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		<title>By: 2BoysNowGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>2BoysNowGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read this book, but as an adoptee and parent of children who were adopted children;  the excepts I have read over the years hurt and offended me.  

I don't see any harm in reading the books(as parents we should be open to the possibility that our children may have these feelings but please do not assume that all the children feel this way.

Our family has always looked at adoption as the way our family was built (like birth or marriage) that it is normal and not a disability.   Adoption is not what defines us.

Of course,  we all look at the world from different angles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read this book, but as an adoptee and parent of children who were adopted children;  the excepts I have read over the years hurt and offended me.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any harm in reading the books(as parents we should be open to the possibility that our children may have these feelings but please do not assume that all the children feel this way.</p>
<p>Our family has always looked at adoption as the way our family was built (like birth or marriage) that it is normal and not a disability.   Adoption is not what defines us.</p>
<p>Of course,  we all look at the world from different angles.</p>
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		<title>By: windthrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>windthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need an edit command here too.

That should have been "deal with" not "tell with"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need an edit command here too.</p>
<p>That should have been &#8220;deal with&#8221; not &#8220;tell with&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: windthrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>windthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought it might be helpful for those trying to decide whether to take this book on to add a few comments.

The author herself is adopted and is now in her 50's. The list of 20 items is discussed in the context of her experiences and others who have sought out counseling to deal with issues relating to their adoption. So the list is not just made up out of thin air but are the real issues that real people have experienced. That being said these people are both from a different time in adoption and because they are those that felt a need to seek out help they are probably also a minority of adopted children.

The value in this book I think is that it is a reminder of the fact that we can't be complacent about the role their adoption story can play in their lives. I personally don't expect my daughter to have to tell with very many of these issues, but I feel better prepared to chart my way through this journey knowing the possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought it might be helpful for those trying to decide whether to take this book on to add a few comments.</p>
<p>The author herself is adopted and is now in her 50&#8217;s. The list of 20 items is discussed in the context of her experiences and others who have sought out counseling to deal with issues relating to their adoption. So the list is not just made up out of thin air but are the real issues that real people have experienced. That being said these people are both from a different time in adoption and because they are those that felt a need to seek out help they are probably also a minority of adopted children.</p>
<p>The value in this book I think is that it is a reminder of the fact that we can&#8217;t be complacent about the role their adoption story can play in their lives. I personally don&#8217;t expect my daughter to have to tell with very many of these issues, but I feel better prepared to chart my way through this journey knowing the possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: 1toddler2cats</title>
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		<dc:creator>1toddler2cats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noticed an error in my post - should have proof read.  Below is the correction:

I hated this book (but respect that others will not agree with me). It seemed to be saying that all adopted children will never get over being adopted and they are doomed to a life of disappointment and there is no hope. I totally disagree - every child goes through periods of feeling badly about themselves and their situation (adopted or not). While our childrensâ€™ concerns may be different from other children, being adopted is not a disability that is insurmountable. Maybe years ago when being adopted was not discussed and children were not told - perhaps then many adoptees were lead to believe that adoption was something shameful or somehow their fault. But not anymore. I believe that my daughter will have to deal with issues that her other non adopted friends donâ€™t have to deal with. But I refuse to believe that being adopted is a life sentence to misery. And that is what I took away from this book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noticed an error in my post - should have proof read.  Below is the correction:</p>
<p>I hated this book (but respect that others will not agree with me). It seemed to be saying that all adopted children will never get over being adopted and they are doomed to a life of disappointment and there is no hope. I totally disagree - every child goes through periods of feeling badly about themselves and their situation (adopted or not). While our childrensâ€™ concerns may be different from other children, being adopted is not a disability that is insurmountable. Maybe years ago when being adopted was not discussed and children were not told - perhaps then many adoptees were lead to believe that adoption was something shameful or somehow their fault. But not anymore. I believe that my daughter will have to deal with issues that her other non adopted friends donâ€™t have to deal with. But I refuse to believe that being adopted is a life sentence to misery. And that is what I took away from this book.</p>
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		<title>By: 1toddler2cats</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hated this book (but respect that others will not agree with me).  It seemed to be saying that all adopted children will never get over being adopted and they are doomed to a life of disappointment and there is no hope.  I totally disagree - every child goes through periods of feeling badly about themselves and their situation (adopted or not).  While our childrens' concerns may be different from other children, being adopted is not a disability that is insurmountable.  Maybe years ago when being adopted was not discussed and children were not told.  But not anymore.  I believe that my daughter will have to deal with issues that her other non adopted friends don't have to deal with.  But I refuse to believe that being adopted is a life sentence to misery.  And that is what I took away from this book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hated this book (but respect that others will not agree with me).  It seemed to be saying that all adopted children will never get over being adopted and they are doomed to a life of disappointment and there is no hope.  I totally disagree - every child goes through periods of feeling badly about themselves and their situation (adopted or not).  While our childrens&#8217; concerns may be different from other children, being adopted is not a disability that is insurmountable.  Maybe years ago when being adopted was not discussed and children were not told.  But not anymore.  I believe that my daughter will have to deal with issues that her other non adopted friends don&#8217;t have to deal with.  But I refuse to believe that being adopted is a life sentence to misery.  And that is what I took away from this book.</p>
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		<title>By: LinPatton3</title>
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		<dc:creator>LinPatton3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read the book...but when we were in the process of exploring adoption I saw the book at Barnes and Nobles and sat down in a chair and started to flip through it.  My DH came by and I had tears in my eyes and he is like "what is wrong with you?"  I told him that I was scared to death to adopt...I didn't want to continue the hurt for them.
DH said, "if they are never adopted the hurt will still be there.  We have to do our very best to fulfill their needs and love them...and respect their feelings."
He did not want me to get the book....of course now I think I can read it with different eyes....and I think I should.  
Thanks for reminding me about the book.
~Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read the book&#8230;but when we were in the process of exploring adoption I saw the book at Barnes and Nobles and sat down in a chair and started to flip through it.  My DH came by and I had tears in my eyes and he is like &#8220;what is wrong with you?&#8221;  I told him that I was scared to death to adopt&#8230;I didn&#8217;t want to continue the hurt for them.<br />
DH said, &#8220;if they are never adopted the hurt will still be there.  We have to do our very best to fulfill their needs and love them&#8230;and respect their feelings.&#8221;<br />
He did not want me to get the book&#8230;.of course now I think I can read it with different eyes&#8230;.and I think I should.<br />
Thanks for reminding me about the book.<br />
~Linda</p>
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		<title>By: nanbwill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with RQ review of this book.  You do have to be in the right frame of mind to read it and digest the information.  You also have to remember where this woman was coming from and how 'hidden' her adoption was from her.  One of the main points I got from this book was how important it was to discuss it factually with our children from day one.

Remember with this, all adoption and all parenting reading/research, each child and family is different and that factors into how applicable the advice is.  Read this and become aware of possiblilities, just don't assume that these things are true for every adopted child.

I recommend Talking to Young Children about Adoption by Mary Watkins and Susan Fisher as a very informative book that is a lot less distressing and equally insightful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with RQ review of this book.  You do have to be in the right frame of mind to read it and digest the information.  You also have to remember where this woman was coming from and how &#8216;hidden&#8217; her adoption was from her.  One of the main points I got from this book was how important it was to discuss it factually with our children from day one.</p>
<p>Remember with this, all adoption and all parenting reading/research, each child and family is different and that factors into how applicable the advice is.  Read this and become aware of possiblilities, just don&#8217;t assume that these things are true for every adopted child.</p>
<p>I recommend Talking to Young Children about Adoption by Mary Watkins and Susan Fisher as a very informative book that is a lot less distressing and equally insightful.</p>
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		<title>By: lucismomma</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed a good book.  You were brave, RQ, for reading it before adoption.  :)  When I read it, it made me really think of my stepdaughter, who felt totally abandoned by her own mother when her parents divorced.  This book is all about dealing with abandonment issues.  

Thanks for reviewing the sibling rivalry book, too, I think it will help with our two older, bio boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed a good book.  You were brave, RQ, for reading it before adoption.  :)  When I read it, it made me really think of my stepdaughter, who felt totally abandoned by her own mother when her parents divorced.  This book is all about dealing with abandonment issues.  </p>
<p>Thanks for reviewing the sibling rivalry book, too, I think it will help with our two older, bio boys.</p>
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		<title>By: booklover</title>
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		<dc:creator>booklover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauriesue,
You stand firm for what is best for you and your daughter!  I applaud you for recognizing the needs of your daughter - it's your responsibilty to be her champion right now, and if that means your sister doesn't "get it" - then that's your sister's issue. 

I know family can be the worst to deal with - but the bottom line is that your daughter needs you to do exactly what you are doing!  Good job!

And they are BABIES!  8 months with you is nothing, and I read somewhere along the line that when we adopt our children, we have to take care of them as though they were newborn -- in the sense of bonding issues...and of course that led to sleeping, crying at night, food, etc.  But I was super sensitive to that with our dd#1, and I'm so glad I was - I didn't leave her much at all for the first year except with a nanny that came to our house, and now 3 years later, our daughter is so confident and strong, and just gets flustered when I don't leave her -- "are you still here?", she asks...haha 

Our children are unique and different than babies home from the womb -- and I'm glad you are sensitive to that.

Bringing this back to the book - isn't that what it's about - reading, learning, and taking what works for you and your family, and then discarding the rest?!
Christy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauriesue,<br />
You stand firm for what is best for you and your daughter!  I applaud you for recognizing the needs of your daughter - it&#8217;s your responsibilty to be her champion right now, and if that means your sister doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; - then that&#8217;s your sister&#8217;s issue. </p>
<p>I know family can be the worst to deal with - but the bottom line is that your daughter needs you to do exactly what you are doing!  Good job!</p>
<p>And they are BABIES!  8 months with you is nothing, and I read somewhere along the line that when we adopt our children, we have to take care of them as though they were newborn &#8212; in the sense of bonding issues&#8230;and of course that led to sleeping, crying at night, food, etc.  But I was super sensitive to that with our dd#1, and I&#8217;m so glad I was - I didn&#8217;t leave her much at all for the first year except with a nanny that came to our house, and now 3 years later, our daughter is so confident and strong, and just gets flustered when I don&#8217;t leave her &#8212; &#8220;are you still here?&#8221;, she asks&#8230;haha </p>
<p>Our children are unique and different than babies home from the womb &#8212; and I&#8217;m glad you are sensitive to that.</p>
<p>Bringing this back to the book - isn&#8217;t that what it&#8217;s about - reading, learning, and taking what works for you and your family, and then discarding the rest?!<br />
Christy :)</p>
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		<title>By: gertiesquidge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lauriesue,

It sounds like you are doing the best thing for your daughter.  It could be so unsettling and scary for her to be on a plane again and then if you left her with strangers it could be even more frightening for her.  Although she could cope just fine with it, you just dont' know and for me it wouldn't be worth taking a chance on.  You sound like a very sensitive mum and its a pity your sister can't be similarly sensitive toward your daughter's situation.  You could try asking her how her children might feel if they had gone through similar experiences to your daughter?  This helped a little with my sister - asking her how would her kids feel to lose everyone and everything familiar to them as a little baby, and then again as a toddler.

For our Littly it helped that we took pictures of our home with us that he could look at, and talked about 'when we all go home again' so that he knew this wasn't another permanent move, and that he wasn't losing anyone.

I hope you have a great visit with your family and that your daughter copes with everything.

Best wishes
Gertiesquidge
DTC 10th August 2007
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lauriesue,</p>
<p>It sounds like you are doing the best thing for your daughter.  It could be so unsettling and scary for her to be on a plane again and then if you left her with strangers it could be even more frightening for her.  Although she could cope just fine with it, you just dont&#8217; know and for me it wouldn&#8217;t be worth taking a chance on.  You sound like a very sensitive mum and its a pity your sister can&#8217;t be similarly sensitive toward your daughter&#8217;s situation.  You could try asking her how her children might feel if they had gone through similar experiences to your daughter?  This helped a little with my sister - asking her how would her kids feel to lose everyone and everything familiar to them as a little baby, and then again as a toddler.</p>
<p>For our Littly it helped that we took pictures of our home with us that he could look at, and talked about &#8216;when we all go home again&#8217; so that he knew this wasn&#8217;t another permanent move, and that he wasn&#8217;t losing anyone.</p>
<p>I hope you have a great visit with your family and that your daughter copes with everything.</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Gertiesquidge<br />
DTC 10th August 2007<br />
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