Still no rumors of substance
Yet another agency is saying they expect referrals to be mailed before the CCAA breaks for their National Day Holiday.
One agency has said that they are working on matches right now.
One agency reports that the CCAA says that they have not matched farther ahead than they are mailing.
Two agencies have acknowledged that the CCAA has matched much farther ahead than they have mailed and that the question for this batch isn’t one of how far they will match but how many of them they will actually mail.
One European agency has assured one of their Nov 28 families that they will be in this batch. Please note that they do not say this is the cut off, they are only assuring this family that they’ll be in. I think we all expect the 28th to be included so it’s not really news, but its out there so I’m reporting it.
Other than that, I haven’t seen any agencies speculate on a cut off date. I’ve been asked to speculate on why this may be.
In the past agencies got information from their matcher about what date they’ve matched through. Since we have several agencies reporting that they’ve matched a lot farther than they’ve mailed (some say through December, some say into 2006) then it makes sense that agencies can no longer ask their matcher about this and get an accurate answer for the next cut off date. They get an answer for how far they have matched, but that doesn’t tell us how far the next batch will go.
Which leads me back to the fact that there are only rumors about the when, and none at all about the how far.
September 26th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Thank you RQ!
I’m on tenterhooks here, but this info should be enough so I can sleep tonight.
:)
September 26th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Thanks RQ! Thank you! Thank you!
I check this site daily, sometimes multiple times a day, for news, updates, rumors, etc. I cannot imagine how lost and in the dark I would feel if not for you. Thanks for being there for us!!
Susan
Atlanta
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September 26th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
August is OUT of Reveiw!!
Check the CCAA site, Congrats Aug folks!
Susan
Atlanta
September 26th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Yeah, August!!!!! Now why can’t they just move a little further down and change the date of referral?
September 26th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
This is a bit off subject, but my wife heard a rumor from another family that adopted from China that the CCAA was looking to open up more orphanages to IA, which would obviously make more babies that need families available. This is our second adoption from China and obviously the time from LID to referral have dramatically increased (It was 7 months for us with a 7/29/04 LID). Has anyone else heard anything similar? Thanks
September 26th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
I’ve heard the rumor of new orphanages opening up for a year now, it hasn’t affected the wait that I’ve seen, but I think there are indeed new orphanages on line and referring kids now.
September 27th, 2007 at 1:13 am
Thanks RQ. I hope there’s more info tomorrow :)
September 27th, 2007 at 1:17 am
Hey babeyshae,
Your up late too!
Adomom
September 27th, 2007 at 5:54 am
Any ideas as to why they don’t mail EVERYTHING they have matched?
September 27th, 2007 at 7:17 am
after reading: (some say through December, some say into 2006) …I was in sock…. please let it be true. The review is now up to august 31… Earlier this year in a conference with my agency, a Chinease representant had told us that the CCAA did not like having to many people in front of the matching room door!!!!! What are they doing then!!!!…because end of november 2005 up to august 2006…that seem to be a lot of people..so why are they not moving on?????
September 27th, 2007 at 8:02 am
Not knowing the cut off (even just rumors of the cut off) is soooo making me crazy!! Oh well…I’ll take heart that referrals should be mailed in the next few days. YAY!
September 27th, 2007 at 8:11 am
” . . . the CCAA has matched much farther ahead than they have mailed and that the question for this batch isn’t one of how far they will match but how many of them they will actually mail.”
I find this concerning. Why would the CCAA want to hold back referrals if they have matched so far ahead? Would this be because they were not able to match this far ahead for all the agencies? It seems like they might have been able to process a few more LIDs for all agencies than to match so far ahead for less than all agencies.
But, I don’t know exactly how things are set-up in the matching room either.
It is sad to think that some babies have been matched but have to wait a bit longer until all the agencies are matched with babies.
I wonder if this is what has happened with the one *mystery* agency.
Honestly, I think I would rather that the CCAA send out referrals for all those that are matched regardless of if all LIDs get matched or not.
They could finish off the LIDs with the next month’s batch.
Just get the babies to thier families ASAP. I think that would be better for the babies.
LID 12/20/05
September 27th, 2007 at 8:14 am
What are the dates of the National Holiday?
Anyone know?
September 27th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Before this post, I’ve never seen anything that would indicate that the CCAA did not mail referrals for all matches as soon as the matches were made. Does anyone know whether there is there any precedent for this? Any speculation as to why the CCAA wouldn’t mail all matches as soon as they were made?
September 27th, 2007 at 8:36 am
Some of you must have missed this post:
chinaadopttalk.com/09/19/……..rumors-and-ratings/
September 27th, 2007 at 8:38 am
Well if matchers are matching far ahead and giving the information to the agencies about how far THEY personally have matched that would explain the wild rumours each month.
If I am Matcher for Agency A and the agency calls and says how far have you matched I say “December 20, 05″. The agency calls their families before that date and says “keep your cell phone on”. Meanwhile the other Matchers only get to December 10, 05. So when the files finally get mailed the cut off is December 10, 05. We hear December 20 but only get December 10.
If this scenario is correct it explains a lot.
B
4/19/06
September 27th, 2007 at 8:42 am
In the past the matching room has operated as a single unit, with no matchers getting ahead of anyone else. You can read the link under the Important Posts section about how the matching room works for more information.
September 27th, 2007 at 8:50 am
I would like to think the silence means they are too busy matching and referring and putting packages together to call the agencies!
September 27th, 2007 at 8:52 am
Last year there was talk that a speed-up may happen in Oct or Nov? due to the beginning of China’s new fiscal year. While it did not happen, is there any possibility that a new “quota” would be in place to allow them to mail more referrals in the next few months? Or are we thinking they are working with a calander year and we will have to wait till January to see any chance of improvement? I realize I am grasping at straws here.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:14 am
zhaonuer - I’m seeing some hints coming from agencies about this.
But, when might they start sending those extra referrals?
I believe the State Dept numbers go from October 1 to September 30, so if they were worried about those numbers they could have started referring them out last month (since the numbers count visas issued, and that happens when you are in China, not at referral).
The CCAA’s fiscal year is from December 1 to November 30, but the question is when do they count the numbers? At referral or when the adoption is final in the province? If they do it when the adoption is final then we may see things speed up next month. If it is done at referral then it would be the December batch.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Please, oh please, oh please be now!!!!!!!!!
September 27th, 2007 at 9:30 am
Wow, this ‘new’ matching could really explain a lot of the bizarre activity we’ve been seeing. Seems like the matching room is working a bit like the review room… each matcher matches what he or she can, but they only send out the date of the slowest matcher.
While that sucks, I guess they might not want any agencies lag behind, so they opt to make the front runners wait. Could be that “mystery agencies” matcher didn’t get that memo and let out what shouldn’t have been let out… sounds like the case for the Euro. agency for sure.
All very confusing, but it would answer many unknowns and perhaps be the start of something new. Hopefully in a good way!!!
September 27th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Is it possible that they are matching to some sort of quota so that by the end of the year they have only matched a particular number (i.e., 10,000 babies worldwide)??
It is odd that they wouldn’t refer those babies that are matched, though, because that means that the babies are that much older by the time they are actually referred. OR maybe that is another explanation - maybe the babies are really young and they are purposely holding off until they are closer to a year old?
Or maybe I am just out to lunch??
September 27th, 2007 at 11:36 am
I seems I remember something quite awhile back that Guangzhou, Guangdong officials (medical, passport, visa, etc.) were getting swamped with adoption work, and asked the CCAA to slow it down. Is this right? I know that would only affect Americans because Guangzhou is the exit lane for US adoptions. But could it be that the limited numbers of referrals, despite the larger matched batches, reflect a desire to limit the number of crowds in the police offices, etc. at any given time?
This is just a thought. I don’t have any concrete info.
Petnjay
September 28th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
I heard about a possible speed up coming soon too. Does this have anything to do with the Olympics? That they’re going to speed up earlier in the year to get more referrals done because they’ll pause on referrals during the Oympics?