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A second European Agency

A second European Agency is now saying “with almost complete certainty” that some of December will be in this batch.

This is a very reliable agency and they have my complete attention with this one.

They basically say that they are positive that the 24th is in, and can say “with almost complete certainty” that some of December will be in this batch.

This one gets an R3½

I absolutely hate it when people get their hopes up only to have them smashed on the rocks of reality. I hope that this doesn’t happen this time. But, there are two agencies saying it, and one of them has been reliable in the past.


 
 
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97 Responses to “A second European Agency”

  1. babystepstochina Says:

    Oh wow, I’m crossing my fingers. We need some good news around here!

    Good Luck to everyone!

    Our agency has an early Dec LID with our agency and I’m hoping they get good news soon!!

  2. babystepstochina Says:

    Ok I need coffee…sorry about that error…

  3. suenzig Says:

    and,,,,,,,,we’re up……… pass me another cupcake

  4. tryingtobepatient Says:

    Yeaaa, I soo hope this is true, my lid isn’t untill feb 07 and I just want to see some progress. Hopefully happy happy day for late nov early dec. congrats!!!!

  5. jj2china Says:

    OMG that would be sooooooo great.
    I agree though people shouldn’t get their hopes up at this point.

    B
    4/19/06

  6. sarah123 Says:

    Crazy train! We went from 25th not being in to some of December!!! My head is spinning. “with almost complete certainty” I can’t imagine them saying this without good reason but we always get our hopes up and then you know what happens. I SO want to be surprised in a happy way this time!!!

  7. tassiegirl Says:

    Pass me the barf bag - going UP!!!!!

    Tassie (who really should go to bed now….)

  8. Madi Says:

    I so hope this is true. Our LID is not until Feb 2006, but I have good friends with early Dec LIDs.
    This is going to be a long weekend.
    Just hoping for some good news…

  9. tochina4sara Says:

    I don’t know if I can take much more of this…. Actually, I can - let’s ride!

    To my December Peeps - Woooooooooooooo Hoooooooooo!

  10. AmazingGrace Says:

    Can someone explain to me how not to get my hopes up!? Seriously, because I don’t know how I can’t with a rumor like this one :) :)

    12/14/05

  11. threebluesteps Says:

    Oh geeez. I went to bed with a cutoff of 24th, and wake to this–and both sources are reliable kinds, too.

    My only way to reconcile these bits of info is this: the person with LID 11/25 who was told they were NOT included in this batch (& in the past that’s been solid cutoff info) is from the Netherlands. And the netherlands has some very speicific age restrictions (no less than 40 years age difference, etc.) — and I know of one Nov LID Netherlands person did not get her NSN referral in a recent batch because the CCAA matcher missed her countries age restrictions and she couldn’t accept. Another child was eventually found for her.

    With the wait getting longer, and many referrals seeming younger, perhaps this is a Netherlands issue (isloated), and the December referrals are true.

    I’m still preparing for that purple “November 24th”, though.

  12. GotchaBack Says:

    Well, this is the third time I’m trying to post this message, and as I retype it’s getting so darn old in my head. So, the edited, boring version of what I wanted to say, is if this were true, I’d be walking on H2O……. well air, whatever….. I’m so excited I have butterfiles in my stomach…… could be ladybugs.

    I am so in awe of those that are about to get some of the best news of their entire lives………. December, oh if it is only true…… I’m crying as I type. I am aware that I’ve entered the Rumor Realm at my own risk, but I have fastened my seatbelt, and I’m holding my breath……… I’m ready……. I believe, I believe, I do, I do, I do.

  13. Mom2Sammie Says:

    OMG! That would be awesome news! Keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck everyone who will/should be next!

  14. mlb75 Says:

    Ok, this is much better. At this point I am not going to believe anything this month until they arrive but I feel much better knowing that this rumor is still alive and out there.

  15. DragonMom Says:

    Oh man. and I did chocolate therapy yesterday.

  16. crazy4emily Says:

    My sister and mom have become RQ addicts the last week (hi guys!) and my sister called this morning to say Now don’t have a cow, but…

    MOOOOOOOOOOOOO there is a cow on the way. I know better than this to get this excited, but honestly it’s just so thrilling to see the word December!

    LID Dec 8, 2005!!!
    ps family was my spam word, which is fitting given my comment!

  17. magpiesmom Says:

    seeing a really positive rumor, right after a negative rumor, just before the likely mailing of referrals…

    It never bodes well.

    Eventually the patterns created the last year or so will break, but is this the month for it really?

  18. sdtoprc Says:

    I want to believe!! Really I do!!
    But….

    Juli
    LID 11/30/05

  19. penelope Says:

    This is my 1st time leaving a reply, sorry if it sounds stupid.

    I’m keeping my fingers crossed for everyone. I’m really hoping hoping that December is in this batch of referrals.

    Happy travels to anyone getting acceptance letters. And to everyone receiving their referrals — I’m so happy for you all.

    Rumor Queen, thank you for all you do!!

    Lisa (with a long wait….)
    LID 12.20.06

  20. Lilyannsmommy Says:

    now this is getting exciting!!!! Come on December AND to all of youend of Nov. folks—-this COULD be it!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cyndi LID 11/22/05

  21. canjkn Says:

    I would be so ecstatic if this were true! I, however, am not getting on this rollercoaster again. I’ll stand on the sidelines and wave as everyone goes by.

    Carrie
    LID 12/12/05

  22. 3xwait Says:

    ??? What a weird rumor month! Can’t wait to see how it all plays out.

  23. Nana2Livi Says:

    My thoughts are with all those who have LID’s late Nov. and early Dec. I truly, truly want to believe that his will be the month that referrals will start to speed up a little. Oh please, please, let this be true.

  24. threebluesteps Says:

    RQ - if this second Euro agency is positive that 24th is in and can say with almost certainty that some of Dec is included in this batch–then why would there be no mention of any other November dates (No 25, Nov 28. 30, etc) being “positively” in? Seemed odd to jump from 24th is definitely in to news of December, and no mention of the (considerable) Nov dates in between.

    The leap from 24th to December seems to jump over so much…

    (Unless the agency had a confirmed matching (earlier) up to Nov 24th, and they know that matching continues — ?)

    help.

  25. CaelynsMum Says:

    HAHA! This is great news! It would be wonderful to wrap up this wait with a bigger than usual match group.

    I can’t believe how many of you are on already…It’s only 5:30 am here. I thought there would be no new posts yet. Good morning!

    LID Nov 28/05

  26. hedge Says:

    11/28/05 here - I could kiss you! Now, no other rumors….just mail them following this rumor, okay?

  27. Calamity4e Says:

    WELL THIS IS ONE HECK OF A CUP CAKE GETTING PASSED AROUND!!!!!!

    What the heck am I suppose to do now? With this rumor? I have a hard enough time being productive at work on Friday– much less Friday before a 3-day weekend. Now THIS???????

    Let me second the, “MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” I saw on someone elses post.

    OHMIGAWD!

    I think I am delirious!

    Now I am going to spend the weekend pulling out my travel stuff and getting my lists in order– maybe make a few more purchases . . .

    OH BOY! If this rumor comes to pass . . . . . .

    :-D
    :-D
    :-D

    I have to breathe– in– out–in–out

    I think I am hyperventillating!

    Ok, now I have to go to the bathroom.

    TMI.

    LID 12/20/05

  28. Norwegiangirl Says:

    I really hope this is true and that we will finally see the end of November - coming into December I would at least feel that things are moving forward. I’m trying not to get my hopes up to much though, but at least this rumor put me in a good mood to enter the weekend :-)

  29. waitingforlibby Says:

    Please, please, please let this be true! How are we all going to make it through the long weekend?!?!

  30. xueshengmama Says:

    Woooo Hoooo. I know it’s not certain, but I’m getting on board with this one!!! (Forgot to guard my heart!)

    12-14-05

  31. waiting4kiera Says:

    Wow! Trying not to get my hopes up, but that’s really hard. If this is true, I am so happy for all the Nov/Dec LID’ers!!!

  32. Angel Says:

    I so hope for all of you that the rumor is correct. It’s about time for some good news and a turn around.

    It’s been a year since our referral, August 06, and it’s been the best year ever!

    Keeping good thoughts for all of you to see your babies this months.

  33. almostthere1 Says:

    Nope, not gonna bite on this one! Nada, nope you can’t make me. I won’t believe, I..won’t…believe, I …won’t…

    OMG - I’M NOT READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AT
    11/30/05 lid

  34. momtoGrace Says:

    Come on December!!! Please! Please! Please!

  35. waiting4kiera Says:

    almostthere1, you might want to get in gear quick!!! Woo hoo!! Anti-spam word is onesie. Have any of those yet??

  36. Angeleyes_72 Says:

    Wow what a roller coaster ride. Come one Dec!!

  37. waitingforlaurali Says:

    Whoooopiiii!!! FINALLY some good news (I hope). We’re LID 9/12/06 so to see some progress is wonderful.

    Does this mean that they MIGHT be referring more children since the last few days of November are so big and they are including December too? Oh I hope so…

    My anti-spam word is mama …Oh I want to be one so bad.

  38. scdelacruz Says:

    Good luck to all late Nov and early Dec LIDs. My prayers are with you!

    Susan - LID 6/10/06

  39. fjm Says:

    Oh, this one’s gonna hurt if it doesn’t pan out, especially after last night’s post. Thanks RQ for letting us know it’s out there!

  40. LinPatton3 Says:

    Dang it!! I BELIEVE!!!!! and that is just all there is to it!!!!!!!

    PS. Penelope…that was not a stupid post :-) welcome to this crazy but amazing ride!

    ~Linda

  41. waitingforruth Says:

    I have thought all along that I was in this batch (lid 11/24). But there has always been a little bit of well maybe not. That little bit of maybe not is gone this morning & for the first time I am crying with joy. I just want to see my baby. Thanks so much RQ for all the info you provide to us.

    Tassie girl: Do you ever sleep? :-)

  42. maranara Says:

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

    BIG hugs to all you Nov LIDs…I’m thinking about all of you :)

  43. Becky Says:

    HOPE, HOPE, HOPE…..!

    Becky

    12-09-05

  44. lmm25 Says:

    if they are going to match any of December than i would say the cut-off is dec 4, as the first big LID day in Dec (according to RQ polls) is Dec 5

  45. graceclaire Says:

    Our LID is not until March 7, 2005 - but….this is encouraging that at least we “might” be getting some of Dec. in this time. It makes me feel a little better that we have several more months this year to get thru Dec..and maybe even some of Jan…which just brings me closer to March. Are Dec, Jan, Feb big months? I know March is…but at least we are in the first week of it.

  46. mcwannab Says:

    For so many months so much (of my) energy has gone into “things will improve when they finish November”. I think I told myslef that I could finally stop being numb once they finished November, as I have held onto the belief that things will then start to speed up a little. I feel like so much is riding on the next few months. I feel a little bit of hope creeping back in and that totally makes me anxious. That 2 day batch really hit hard back in the spring, and I don’t want to fall into that hole again. Trying to not get excited here, but want to.

  47. momin2007 Says:

    I have to go to work! How am I going to keep myself together with this in my head!! This would be amazing!!! Good luck to all!!!!
    Michele
    08/29/06

  48. graceclaire Says:

    Even though our log in date is not until 3/7/05 - this is encouraging - we have several more months in 2007 so maybe we could get thru Dec and some Jan. Does anyone know how big Dec, Jan and Feb are? I know March is huge…but we are in that first week. I hope you early Dec folks are in this time!!!!!

  49. hockim2 Says:

    Wholy mackerel. Could it be true?????? The only way to know is to get through the extra long weekend. I thought getting one weeks worth of referrals would be great, especially with the 22nd being so large. Getting through a week and a half to two weeks would be a miracle. Are you ready for a miracle…ready as I can be. That’s how the song goes anyway.

  50. graceclaire Says:

    oppss…i mean 3/7/06. I should have Grace by now if it were ‘05…..darn, wish it was!

  51. RayinVA Says:

    I think, psychologically, getting through November 2005 will be a big boost.

  52. graceclaire Says:

    how long has Nov taken? I am kinda new to this site

  53. ChristineReal Says:

    I really hope that this European Agency is right…my batteries are very low these days and sure need to hear a good news.

  54. Sherry in Vermont Says:

    November 1st was referred in May. To the 7th was in June; the 14th in July; the 21st in August. So depending on whether you “count” May (since it was only one day), September (this next batch of referrals due next week) is the 4th or 5th month.

  55. 3xwait Says:

    Graceclaire, Nov. 1 was referred on April 30.

  56. WaitinginAZ Says:

    RayinVA..

    I am with you on that one… it will be very good boost,, to all of us….no matter when our LID’s are… We can only hope…

    We have friends that are already home with their daughters, some leave in 6 days for China, and some with Jan., Feb., Apr., and May of 06…. and we are all jumping up and down,,, that this rumor is TRUE!!!!!!

    WiAZ
    LID 12/19/05

  57. Sherry in Vermont Says:

    But weren’t the “April 30″ referrals the “May” batch?

    It’s not like there was another set of referrals in May… the “April” batch was in early April.

    Not that CCAA goes by the months anyway - it’s just the next batch, usually about 28-38 days between.

    Easier for us (me) to keep track of using months, though.

  58. dutchdeb Says:

    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG…… WAIT! How about last month? There was a rumour about ‘December is in’ as well.

    Well, I like this story better than the one about the 24th!
    I am going to make paella now (it is 5.30 pm here in Holland) and open a bottel of red wine. Here’s to the December-rumour! Cheers!

  59. Sherry in Vermont Says:

    While Nov 1st was referred on April 30th, it was part of the “May” batch of referrals. There was not another set of referrals in May.

    Not that CCAA goes by months anyway - they tend to send them about 24-28 days apart - it’s easier (for me) for batch purposes to count those as in May - otherwise one can think they did 2 batches in April and none in May, when they just keep rolling along at about a month between batches.

  60. grover Says:

    I’ve been off line since yesterday morning and all I can say is, “What the…”

  61. Sherry in Vermont Says:

    Oops, meant 24-38 days apart - first message I typed disappeared, and I hit the wrong keys.

  62. firewens Says:

    Would it be possible that China has mailed their packets today and some of the European agencies will start getting them on Monday? They don’t have Labor Day there do they?

    I am trying hard to stay off this roller coaster. I wanted some rumors but this is insane!!! :o)~

    Wendy
    LID 12/27/05
    http://adoptionandfire.typepad.com

  63. ionethesandbox Says:

    I don’t believe this for one second! I would love to, but I just don’t. I need to protect my heart.

  64. mlschot Says:

    while it is not my goal to bring the ride to the bottom, I did notice this comment over in the forum:

    Just heard from someone in a warm European country who says that there is no second source for the referral of December LIDs rumour, and that someone may have misunderstood (not misrepresented, but misunderstood). She says that in her country the R3.5 rumour posted on the blog this mornming is still not believed but that the 24th is “sure”

    This is in the Rumor thread.

  65. RumorQueen Says:

    A little clarification: apparently it is not two “agencies” saying this. One of them is an agency, the other is a company that helps families with their paperwork but doesn’t actually submit anything to China for the family.

  66. sewhopeful22 Says:

    Someone pass the Dramamine….

  67. mtmomma Says:

    WOE! This would be GREAT news! Hoping that it is true. I’m just a little concerned that this directly contradicts the last rumor of 11/25 NOT being in (I know that’s not exactly how it was worded, but that is how it read). How can one source be absolutely 100% correct and the other be absolutely 100% wrong? I realize there may be a misunderstanding, but still….

  68. sam Says:

    “How can one source be absolutely 100% correct and the other be absolutely 100% wrong?”

    wishful thinking, that’s how.

  69. demerle Says:

    RQ: Is the one agency still the one you consider “very reliable” and do you still rate this as a R 3.5?
    Thanks,
    Danielle LID 12/22/05

  70. RumorQueen Says:

    This rumor gets an R3.5 because of the way it comes to me. I am positive that the agencies in question are saying this.

    The other rumor gets an R3 because of the way it comes to me. It’s second hand information coming from a few people.

    I do not know which is right and which is wrong. If I had to guess I’d say it’s more likely that the cut off is the 24th than sometime in December. But that’s a guess, I don’t know.

  71. Guangdong Says:

    I am sorry but I do not believe this December rumor. There is no way they could come that far, and too-good rumors always tend to come right before.

    I believe the 22-23rd of November, and hopefully the 24th will be in - these are all huge days.

    I feel really calm about this.

  72. demerle Says:

    Thanks RQ,
    Danielle

  73. Silvia Says:

    hi today,

    - None agency in Spain tell information in their website of the possible cut off before they call their families.

    -talking about the post….none of both are agencies.

    take care,

  74. treefrog Says:

    O Please, Please, Please let this one be true!!!
    I want to see my sweet girl before 2008!!!

  75. lmm25 Says:

    the european site from yesterday which I believe is one of the sources of the RQ rumor today has been incorrect several times before…I noted their wrong info a few times when I scrolled through their past information

  76. mtmomma Says:

    sam: wishful thinking? Do you think someone would say this just because they were “wishful thinking?” I’m just trying to understand your post.

  77. ladybuginnebraska Says:

    It would be so nice to see the CCAA
    Get into Dec. I want to see my friends
    get their referral, only one month seperates
    us, and it could possibly take another 3-4
    more months for them to recieve their referral
    For the rest of my Nov buddy’s. I am pulling
    for you all!!!!!!! I want to see your referrals
    before I leave next week!!!!

    To Everyone, have a wonderful & safe Labor Day!!!!!

    LBIN
    Lid 11/18/05
    Dor 08/02/07
    Leaving for China on 09/06
    Metcha Day 09/09/07 ( The best birthday ever!!!!!)
    http://www.ost.redthreadkids.org

  78. Rochacha Says:

    First post ever…been watching and agreeing with you all for months now…

    With a LID of 12-20-05 I am genuinely getting excited now…but don’t tell my husband (he doesn’t even want to hear about the RQ site anymore)!

    We’ve all been burned by rumors gone wild, but we could ALL use some unexpected GREAT news!!!

  79. threebluesteps Says:

    THNAKS so much to RQ and to Sylvie for checking in and clarifying the little bits of hard-core information that we’ve had today! S much appreciated.

    P.S. What Sylvie meant above by “none of both are agencies’ is is “neither are agencies”.

    P.P.S. Some agencies expecting package on Tuesday.

  80. mumarlene Says:

    Greetings everyone…..It is days like today that I sit back and reflect about this entire process we all have been enduring…if this “Rumor” is so…..Rumor Queen you are wonderful in keeping our spirtits up during this long journey to all of our children….LID March 17, 2006

  81. mumarlene Says:

    …OPPPS…mispelled “Spirits”…honestly everyone..it is only 220 in the afternoon and I haven’t endulged in any……honest…

  82. afraine Says:

    threebluesteps!!!!!!!!!what in the world did I miss? Who said anything about anyone getting packages Tuesday???? Please clarify for me. 11/22/05!!!

  83. threebluesteps Says:

    Hi Afraine, see the 11/2005 room in the forum.

  84. hopesemper Says:

    I loved reading this post. I have an LID of 06/07/07 and a long wait ahead of me. Good luck everyone!

  85. Hutton'sMom Says:

    This weekend is going to be soooo long! I live to see the new referrals, it give me hope!
    LID 8/1/06

  86. afraine Says:

    I cannot get into the forum. WHO said referrals will be here Tuesday????????????? 11/22/05

    RQ, I don’t see where you posted this info. ANYONE! Come on, my referral is next, who has this info???? I’d love to know if our referral will be here Tuesday or next week for that matter. Please share info.

  87. KH Says:

    I love reading this also. I check it everyday(actually a couple of times a day). To hopesemper… my LID is 4/13/07. I’m glad there are others out there with a long wait. I get excited though for everyone else and LOVE it when good things happen. Good luck to everyone who is in the next batch!!!

  88. CWS Says:

    Afraine, the link to the forum is at the top right–just click the purple “forum” under “Site Navigation” to get to the public section. You’ll need to register to access the private section of the forum, which includes the LID rooms. To request to be added to the November 05 LID room, click “general discussion” and then post to the thread at the very top of that category with your request.

    Somebody in the Nov. ‘05 LID room said their agency had e-mailed that they had a package on the way from CCAA, they do not know whether it’s referrals.

    Hope this helps!

  89. CWS Says:

    Afraine, a couple of clarifications:
    The “general discussion” room where you can request to be added to a LID room is in the public section of the forum.
    If you want to register to access the private sections of the forum, please use the same username and password you used to register for the blog.

  90. Guangdong Says:

    KH, you check it a couple of times a day?
    I check it a couple of times or more per hour!
    ;-)

  91. afraine Says:

    Thank you CWS, I’m going to try it now!

  92. Becky Says:

    What a wonderful weekend ahead…I love the anticipation of waiting for referrals, and today is my anniversary, 34 years with the love of my life and patiently waiting for our 4th daughter. I love you Ronnie!

    Becky

  93. waiting4Ash Says:

    Has anyone ever used the computer game where you build your own rollar coaster?

    You can build a standard coaster or put things in it like cliffs and fire and when you are done you can run it and see if the riders survrive or not. We messed with it at Walt Disney World.

    I feel like I’m on the really demented one DH built.

  94. Boudicca Says:

    Same BS as every month. Crash and Burn.

  95. Boudicca Says:

    Y’all are still falling for this every month?

  96. jdb Says:

    Isn’t it just crazy that we’re all excited about the possibility of them doing 10 whole days?! I thought things were bad a year ago, but looking back from where we are now, a year ago looks pretty great. 18 or 19 days in a batch? It’s like an impossible dream now, isn’t it? So sad. All my pessimism aside, I do hope they get into December for the sake of all you late 2005 people!

  97. GotchaBack Says:

    Almost there………. too funny……… “I’M NOT READY”….,
    you made me laugh with your 11/30 lid, I think you said……………. OMG……… BUT you’ll do fine…….. it’s gotta be through the 30th, my prediction, AND, I think you’re with my agency………… brings me so many groups closer to my turn…..
    Shelley
    lid 3/28/06

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