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All over the place

A European agency seems to think some of December may be included in this batch.

A North American agency seems to be hopeful that the 28th may be included.

Most other agencies are pointing to the 24th and 25th.

And I’m not even sure that these are all that ratable at this point. I think they are all in the realm of an R2 or R3, probably closer to R2.

It is pretty frustrating to be this far along and not have a clue. But some months it happens this way.

UPDATE: I am led to believe that they will likely not be here before Labor Day. I have two accounts that they are still working on matches (coming from two completely different places).


 
 
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67 Responses to “All over the place”

  1. hedge Says:

    It is frustrating, but understandable (I guess) :(

    With an 11/28 LID, I still have hope!

  2. afraine Says:

    Okay RQ, but I am REALLY hoping you find some info on when today! I want to see my baby!!!!:)

    11/22/05

  3. CaelynsMum Says:

    Thanks for the update RQ! Any news is better than quiet :)

  4. Lisa Says:

    Thanks for keeping us update without you we get nothing. Thanks RQ.

  5. sewhopeful22 Says:

    Thanks for posting some good rumors! Assuming the 25th but ever hopeful for December!!

  6. kcbock Says:

    Oh I hope it is further than the 24th or 25th. That would be horribly depressing. Come on referrals!!! December sounds nice!!!

    Christy
    http://www.tomiawithlove.blogspot.com

  7. WaitinginAZ Says:

    Thanks for the update RQ!!!!! I too was really hoping for something a little more solid!!!! But at this point I will take what info I can get…. I am not even next ,, and my nerves are shot already… What will I be like when I am next??? I shutter to think….

    LID 12/19/05

  8. redladybug Says:

    Are any of them saying when they expect to see these referrals? I’m sure you would have mentioned it if they had an idea of when they would arrive…..I can’t stand this wait!

  9. sophie_mom Says:

    Let the roller coaster ride begin….

    I’ve been home for over 4 months with my daughter, and each month I get so excited about referrals. I bet there are a lot of people like me who are home with their children but are still glued to RQ 24/7.

    Bring on the referrals!!!

    Erica
    mama to Kylie Ying & Sophie Jing

  10. lilandgrace Says:

    Thanks, RQ,
    Any info on WHEN? I was hoping to hear something today. But at least it’s not deathly quiet anymore!!

  11. Trace7 Says:

    Oh man! I am so excited to finally almost be off of this “waiting” rollercoaster!

    Tracy
    LID 11-22-05 - next! woo-hoo!

    Anti-spam word: Hunan - which is where my friend Shelly thinks our baby will be from :) Well, we should know VERY SOON!

  12. mlb75 Says:

    Wow, this is crazy, everywhere from 3 days to more then 9 days. I hope they make it into December, that would be awesome but I am not counting on it. I feel sorry for those of you with a late November LID, the nerves must be all over the place right now. Good luck.
    Michael
    LID 2/28/06

  13. tassiegirl Says:

    ARGHHHH! It’s two am here ‘Down Under’ and I want some JUICY rumours about when those referrals will be arriving!!!! Please, throw us a bone CCAA…………..
    A sleepless Tassiegirl
    LID 22nd November 2005

  14. chinagirl07 Says:

    okay, I’m so dizzy I’m going to be sick. I so hope they get through the 28th (at least). But at least we’ve started to hear something again!

  15. mezzok Says:

    Hi RQ:

    Thanks for this. In my mind (and in my own analysis), any and all of these scenarios are positive. Because Nov is so huge, getting more than a 2 to 3 day batch would be real progress. I know this is hard for some folks to hear, but Nov 22-24 are all pretty big days, as are the 28th and the 30th. Cross our fingers and hope…!!!

    k

  16. RumorQueen Says:

    I just posted an Update:

    UPDATE: I am led to believe that they will likely not be here before Labor Day. I have two accounts that they are still working on matches (coming from two completely different places).

  17. rumorslave Says:

    My personal guess was the 27th but I was hoping for the 28th –thinking they might stick with the 7 day thing… it will be nice when we all know so we can start thinking about next month! and of course so those families who do receive referrals can FINALLY see the faces of their little ones.
    susan

  18. CaelynsMum Says:

    Still working on matches, hmmm….since they were doing Nov 24/25 two weeks ago….maybe that’s a good sign!

    LID Nov 28

  19. RumorQueen Says:

    I don’t believe they were matching two weeks ago. What makes you think they were doing the 24th and 25th two weeks ago?

    The actual matching process only takes a few days.

  20. waitingforjoessister Says:

    Okay ladies and gentlemen, here is where we really concentrate on December being included in this batch and positive “speed up” vibes!!! I am not sure how much longer I can hang on.
    T
    LID 7-28-07

  21. waitingforjoessister Says:

    I mean LID 7-28-06 :-) ooops

  22. canjkn Says:

    I’m sending my vibes along with yours waitingforjoessister!

    LID 12/12/05

  23. Julenisse Says:

    Thank you for the update RQ. I surely appreciate it even if I don’t have any better clue now on when or how far…..

    This is really a frustrating time right now because all the late Nov and early Dec LID’ers are so close and yet so far away….

    Will it be September, will it be October, will it be November….who knows..

    Regards
    Beate
    LID Dec-8-2005

  24. afraine Says:

    Thank you RQ!!!! I know now not to look for until next week! 11/22/05

  25. CaelynsMum Says:

    RQ, well maybe it only SEEMS like two weeks! haha! Must be about week though since we heard that Nov 24 and 25 were looking good.

  26. RumorQueen Says:

    But just because they were looking good, it does not mean they had matched them. I may just mean that they knew how many baby files were there and knew they could get at least that far.

  27. 3xwait Says:

    Thanks, RQ. Most months I feel so optimistic, but this month hearing an agency say Dec. might be included just makes me sad. Not because I wouldn’t love for that to happen, but just because if it’s like the last few months it will just set us up for heartbreak. Let’s see, if an agency is saying into Dec., it probably means around the 25th. :(

  28. tochina4sara Says:

    RQ - the 24th and 25th as the cut-off or included in the next batch?

  29. gertiesquidge Says:

    Sorry to be dense - but when is Labor Day?

    Love
    Gertiesquidge
    UK DTC ~10th August 2007~
    http://offtochinaoneday.blogspot.com/

  30. crazy4emily Says:

    Labor Day is next Monday Sept 3.

  31. vicki Says:

    Labor Day is Monday September 3rd.

    Vicki

  32. redladybug Says:

    Monday, September 3 is Labor Day here in the US

  33. vicki Says:

    Does anyone know if July 2006 dossiers are out of review yet?

    Vicki

  34. lmm25 Says:

    is this the same european agency who said they would make it far into november last month? i hope not…

  35. chinagirl07 Says:

    tochina4sara, I think she may mean “included” because that’s what is stated in the first sentence. I don’t see any reference to a cut-off. Could be wrong-wouldn’t be the first time!

  36. mtonkinson Says:

    Why do we always think so small, I am praying for a cut off date of jan 4th. I am going to let myself run wild through the grass in barefoot and dream a little. Thanks RQ I work nights and can’t get out the door anymore without checking in.

  37. babyshae Says:

    I’m still thinking October for us but it just about sent me into tears to just see in print that Dec. “might” be included in this batch. I know better than to get worked up but it’s a great reminder that no matter what we’re getting close!
    Thanks RQ for always making us feel a little more connected to what’s happening.
    LID DEC 5/05
    My anti-spam word is Shamian. Maybe it’s a sign that I should go shopping today to get my mind off things :)

  38. anonymouswait Says:

    I’m curious - is it possible that the CCAA would make referrals for European agencies through December while still only referring November dates for North American agencies? Has that ever happened?

  39. rumorslave Says:

    anonymouswait~ no, not at all likely. I don’t think that has ever happened.

  40. rumorslave Says:

    RQ~ I was wondering also if the “european agency” you’re referring to was the same one who said “far into november” –we just to get such great info from some of the european agencies, it seems like that’s no longer the case.

    wondering.

  41. adventures Says:

    I’m counting on the 4th personally and would love for them to go into December but I wouldn’t count on it. The 24th or 25th seem more likely to me and I would love to be wrong on that!

    NEXT–11/22/05

  42. catherinethegreat Says:

    Wow…I can hardly wait for them to send out referrals. I still am hopeful that they will make it to the 28th…but sorry, I do not believe December (I wish for it though)…it just ain’t gonna happen.
    Hang in there.
    CTG November 23 2005…THANKFULLY NEXT

  43. waiting4kiera Says:

    I am going to join mtonkinson and “run wild through the grass in barefoot and dream a little” about CCAA getting into December. It’s a far fetched dream, but dreams never hurt!
    Anti-spam word is baby - lets see some babies!!!!!

  44. 3xwait Says:

    I ran through the grass barefoot last month. This month I’ll just sit on the sidelines and eat ice cream.

  45. afraine Says:

    I’ve eaten icecream AND EVERYTHING ELSE on the side lines the past 28 months!!!! I have put on about 30 pounds maternity weight!!!!! Next, thankfully!!!!! Time to loose that maternity weight SOON!!!!!:)

  46. afraine Says:

    P.S. PROUND 11/22/05 LOGGINER!!!

  47. tksimon Says:

    I was told today by a very reliable source that the matching is completed and waiting for signoff by the directors. Referrals are expected to arrive next week (assuming they are signed and sent this week). LID 11/22/05

  48. SanRN Says:

    cut off?????????(anyone??)

  49. afraine Says:

    Thanks tksimon! I’m couting on them next week if not this week. Shouldn’t count on anything but thats been the story all along so hopefully thats the way it will play out!

  50. ladybuginnebraska Says:

    Best Wishes, to ALL THE NEXTERS!!!! I am very EXCITED FOR YOU ALL. There is no better feeling than having a
    Picture of your precious Baby, I hope you get a suprise
    and they come earlier than expected.

    Wishing You All The Best!!!!

    LBIN ( Sindy)
    Lid 11/18/05
    Dor 08/02/07
    Ta 08/22/07
    Ca 08/24/07
    Metcha Day 09/09/07
    http://www.ost.redthreadkids.org

    Spam word..Hunan….Hold on Allie I’m comming!

  51. Campgirl14 Says:

    Hi ladybuginnebraska,
    I was just looking at all of your dates and I’m very excited for you. You are going so soon! I hope you have a great trip and that everything goes well. It must be so surreal. You are going to meet your baby soon!

  52. tochina4sara Says:

    tksimon - so if your source knows they’re done, can they tell you how far they got?

  53. ladybuginnebraska Says:

    Campgirl14, Thank you very much! It is so
    Surreal!!!! I have waited for this to time
    to come, my whole adult life. I dont know
    when your Lid is? But I wish you all the best!!

    LBIN ( SINDY) :-)

  54. GotchaBack Says:

    If December is in, that would be golden…….. and I will have a renewed faith in the seemingly impossible. BUT, do I actually believe that this will happen…….???? I’m game.
    Count me in…….. I’d rather be an optimist, so here’s to hopin’ for a Miracle.

    Shelley
    lid 3/28/06

  55. cab2 Says:

    I have heard a rumor from China that the CCAA have completed all paperwork up to December. I’m nervous posting this as I know that it is so hard to hear and then for it not to be true, but I did hear it from someone in China, so I thought I should post it here. Apologies in advance if it does not turn out to mean referrals for the rest of November. Hoping things really are speeding up to Feb 2005 and beyond LIDs and holding my breath for all the November LIDs….

    cab2

  56. hedge Says:

    cab2 -

    I sure hope you are right. I think the China adoption community could use the boost.

    Hedge
    11/28/05

  57. AmazingGrace Says:

    Well I am ready for bed! I am emotionally exhausted and feeling a bit depressed. My chicks left for college and I am again reminded about how quick time flies. Also I am hoping they complete November, but we are so use to be dissapointed. I am old, tired and growing greyer by the minute. I am treating myself to a tylenol PM! Maybe I will wake up and there will be some really terrific news. I think the whole china adoption community does need a boost!
    (spam word China! Yeah right, will I ever get there?)

    Impatient in PA
    12/14/05

  58. mumarlene Says:

    Hi Everyone…..isn’t it odd as “laboring mother’s and father’s to be” …we are approaching “Labor Day Weekend”……we have all been in labor to long…”push…push…push…for a late Nov or early Dec” matches…

    ……..lid March 17, 2006

  59. Becky Says:

    I know all of you late November families are soooooooo excited just being as close as you are. I really hope they match all of you! Beautiful little faces coming soon!!

    Becky
    LID 12-09-07

  60. bornfromtheheart Says:

    cab2 have you PM’d RQ with the real nitty gritty if there is more to know? Ohhh how exciting is this going to be if it’s for real. Common’ role on Labour pains…. I think November’s had it’s fair share to try and get through. Dec, Jan & Feb can’t wait to start contractions.:)

    Antispam word formula…does that mean baby food or trying to work out the CCAA method?

  61. buzzbuzz Says:

    i was at the ccaa on monday. it was very quiet in the review room. everyone launched themselves out of their chairs to see my daughter.

  62. skye06 Says:

    I wonder how often they get to see any of the kids in the flesh. Bet it’s a real treat for them. Nice. :-)
    MuMarlene, I was born on Labor Day! Groan. :-D

  63. bornfromtheheart Says:

    buzzbuzz, any particular reason or were you just spying for RQ???? LOL. I did not realise you were able to visit. Was this preplanned through an agency.
    How wonderful the CCAA payed your daughter attention.

  64. GotchaBack Says:

    buzzbuzz, that is just so wonderful. Skye06 HAPPY BIRTHDAY (to be of course)………. I also really need a boost……. suddenly I’m nursemaid to my aging Father after a surgery. If my baby would have arrived on time, this never would have happened……… I blame CCAA. I know I sound horrible, but he has a home, and a gold digging fianc’ee…… who won’t take care of him, so he’s here……..

  65. engdad Says:

    Loooong time reader, first time poster. It seems to me they might keep matching until they can finish the 2005 quota year through November 30. As someone who works with government administed programs, I see this done to allow for internal procedural changes.

  66. waitingforanna Says:

    Perhaps they are just going to send a batch later into September that includes all of November. Since many of us have to wait to travel until November anyway because of the trade fair maybe they are thinking there is not such a rush and that they should just try to finish November. Just a thought… what do you all think?

  67. RumorQueen Says:

    That’s not really the way matching works, you may want to read this link for more information

    http://chinaadopttalk.com/2006/12/07/how-the-matching-room-works/

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