Comments on: And now it is September http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/ Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and then analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next. Mon, 21 May 2012 16:04:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: waitinginPNW http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41673 waitinginPNW Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:39:16 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41673 What I don't understand is why on earth would the CCAA continue to accept dossiers? Why would they want to have such a huge backlog of waiting parents? It seems like it would be more ethical to close the line when it reaches a certain point - like maybe 20,000 (a 2 year wait). That way people could pursue other options. We've been waiting for almost 21 months and it's really wearing on us. Even thought we're relatively close to referral so much changes in 2 years time. We're really growing tired of all this. What I don’t understand is why on earth would the CCAA continue to accept dossiers? Why would they want to have such a huge backlog of waiting parents? It seems like it would be more ethical to close the line when it reaches a certain point – like maybe 20,000 (a 2 year wait). That way people could pursue other options.

We’ve been waiting for almost 21 months and it’s really wearing on us. Even thought we’re relatively close to referral so much changes in 2 years time. We’re really growing tired of all this.

]]> By: Calamity4e http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41579 Calamity4e Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:45:38 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41579 All I can say is that the 25th is better than the 22nd-- which is what I was expecting for this month. The 25th is at least one day better than the 24th. Does this put us at the mid-case scenario? Hopefully, referrals will get through the end of November next month. Regarding what Chinasyndrome says-- I don't know about China not having any intentions of the all the folks already in line not gettting a child from China-- it does appear that with the increasing waits, China/CCAA would expect for many parents to switch from the China program. Regarding not believing what the CCAA says about their IA program and wait times. I have to say-- I believe what Chinasyndrome says. I have a few friends who were born/raised in China who now live in the USA. All of them have said that you can't believe what the government says. I don't know that this is all that much different from us being able to believe all that the US government says. Regarding the adoption agencies knowing what is going on and not telling current and prospective families-- I really hope that is not true. Unforseen changes in IA is one thing. An agency has not control over that. Knowing about future changes and not telling current/prospective parents is flat out fraud. I can't imagine that a wholde host of IA agencies in the US and abroad would collectively take such a risk. The liability of a class action suit against all the other agenices if just one agency came forward is huge. And, I think it would be more likely that at least one agency would state the truth than ALL the agencies remain quiet. LID 12/20/05 . . . Christmas??? All I can say is that the 25th is better than the 22nd– which is what I was expecting for this month.

The 25th is at least one day better than the 24th. Does this put us at the mid-case scenario?

Hopefully, referrals will get through the end of November next month.

Regarding what Chinasyndrome says– I don’t know about China not having any intentions of the all the folks already in line not gettting a child from China– it does appear that with the increasing waits, China/CCAA would expect for many parents to switch from the China program.

Regarding not believing what the CCAA says about their IA program and wait times. I have to say– I believe what Chinasyndrome says. I have a few friends who were born/raised in China who now live in the USA. All of them have said that you can’t believe what the government says. I don’t know that this is all that much different from us being able to believe all that the US government says.

Regarding the adoption agencies knowing what is going on and not telling current and prospective families– I really hope that is not true. Unforseen changes in IA is one thing. An agency has not control over that. Knowing about future changes and not telling current/prospective parents is flat out fraud. I can’t imagine that a wholde host of IA agencies in the US and abroad would collectively take such a risk. The liability of a class action suit against all the other agenices if just one agency came forward is huge. And, I think it would be more likely that at least one agency would state the truth than ALL the agencies remain quiet.

LID 12/20/05 . . . Christmas???

]]> By: dutchmomtobe http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41572 dutchmomtobe Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:38:03 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41572 unfortunately I must agree with chinasyndrome. all Dutch people agree I guess, because in our country it has been in the newspapers and in the news that adoption from China will be a thing if the past soon. somewhere between now and 5 years nsn adoption from China will be over. and 5 years further down the line also sn adoption will be over. you never know what will happen in the future of course, but if things stay the way they are then the signing of The Hague convention apparently meant: more domestic adoption within China and less to none international adoption in the future. unfortunately I must agree with chinasyndrome.
all Dutch people agree I guess, because in our country it has been in the newspapers and in the news that adoption from China will be a thing if the past soon. somewhere between now and 5 years nsn adoption from China will be over. and 5 years further down the line also sn adoption will be over.

you never know what will happen in the future of course, but if things stay the way they are then the signing of The Hague convention apparently meant: more domestic adoption within China and less to none international adoption in the future.

]]> By: mlb75 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41568 mlb75 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:31:17 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41568 chinasynrome, you seem to speak with authority, not posing your post as possibilities but as fact. Do you have some information we don't have or are you just saying what you think/feel? chinasynrome, you seem to speak with authority, not posing your post as possibilities but as fact. Do you have some information we don’t have or are you just saying what you think/feel?

]]> By: samsfamily http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41567 samsfamily Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:30:26 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41567 What a way to start the day. But congratulations to those of you that got your referrals!!!!! What a way to start the day. But congratulations to those of you that got your referrals!!!!!

]]> By: chinasyndrome http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41566 chinasyndrome Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:48:13 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41566 I'm very sorry, but there will be no speedup after the Olympics or otherwise. China has no intention of referring more than 300-400 NSN children (some months probably a lot less than that) a month, and any speedup would be a step backward to where they want to take their IA program in their mind. So many of you should never have been put in this line. Please see my post post at the beginning of this discussion. And please, please, please -- do not hang on every word your agencies or the the CCAA says. The CCAA's recent trip to the U.S. was nothing but a diplomatic dog-and-pony show. We've had some very spot-on info. and advice (from outside the CCAA-agency realm) That advice: Never listen to what China/CCAA says. It means nothng. Watch what they do. And then act accordingly. We gave our agency 1 year on the slim chance that things might turn around (though our agency knew things would only get worse). Now we're telling what we've known for months -- sorry agency -- but you knew the deal. I hope all of you find your child -- somewhere. But China has no intention of giving everyone in the current NSN line (25-30-40 thousand families) a child. I'm so very sorry about this. I’m very sorry, but there will be no speedup after the Olympics or otherwise. China has no intention of referring more than 300-400 NSN children (some months probably a lot less than that) a month, and any speedup would be a step backward to where they want to take their IA program in their mind. So many of you should never have been put in this line. Please see my post post at the beginning of this discussion. And please, please, please — do not hang on every word your agencies or the the CCAA says. The CCAA’s recent trip to the U.S. was nothing but a diplomatic dog-and-pony show. We’ve had some very spot-on info. and advice (from outside the CCAA-agency realm) That advice: Never listen to what China/CCAA says. It means nothng. Watch what they do. And then act accordingly. We gave our agency 1 year on the slim chance that things might turn around (though our agency knew things would only get worse). Now we’re telling what we’ve known for months — sorry agency — but you knew the deal. I hope all of you find your child — somewhere. But China has no intention of giving everyone in the current NSN line (25-30-40 thousand families) a child. I’m so very sorry about this.

]]> By: maisey13 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41565 maisey13 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:07:40 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41565 Nov 25!?!?! I guess the European agency that said "Dec is in with almost certainty" knows as much as the rest of us...nothing. Congrats to all those who made the cutoff. To everyone still waiting, keep hope alive...we will get our turn! Maisey13 LID December 26, 2005 Nov 25!?!?! I guess the European agency that said “Dec is in with almost certainty” knows as much as the rest of us…nothing. Congrats to all those who made the cutoff. To everyone still waiting, keep hope alive…we will get our turn!

Maisey13
LID December 26, 2005

]]> By: dady2xinand? http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41564 dady2xinand? Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:29:23 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41564 Congrats to all the new parents. I'm sorry for all the rest of november and early december, but you are next, stay positive. LID 14 Feb. '06 Congrats to all the new parents. I’m sorry for all the rest of november and early december, but you are next, stay positive.

LID 14 Feb. ’06

]]> By: onemoregirl http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41563 onemoregirl Mon, 03 Sep 2007 05:25:45 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41563 SO SO strange...we knew before RQ~ isn;t it usually a few days AFTER that they update the site?!? Man will RQ be surprised when she wakes up tommorow! SO SO strange…we knew before RQ~ isn;t it usually a few days AFTER that they update the site?!? Man will RQ be surprised when she wakes up tommorow!

]]> By: sharingjoy http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/comment-page-2/#comment-41562 sharingjoy Mon, 03 Sep 2007 05:22:17 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/09/01/and-now-it-is-september/#comment-41562 I just read the CCAA site and the cut off for the next referrals is listed as November 25! I just read the CCAA site and the cut off for the next referrals is listed as November 25!

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