing. I panicked thinking that our dossier would have to be pulled due to something I had said during the visit. To the contrary, the social worker felt the need to come back and apologize for not tracking our I-171 end date closely enough so that we wouldn’t have had to refile and pay the additional $575 fee. As the apology was being spoken, the social worker broken down emotionally; the stress of the policy changes and the wait time to referral for clients had become too much. Trust me, the wait time to referral for DW and me is excurciating. Yet my hope is that we would all be cognizant that this “new normal” is also impacting those in our agencies who are striving to provide us with the best care possible during these trying times.
toykodaddyo
LID 01/06/06
August 10th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
2006-ers can also join us here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WWFChina2006/
:)
wBw
August 10th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Oh March is going to be a doozy it seems.
And makes me even more annoyed at my lazy daisy social worker who took 5 months to complete a homestudy that could have been done in 2 months. WIth an April instead of March LID I could be waiting another 4 months -or more!
Thanks again…LAZY DAISY.
Uggghhhh.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
We also had a majorly lazy social worker who was so old fashioned that she handwrites her notes and then pays someone to type them out for her and we had to pay $120 for that. AND she took her sweet time getting the file submitted to the (Ontario) ministry because she spent the summer at her cottage. I’d say she cost us about 4 months. I’m not looking forward to having to find a new one for our 2nd adoption but we probably will.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
I feel bad for those of you who were stuck with sw’s who were slow. I know a lot of you don’t have a choice about who you went with. I guess I was lucky, before choosing a hs agency, I called about 6-7 and interviewed them ie. did they have a problem with a few of our own little issues, speed, requirement to take classes (not that they’re bad, they just take time) and then I pushed and pushed our agency to schedule then to issue the hs itself. It took about 6 weeks, which I thought was a long time. We actually could have been dtc about a month sooner. I now realize that timeline is probably about as good as it gets.
August 10th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
lol Becky
I think we had the same SW sounds just like her.
August 10th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Hello,
It takes a year to 18 months to get through the Homestudy in the Uk.We started the process in March 05..any of you out there started in early 05! So we’ve already waited over two years!
We have a Nov 06 LID.It looks like March is the only big month in 06 and though its big,its not as big as some 05 months.
It will be interesting to see what happens when we reach 06 LIDs.
http://www.sophialotusflower.blogspot.com
August 10th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
We started our home study in March 2005 too. Our LID is Nov 28/05 so it’ll be 2 years for us by the time we travel (if we’re lucky enough to go in 2007).
August 10th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
I think that we are very lucky with our agency. They are very “up” on the RQ website. They like to know what we are following, and what we are seeing/hearing. They have never made it sound to me like they object or resent the RQ website. And our SW was great this time. The first time we adopted, our SW was very lackadaisical. Things that should have taken 2 weeks took her 2 months. Now I will admit that the SW for DD#2 was probably able to ‘copy’ some of the stuff from DD#1′s homestudy, but still. I really liked both of them, but I am SO grateful that we had the SWs in the order we did. We are LID 12/13/05. If we would have had the same SW for both, I’m sure our LID would have been more like Feb 06. Easily.
I think this wait has been hard on everyone. I know the agencies are essentially in business to make money, but I’m sure this dramatic slow-down could at some point impact them personally & professionally. If I were a SW or employee of an IA agency, I would be getting nervous. IA is not a great thing right now–for Russia, Guatemala, China, etc. Sounds like many of them have issues. And what’s sad is that the kiddies are the ones caught in the net, so to speak. I don’t think anyone can realistically believe that there are not enough kids in SWIs in China.
Oh well. I just hope I’m wrong, and that the babies are being adopted domestically and are being well-cared for wherever they are.
Linda
12/13/05
August 10th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Wow – Rosieposy and beckyD123′s timelines really do illustrate the differences in US/UK timelines. Both started at the same time March 2005 but Rosieposy (UK) ended up with a LID a YEAR later than beckyD123 (US). At least once we are in the CCAA queue, we all wait for the same length of time, dependant on our LID not our country of origin!
Love
gertiesquidge
DTC ~TODAY~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com/
August 10th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Meredith Says: sounds like you are in the same boat as us. Please e-mail us. Would like to chat with you about the problems we have had. paparina13@aol.com Thanks, Mia
August 10th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Thanks Gertiesquidge! I gave it one more shot (with my work email address!) and it FINALLY worked. I can now log into both the blog and the forum. Yeah!.
August 10th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
No problem ElsieBB – glad it worked out for you :-) Hope to ‘meet’ you in the Forum sometime :-)
Love
gertiesquidge
DTC ~TODAY~
http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com/
August 10th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Moon Pie,
We are in the middle of updating our paperwork and we just got out of the review room (June 06) and they have not said a peep!!!!
So if I didn’t have this site…I would be clueless….I don’t care what anyone says or thinks…this place is a life saver.
~Linda
August 10th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
LinPatton3, I agree. I think an older post said it well, when they jokingly said, “…the agencies should be paying RQ a fee for keeping us off their backs.” This site is a life line for me also. Anyway. I know everyone is doing their best and it is a difficult time for both agencies and adopting parents. Again, it is such an emotional journey and I just want to feel we are on the same side (agency and client), working together not at odds just because we parents are questioning and airing our concerns(relating to data from RQ) But I do feel we are with the right agency and I know things will turn out o.k. I think everyone is just adjusting to this new unknown territory and tensions are high. Hopefully this is just a little bump in the road. I have to add on a positive note that I just did a two day babysitting job with a friend’s little girl who was adopted from China. It was a wonderful little glimpse of what is to come. We painted our nails, did our “make up” and jumped on the trampoline until I thought I would pass out. And she is all of 4! I had a blast.
It will be so worth the wait.
Moon Pie
August 10th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Hi All,
I love this group and I have been reading the messages for over a year now.
I feel so bad about the wait times and the different changes that have been made to the program. All I can say is that at least you are still in the wait and the program. There are a large group a people out there that can no longer adopt from China for a variety of reasons.
I was suppose to adopt my second child and I was just months away when my (now ex) husband had an affair with a friend and decided that he made a mistake. I was 2 months away when I lost everything. Now that single parents cannot adopt, I am out of the waiting game for good.
My point is, I still read the posts and I still feel your pain. However, I wish I was you. I wish I could complain and cry about a few extra months (or even a few years). So no matter how bad it is for you, there are so many of us that wishes we were you…still in the race of your lives. What a race!
Good luck to all and I will continue to read and be happy for all of you!
Sharyn
August 10th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Thanks Sharyn, It does put things in perspective. I’m sorry you had to go through that. You are right. I am grateful I am able to do this at all.
MoonPie
August 10th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Sharyn,
I’m so sorry to hear about your experience. How awful..
My dh and I are taking it day by day but because of our ages, we may be dropping out of the game. I breaks our hearts because we may never be parents.
There really isn’t any comfort in all of this but it is nice to have the support and kind words.
I do hope you will be able to adopt someday when all of this craziness of over.
Thanks for being a part of the chatroom.
August 11th, 2007 at 8:53 am
Sharyn, I am so sorry that you went through that and it certainly does put things in perspective. I am thankful that we can do this.
In regards to the original post, I do not participate in my DTC group because there are many people who get upset by or want to deny what is really happening (probably to protect themselves). Many people do get upset about RQ news. I like to get the bad new early and straight. I don’t go to the DTC group because if some want to avoid the disturbing news, and perhaps that is the place for them. I can come hear and get the information I need. And participate in my LID room. This way I get what I need and don’t bother others who approach the wait differently. I know that fellow RQ’ers welcome information -even if it isn’t positive.
Just my take on it.
September 9th, 2007 at 10:47 am
I think the website has helped me get thru this second process. Even though I have a long wait I like to see what is happening. Our agency still has not sent an e-mail with the Nov 25 05 referrals yet so this site has helped me see how far china has gone with everything. Our adoption agency was very good thru the first time and they where very good in getting all our paperwork in for everyone that would not make the new rules cutoff. Our adoption agency is telling people about the long wait and is suggest to go with another country right now. Our adoption agency does do 2 other countrys.