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Nothing really newThe Spanish site is saying the 12th is the cut off. They are saying it is a fact. Again, they’ve been wrong a lot, I hope they are right this time, but I would not take this to the bank just yet. I do not have any information that says different, I’m just not wanting people to think it’s a sure thing when I’m not seeing that. At least one American agency is expecting referrals to arrive this week, but most seem to be hoping they are mailed this week. 
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October 29th, 2007 at 7:37 am
Well, the european site (that we don´t think ever has been wrong, but it´s has been not understanding because off the translation) doesn´t say that the cutt off is 12th. They say that they are sure now that the 12th is in:
“Aumentamos a 10, la valoración que las familias con fecha de registro en el CCAA el dia 12 sean asignadas éste mes.
A partir de ahà no estamos autorizados a dar detalles pero es muy posible que ésta semana nos llevemos una gran alegrÃa.”
“We give a 10 valoration to the rumor that the families with lid in 12th are going to be in this month.
We are not autorished to give more details but it is very posible that we will have a good sourprise this week”
RQ, I think you do a great job for all of us, but we really trust also in our site and they also do a great, great job with very interesting information for all the people who don´t speak in english. I wanted to tell it to you just because there are a lot of families who trust in this site too.
Thank for your job and for share so many time giving information for all of us
October 29th, 2007 at 7:47 am
Thanks for the update RQ. We missed you this past weekend!
Emmalinemom
LID 12/8/05
October 29th, 2007 at 8:07 am
Thanks RQ, guess we will have to wait and see….
October 29th, 2007 at 8:26 am
let’s hope the spanish are right this time…
it would be great if CCAA will finish 2005 this year
karen
the netherlands
http://members.chello.nl/r.pepol
October 29th, 2007 at 8:28 am
let’s hope the spanish are right this time
it would be great if CCAA will finish 2005 this year
karen
the netherlands
http://members.chello.nl/r.pepol
October 29th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Interesting. This would fit with the theory (floated somewhere recently) that CCAA is trying to hit 2-year waits, but not exceed. If they referred 1/2 of Dec. in November, then the other 1/2 of Dec. in December…voila, a 2-year wait. And then they can refer a month at a time again.
A girl can dream, right? :-)
October 29th, 2007 at 8:51 am
Nice dream kiskoma, I wouldn’t bet the bank on it though.
I can live with 12 days, but I am not setting my heart on anything until I see that website change.
B
4/19/06
October 29th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Any idea what the current situation is for SN LIDS who are matched by the CCAA and not an agency waiting child or SN list? Any news would be really good.
Jane
UK
October 29th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Well so far the only rumors out there are the 12th. It seems like the rumor mill is slowing down a bit, or is it just me?
October 29th, 2007 at 9:02 am
Since when is 12 half of 31? (Dec 1-12 is about 40% if the December LIDs in the most recent poll) Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be very happy if they are able to make it through the 12th in this batch. It just worries me to see a lot of people seeming to get their hopes up that this means they’ll finish 2005 by the next batch after this, and I just don’t think the numbers support that, even if this is a bigger batch. (the next one would have to be even bigger)
October 29th, 2007 at 9:15 am
It’s making me crazy that this is the only rumor out there. I wish someone else would have some other tidbit of info, so I don’t get TOO excited about this one!!
October 29th, 2007 at 9:16 am
Hello RQ and all you waiting families. My wife and I have been logged in since 10/13/06. When I see that CCAA may have gone out almost 2 weeks it does get me excited. However this coming January we will be 2 years since we went to contract with our agency and this whole addoption process seems like it is not even real anymore. I speak with families who have been through the system and they say CCAA at one time would do 30,40 days at a clip. Please I pray for the day they can return to that.
Any word on the review room updates….
Thanks
Matt
L I, NY
October 29th, 2007 at 9:22 am
I hope they are right, I hope they are right, oh please let them be right!
JEBMBC
October 29th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Where are you from on LI Matt? We are on LI too.
Sandra
October 29th, 2007 at 9:33 am
We met with our social worker last week and she strongly feels that the wait time will be at two years as of the first of the year. I hope she’s right!
October 29th, 2007 at 9:36 am
The 12th/13th rumor makes me a little more hopeful that the one about the 10th at least is right…of course the more days/# of babies the better!
anti-spam word, diapers :D I can’t wait to buy some for a teeny-tiny tushie!
Tracy
LID 1-12-06
October 29th, 2007 at 9:53 am
I think the 10-12th is reasonable to expect…but I agree with Pam…this only represents about 40% of December…so please do not get your hopes up that December will be finished in December…I just do not see THAT happenning (thougth I wish it could..)…the hardest part of this process is the NOT knowing…I just wish some predictability would happen again….it was there for over the summer (the November group was able to predict very well about things)..but last month took many of us by surprise (shock).
Take care. CTG…..
October 29th, 2007 at 10:10 am
FromSpain - you don’t think they’ve ever been wrong?
Back in August I had reports of people with LID’s of the 24th and 25th saying that they were going to be in that batch. Here are my blog posts
http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/08/18/first-rumor-2/
http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/08/19/goin-up/
And here is the Spanish site’s response:
First, they slam me and call me a commercial site. This is rich, considering they are on a free service with no expenses and they have resorted to pop up and pop under ads? They have zero expenses, it doesn’t cost them anything to host the site! Why do they need ads at all! And especially, why go the route of pop up ads? And the fact that they started out their site by using my graphics and passing them off as their own? No, I’m sorry, but I don’t have much respect for them.
And second, they state that their “contact” has confirmed that the cut off is going to be more generous than that. Which, as we know, it was not.
This site is not “always” right. They’ve hit it right a few times, but I’ve seen them wrong a lot more than they are right.
And then there is this thread,
http://chinaadopttalk.com/2007/05/31/european-rumors/
where the site in question informed everyone that a European site had received referrals. I refuted that and said TA’s should be arriving but not referrals, but people argued with me that it wasn’t a rumor, that it was fact, and that this site was correct. As it turned out, the site was not correct, and the agency had not received referrals.
There have been many months that the site in question has said something that they were “sure of” that did not happen. Yes, they have been right a few times, but they have been wrong a lot. And they’ve been wrong when they were “sure” of what they were saying.
And, every time I point this out, the site slams me and says untruths about me. I’ve tried to just not talk about them, following the “if you can’t say something nice” rule, but it’s starting to get ridiculous.
I would not say that they aren’t “always right” if that weren’t the case.
Think about this - what I do here is help figure out which rumors have substance and which do not. So, as part of that, when a rumor comes in that I don’t think we can depend on, I have to say that. It would be wrong of me to pretend it is a credible rumor when I don’t really think that it is. I’m sorry if some of you are taking it personally that I don’t give this Spanish site much credibility, but that’s just the way it is. If they start being right more than they are wrong then I will give them more credibility. But right now, I haven’t seen that.
I do not know what this next cut off will be. There are a few American agencies who are being pretty optimistic as well (one saying the 9th is in and one saying the 10th is in), but as of now there is nothing to make me think it is a for sure thing that the cut off will be the 12th or beyond. No cut off rumor is higher than an R2 with me at this point.
Maybe it will be the 12th, I don’t know. I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong this time, I’m saying I don’t see anything credible yet. That’s the point, I’m not personally seeing anything that makes me think it is a for sure thing.
October 29th, 2007 at 10:21 am
All I need is 7 days to be in this batch, but I’m REALLY hoping for atleast the 10th or the 12th, so that MORE of December will be included in this batch.
C’mon CCAA…show us some double digits this month!! :)
October 29th, 2007 at 10:24 am
If it is the 12th….is this a big deal??? Aside from having a larger batch that usual as far as days go….
Just trying to see where it all fits in…
October 29th, 2007 at 10:29 am
In logic we should speed up ( I will not hold my breath or get to excited till it does though). It all slowed down for the most part from what I understand because of all of the families that applied for adoption in those months. There were alot of LID’s in the previous months. A baby boom you may call it. Dec 05 and Jan. & Feb. 06 there are from what I have read only 60% of families with LIDs give or take compared with those months.
So in theory we should see a speed up.
LID 2-13-06
October 29th, 2007 at 10:38 am
Can’t we all just get along
Here is HOPEING for as many days of December as possible..
My anti spam word is mama :) that makes me smile.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Get ‘em RQ! I am so tired of people talking badly about you on their websites! Enough already! We are all in this together to do the same thing looking for the same information LEAVE RQ ALONE!!!!!! She ROCKS!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Well I am hoping the “Spanish” site is correct. I don’t understand why you (Rumor Queen) are so upset that their are now alot of families checking the “Spanish” site before they check yours. I would think we are all in this together and we all should work together for the common goal, getting information to waiting families all over the globe. Yes, I realize these are all rumors, your board and theirs, but you have to remember the desperation you felt during your wait. Thankfully, you didn’t have to wait 2 years or more like the rest of us will. I also don’t understand why there is competition about who was right, how many times they are wrong, etc. And as far as their “be nice policy”, you also have “restrictions” that we all must follow on your site, or else you will get banned. I had a good friend get banned from your site. At least you can’t get banned from the Spanish Rumor Queen. I would think their is room for both of you. I know you work very, very hard and I hope you know we all appreciate it. It’s just unsettling to see you so defensive. We all have enough love and respect for you both!
October 29th, 2007 at 11:17 am
RamFam - have you read any of what has been said?
They are slamming me. I’ve tried ignoring it, but it has reached the point that I can no longer do that.
I don’t consider them a credible source. That’s nothing personal against anyone, it’s just that I’ve seen them be wrong too many times to consider that they are right just because they say they are right. And I’m being slammed for saying that. So, I had to defend myself against it. I’ve tried to ignore it, that wasn’t working. So, I’ve shown just a little bit of why I don’t consider them credible. People can choose to believe whatever they want, but I will hold to my standards, which is being honest about what I feel is credible and what is not credible.
This has nothing to do with any silly “competition”. I would love to have another credible source we can all go to. And if one pops up, I’ll be the first to point it out. We used to have Tater, did I ever have a problem talking about how accurate Tater was? No, I didn’t. It’s not a silly competition. This is me rating rumor sources and getting slammed for doing so.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:20 am
And, as for people being banned, yes, we ban troublemakers here. There are very clear rules, and if people are very clear that they have no intention of following the rules, they are banned. That’s true. And it is true on most sites that are not a “free for all”.
No one can be banned from that site because they do not pay for their own server space. They can keep comments from showing up, but they cannot outright ban people. They do not have that ability.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Of course there is room for both sites! NO ONE is saying not to go there! Just that they are NOT always right, despite their claims.
The issue with me is that the Spanish site is NOT honest. They claim to be sure, claim they are and have always been right, and that is NOT true. I would put more faith in that site if they were able to admit they have been wrong in their “sure” predictions. RQ does not claim to have always been right - but to my knowledge she has NEVER said something is a sure thing unless it truly was.
And the folks claiming RQ banned them - IF they were banned, they deserved it - if they’d read the FAQs, they’d know why. Or just RQ why? I don’t think RQ bans people without telling them why. If they say they are banned without knowing why, maybe it’s really a server issue on *their* end - that does happen, you know! And from what I understand, if you are banned, after a week you can ask RQ to come back.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Thanks for all you do, RQ! I think people just want the 12th to be in so badly that they’re defensive when they hear it’s not a sure thing. Keeping my fingers crossed for a big batch. Good luck to all December LIDs!
October 29th, 2007 at 11:28 am
I remember when this site started up and I searched it for rumors. Most of what was on the site was a direct quote from RQ and when it was not a direct quote it was worse. I went to the site and the graphics WERE THE SAME AS HERE. that was pretty sleazy and was done without any credits to the source.
Sure, the spanish site probably has sources that we do not have and we have sources that they do not have. This is not a competition but it sure would be nice to credit your source if you are going to steal their graphics.
Don’t waste your breathe justifying your actions RQ. People will believe what the want and it just is not worth the effort. Do what you do and let the chips fall where they may.
BTW,
I appreciate all you do.
AW
October 29th, 2007 at 11:31 am
It’s unfortunate that we have a few people on this site who read negatives into any given post. There is no competition. Read who you want to read. None of us knows the facts when others are banned except those involved. I appreciate the work and care RQ puts into these posts and am looking forward to receiving my referral soon. LID 12/5/05
RQ ROCKS!
October 29th, 2007 at 11:33 am
Bottom Line - Don’t mess with our Rumor Queen! She Rocks!! With out you, some of us have nothing to keep us informed! Do what you want RQ - it’s your site!!
October 29th, 2007 at 11:36 am
I was so happy to tell my friend she can ask the rumor queen to get back into the forum, I called her. She was not able to send an e-mail to you because she is banned. So I am asking on her behalf to allow her to join again. She has been banned for way over 1 week. She actually has a December 05 lid and would like to join that group. She was known as AmazingGrace on your site. Thanks so much!
October 29th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Just a reminder, we are in RQ’s living room. Her rules apply! Make nice.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:45 am
waitingforlibby - I would LOVE for the 12th to be in. We haven’t had a batch that big in a long time (using poll numbers) so this would be a huge pick-me-up if it is true, and this community could really use a nice sized pick-me-up right about now.
And, I’m not saying it’s not in. Please don’t think that. I’m just saying that I personally am not seeing anything to point to it being a sure thing.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:47 am
I know everyone is worried about referrals right now, but have we heard any rumors about the Review Room???
Thanks,
Matt
October 29th, 2007 at 11:49 am
ramfam - there is no one registered in the forum (that I can find) under that name, and thus no one has been banned in there under that name.
There is someone out here on the blog with that name, but the blog does not have a ban option.
Also, being banned from the site does not mean you cannot email me, my email is through gmail, so it does not make sense that she cannot email me.
October 29th, 2007 at 11:51 am
As far as getting banned on this site, it is not all that easy to do. I have posted a few times where I thought I had a little too much edge on my post. thought sure I was heading for a spanking. did not happen.
You really need to mess up pretty good to get banned from here and you almost always will be allowed back (once anyway). The exception to that is when a post is so against the rules that it cannot be ignored and then you are banned. We warn and discuss most of the time. Of course if you are a spammer or commercial entity, you are gone pretty quick.
I know I thought I was banned more than once and I am still here.
As far as this rumor on the other site, RQ is telling you to guard your hearts. That is all. Do not read more than what is there.
AW
October 29th, 2007 at 11:52 am
RQ, any word ref to the review room, it has been over a month since they finished August/06 and we are LID 10/13/06.
Thank you
Matt and Laura
Farmingville, LI NY
October 29th, 2007 at 11:53 am
ramfam - YOU are amazinggrace!!!!
amazinggrace url
http://www.urlramellafamily.blogspot.com/
your url
http://http/www.ramellafamily.blogspot.com
Both have been messed up so they don’t work, but the main part is the same. And the IP addresses also match up as being from the same ISP.
wow- talk about being deceptive
October 29th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
Sorry if I change the subject, but I just call my very small only china agency and it confirms to me that December 15 will not in for this month. They don’t have others LID in December.
Reglissoly
LID 03/15/06
October 29th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
There.
Now that we have resolved that.
Where is my LOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AW
October 29th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Hmm, ramfam is also GraciesMom
I’ll keep looking, but we have a very clear rule here about not using multiple user names.
October 29th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Reglissoly - thank you very much for that info
October 29th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Geeze it all makes sense now huh RQ?
Unbelievable!
October 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
and graciegirl
wow.
October 29th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
WOW!!!!!!!!!THIS IS PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY ONCE AND FOR ALL GET RID OF THIS BAD APPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Sheesh. As my dd1 would say, this is BONKERS!
Anyway, thanks for the updates on the matter at hand…REFERRALS! RQ…we love you at our house!!
October 29th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Wow! Unbelievable! I don’t understand why? This blog is here to help us and RQ have is 2 littles Rumorprincess with her…not in China anymore!
RQ, I really appreciate your work.Thank you very much
reglissoly
LID 03/15/06
October 29th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Her 2 littles rumorprincesses…sorry for my english, I speak french.
October 29th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Thank you RQ for all you do….You’ve been a life line for me this long wait. I’m rooting for the 12th, but if we don’t make the cut this month then we’ll definitley be there NEXT!!!!!
Jen T.
LID 12-12-05
October 29th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
oh,oh. I didn´t want to upset anybody. Well, I remember when the spanish site critized you and I desagreed. I hate when someone doesn´t respect others. And I desagree with other things they have published other times because of the lack of respect. But I think they usually do a really good job. And with the automatic translation you cannot get the real meaning of their words. They don´t use to say something for true (althought this time they did, and I hope they´re right). It´s more like an expression to say they really wish something happen. I follow them since long time ago and I never got any wrong rumor, just some kind of “vibration” that did´nt happen. This is the first time They say something for sure (so sure). We will see. I hope they´re right.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
You go RQ!!! You should be on CSI!!! Spank that Ramfam, gracigirl, amazinggracie whoever they are! This is better than daytime TV any day!!!!!
Adomom
October 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
I’ve reading some old messages of that site… Sometimes they talk about rumors read/heard in other places, sometimes they give info that their contact provides and sometimes they express their own willings, believes or personal opinions. I can image the mess trying to recognize one or the other if you are not fluent in Spanish…
For instance, it’s common to read: our source says xxx but we still rely on yyy. The real info provided is xxx. yyy is only a “I wish…”. As far as I’ve read (not all site, I confess), I’ve found no wrong predictions when it comes to info provided by their source and yes when it comes to their personal opinions.
Anyway, I agree with “fromspain” that their writing style has not always been kind to RQ, and I don’t like that because I think RQ does an excellent statistic work (as nobody else does) and handles data in a very helpful way for all us.
October 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Interesting how Ramfam,etc stopped talking when they got caught!!!!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Also, adomom12, if you click the url links that RQ posted, they now don’t exist…
October 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
But if you take out the second http/ in ramfam’s current url link, it should work….
October 29th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
oooops - ramfam is busted! ouch. maybe she just doesn’t know how easy it is to figure out who is who when using the internet.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Interesting that RAMFAN says in her post “We all have enough love and respect for you both!”, but on her blogsite refers to you as “the stupid rumor queen.” Doesn’t sound like a lot of love and respect exists there.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
It also looks like Ramfam puts copyrighted materials on her blog. Bet she/he didn’t get permission for all that stuff.
October 29th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
As a Spanish teacher, one of the first things I tell my students is NOT to use an online translation. They are notorious for being filled with inevitable errors. My favorite experience was when a student left a message on the board for me which translated to ” I testament to be correct spine.”
Now, I can usually figure them out but this one had me stumped. It turned out to be a word for word dictionary translation of “I’ll be right back.” Cracked me up!!!
My point? I went to the Spanish site and read the last few blogs in the original language. There is a caveat at the top that says if you want to know something as a FACT, the only site that can give you that info is CCAA.
I would concur with FromSpain’s post that there are nuances in the Spanish language (as in most others as well) that can be easily misunderstood. That being said, I do not believe it is in anyone’s best interest to slam another site (this one) which has the same purpose in its existence: to help waiting families get information as quickly as possible. Will all that information inevitably be true? No! Will some? Most likely. In the meantime it helps those in this (seemingly) never-ending line find some hope (however fleeting) and distraction to get through another day.
Ciao,
Laureen
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary
October 29th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
I’m glad RQ is getting to the bottom of the misinformation provided by ramfam (or which ever personality it is!). Truly pathetic and shame on you for wasting RQ’s valuable time! Now, on to referrals.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
RQ,
You are absolutely right about the Spanish site. I have been following them from the begining: they started copying your graphics and your rumors. Then they started now saying this, and then saying just the opposite and then ending up saying “you see? we were right!” If something can be black or white, and one day you say it´s black and the next you say its probably white, you are sure to be right in your predictions. So they are always right.
Spanish is my mother tonge, so I understand perfectly their “shade of meanings” when they write. By the way, the style is suspiciously familiar to that of RamFam´s post at 11:10 am…. maybe she´s just copying their style…
And as for their “be nice policy”, where is it on that site? Ever since they started the blog they have done nothing but badmouthing everyone: RQ, agencies, and basically anyone providing services to adopting families… A couple of weeks ago they even made serious accusations about one of the travel agencies in China that organizes trips for adopting families (the post was later removed). They constantly complain about “controversy” and they are the ones who ALWAYS start the controversy. In my book, controversy is just what they are looking for. That is why it is best not to give it to them, it just enhaces their profile and they can then write a post about how altruistic they are, and how the others don´t like them because, unlike them, they have commercial interests in the adoption world. But I understand it can become difficult not to say a thing when they constantly slam you, RQ. I am also sorry to waste my time writing this comment, but they deserve it.
They are just as deceitful as RamFam. In Spanish we say you can catch a liar faster that you can catch a limping man. And that´s exactly what has happened to RamFam today.
Having said all this, if the Spanish site is not right about the cut off date this month, they will at least be very, very close. I am sure of that. There are a couple of “places” in China you can write to even as an individual and they will give you the information they give them. I am pretty sure their “contact” is not exclusive of them, but they love acting as if they were in a dramma movie.
Keep up the serious work, RQ, your stats are really helpful to all families waiting. And let´s forget about the rest. I hope they let us.
October 29th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
HOW RUDE!!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Mmmm Ramfam, I am totally amazed at your low way of trying to keep a multiple disguise to be able to slowly edge a way into RQ site, her time and mostly the community. We do respect her for all she does for those waiting, receiving and continuing to support. And as for asking to be unbanned….!
RQ maybe she/he is a relative of BS. LOL
On a more brighter note, common the 10th, go the 12th and we can dream for the 14th.
October 29th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
mafalda,
Thanks for your input on the history of the Spanish site. It was very enlightening to me. As I mentioned, I only read the last few entries. I appreciated your post.
Laureen
October 29th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
RQ you rock! Keep up the wonderful work you are doing. You have been a life line for all of during the long wait. THANKS!!!!! Good luck December pals.
Hopefully we’ll have something to celebrate within the next several days.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Wow…all sorts of busted on that one! (Ramfam)
Sorry…part of me just has to laugh at how pathetic that was…but another part is really upset that someone gets on here and causes such a senseless disruption!!
And well I have no opinion on the Spanish site…all I know is that RQ is the nucleus of this wait in this household…and I follow her lead and her lead alone. I don’t blame her for a single rumor that is out there…right or wrong…I applaud the genuine effort and her fortitude in trying to make sense of this craziness.
It can be thankless job…and she doesn’t even need to do it….that is huge!!! I am sure she would prob. love to spend all her extra time with her children and family but yet also feels a sense of obligation to all of us…. I never forget that.
So heres to the 12th….and thank you RQ!!!
~Linda
October 29th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
RQ…thanks for this site. A very enlightening series of posts today. LOL…some people just don’t get it..
I really hope they far into December…Bring on those rumors please!!!
CTG
(now GTC; going to china!!)…but signing in only as CTG thank you very much!!!
October 29th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
waitingforlibby,
your are right, if you take out the second http you can get to ramfam’s site and she says that she was banned from this site for mentioning the name of “jesus.” So, she admits to being the one who was banned!
WHy so quiet Ramfam?????? Nothig to say now?????
Adomom
October 30th, 2007 at 11:16 am
ramfam is bashing the queen on her site again.
October 30th, 2007 at 11:27 am
I’m not interested in that adamom, I’d really rather focus on what is going on at this site. She can do whatever she wants over there, I have not gone back since yesterday when I checked to see all of her 7 different identities, and do not intend to go back. I really don’t have time for what she has to say. Let’s just leave it alone. Please.
October 30th, 2007 at 11:43 am
Ok, sorry. I will not say anything more. Sorry. I am just so mad at how she treated you but you handled it great. Again, I will not mention it again.
October 30th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
If they get through the 5th, that will mean they got through the biggest day in December according to the RQ poll. That’s something. Kick me for being the eternal optimist!
October 30th, 2007 at 10:57 pm
chickensoupforchina:
I agree with you….anything more than 2 days is worth celebrating!