Orphanage Donation, again. And, other countries.
An agency has told their clients that the donation has been raised to $5,000 across all of China, effective immediately.
Many agencies are still saying they’ve heard nothing of an increase, while many are just listing the two provinces of Guangxi and Jiangsu as having raised the donation amount. I’ve heard from families about to travel who are still paying $3,000 and families about to travel who have been told they will have to pay $5,000.
I’m reporting on this as news comes in, but I think we’ve probably talked about it enough by now that we’ve all said what we want to say about it. So, let’s talk about something else.
What other options are out there for adoption?
- Guatemala is still too up in the air with things, I think.
- It appears that Kazakhstan is currently not accepting new applicants, some say this is because of a flood of recent applicants and they don’t want to end up with a huge backlog.
- Russia seems to be open again but I’m not sure how smoothly things are going so if anyone has information on that it might be nice to share.
- Ethiopia seems to have a good program but the last I heard the wait there is going up pretty drastically.
- Korea is open and I believe the program is good, but many do not qualify to adopt there.
- Taiwan is open and seems to have a good program. Or rather, several good programs. But again, the program seems to be saturated and wait times have gone up there as well.
- And finally, Vietnam no longer seems such a good idea since the State Department has recommended Americans who aren’t already in process there should not get started.
There are a lot of small programs that people are having good luck with, but when you look to see how many Visas were issues last year many of them had less than 100 visas issued. So while it may be a great solution for some families, it’s clear the smaller programs aren’t going to be a good solution for very many families. I think the key to going with one of the smaller country programs is finding an agency with a lot of experience in that country, and with happy clients who are recently home with their children from that country.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Our agency is just opening up Nepal.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Haiti is a good option for many. The program is somewhat unstable, but many will qualify. Patience is a virtue with anything dealing with Haiti, but I am very passionate about this country and adoptions increasing there. Thanks!
March 20th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Our agency just opened up Rwanda and India. They closed their Vietnam branch 2 years ago, citing diffficulty finding qualfied in country staff.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Having done a lot of research in this area recently, one consistency I found is that toddlers over 18 months and older children have much shorter wait times for referrals. I found this with almost every country. In Ethiopia, an older child can be brought home almost immediately.
Russia also has a very short wait time, mostly little boys are available, and I believe you are matched with a child when in country (not before); the program is also quite expensive, not feasible for everyone. Korea has a wonderful program, but 42 is the maximum age for parents.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am
With all the questions regarding adopting in other countries, especially Africa with aids, what about adopting the many bi-racial, full african american babies available here in the United States? My agency has a great domestic program. I had originally wanted to adopt from China, but with the wait time the way it is, I am going dual-track. I feel this is good for me and may work for others. By the time I get my referral from China, my “first” child will be able to be the “big” sister or brother.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:42 am
heard yesterday that the US has closed down adoptions from Kazakstan for an unknown reason.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:42 am
For those interested in an older child (5 years +), Latvia is an option. I have no information on younger child, if available at all. It is one of the countries that do not do many adoptions, so would not be feasibile for tons of families. We hosted a child over Christmas, and when you do that, the first trip is shorter. Short, easy process (relatively speaking).
March 20th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Oh, I also found agencies that work with Poland, not a country I’m used to hearing about. Also a very expensive program, not feasible for everyone. And it wasn’t a country my agency could tell me anything first hand about as they don’t have a program there.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:47 am
I am very interested in this topic. Thank you RQ! As an IA Mom I often have people ask me about different programs and it is very difficult to keep up with current information, so much is happening with the Hague and in IA in general.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:03 am
I have wondered what is up with India. I heard that they were working to make the program more accessible, and I understand that there are many children (primarily girls) in need of homes. When we started researching countries for concurrent we looked into India, but could not find many agencies willing to work with people of non-Indian decent. THe wait also was generally over 2 years.
skittles, Kazakhstan is not really closed, although they have temporarily stopped accepting dossiers from half of the US – hopefully this will be resolved soon.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:13 am
I know people who have had a lot of success with adopting toddlers from Ukraine. The wait is very short, but the costs are high and you must be very open to gender, age, health, etc.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Does anyone have info on programs in Central and South America? I know of Guatemala and Columbia but that’s it. Are there others?
March 20th, 2008 at 11:20 am
I know a bit about Taiwan since i’ve been on a Taiwan email group. I’ve seen the wait times there quadruple since I joined a year ago. So its not for the faint of heart. I’d expect a 2-2 1/2 year wait for anyone starting now. And then you have to add 6 months for court time before travel.
I am also very interested in India and very curious about it. It seemed so promising when it was in the press last year and then suddenly not. If that program ever opens up in a major way, I think it’ll see huge interest, much like China before things went awry.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:25 am
All,
We have adopted internationally from Thailand and China. I know there are lots of special needs children available from Thailand some of which some are just older. The two largest agencies that deal with the sn are very reasonable in fees. Also, there are lots of boys and the trip is about 10 to 14 days (1 trip) to Thailand (a great place to visit). I believe the special needs program usually takes about a year.
Also regarding India, our agency has 10 waiting children who range from being young to older both boys and girls, mostly boys and one sibling group. They accept non-Indians to do the adoption. I am not sure of the length of time for wait, it depends on the paperwork done on them. Many of them are from Bombay (Mumbai) as well as the agency’s own orphange that they have run for 10 years or so.
If you want more specific info please contact me.
PlannerMom
March 20th, 2008 at 11:28 am
I’ve heard that India used to be one parent had to be of Idian descent but no longer.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Does any one have an update site on Nepal? The US State seems out of date on this country
March 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am
India still has programs going. The dossier is a bear. I think, from what little I see, that families who can offer a home to sibling groups are less restricted about one of them being of Indian descent. If I wasn’t in line for China (all my eggs already in a basket) I would give the waiting children in India my attention.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I recently go an email from our agency stating that Vietnam has decided that the US restrictions are too, well, restrictive and that the amount of paperwork and whatnot required for US families to adopt are a big turn-off. They are showing a strong preference towards non-US families, for this reason. The wait there is crazy and there is no promise that those in line will get a child AT ALL, let alone soon.
We have dear friends with a little girl from India. Neither are Indian. I believe the process took around two years, though that was about five years ago.
I’m glad that Ethiopia is becoming so popular. Our agency didn’t think that would happen, since adopting an African-American child born in the US is relatively easy to do. I’m glad they were wrong.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I know that you said we had exhausted the orphanage donation fee topic, but about two weeks ago I did post that an experienced guide had emailed someone who was expecting her referral soon to say that the orphanage fees would increase imminently and then things would start to speed up, now the first part has happened so lets hpoe he is right about a speed up,not holding my breath but you never know!
March 20th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Japan has a program too that is expensive but relatively fast. It might be a good option for those with the funds and wanting a relatively quick referral.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
One other option is to look at the waiting child lists for many programs. Rainbowkids is a good source just to browse and get an idea of the programs and children available. With waiting children, you can usually cut out the referral wait time, and you know ahead of time what special needs you need to prepare for.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
by th eway any other word on review box changing?
March 20th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
FWIW, my Kaz agency and a few others are saying that the dossier suspension only applies to the DC Embassy while they review the process. Families whose agencies process through New York are not experiencing any effects at this point. I have also heard that this suspension is only temporary and should be resolved within the next couple of months.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
What about our own country???? US is open!! Ha,ha. No really. I think we’ve made our decision to drop out and do domestic again. To much negative stuff going on in China to handle anymore. Ughhhhhh.
-AC
3/21/06
March 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
We are leaving to get our daughter in India end of April. Our entire process from start to finish has been 10 months. She is a waiting child, and I think the longest part is the referral of a NSN child. That being said, the court process was only 3 months! We’ve adopted from Kaz and China, and India has been our easiest adoption by far. Travel in country only 3-5 days also. Costs same as China. Neither of us our Indian. Just FYI for people interested. I think overall many countries will focus on SN adoption as more people from their own country become able to adopt domestically. I think IA across the board will turn into adoption for harder to place kids. Dont flame me, all 3 of mine are SN and I wouldnt change a thing.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
I understand Panama has a program but, last I heard it moves at a crawl.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Breezy- Can you please post more about your experience adopting from India in the Other Countries – India section of the forum?
Thanks-
UUMom
March 20th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
actually, Guatemala is closed, and when it reopens is anyone’s guess. to the person who asked about other L.A. countries…some agencies seem to have small program in el salvador, peru, and panama….although i have yet to find anyone who has completed an adoption from any of those countries.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
A co-worker got her referral for her daughter from Guatemala in Oct, and is leaving Easter Sunday to pick her up. There was alot of red tape to get cleared, but they are going!!!
March 20th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
My sister is checking into Krygystan, but I don’t know much about it….
March 20th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Our agency is just recently back to working with Bulgaria. They also do Nepal and when we were doing our original homestudy for China, our SW was trying to sell us on going to Nepal instead. I’m not sure what the status of that program is right now, but our agency has placed children from there and the referral were coming (back in 2006 when we heard about it) very quickly.
And about the increased orphanage fee… our agency sent notice on Tuesday that the fee increased from 3,000 to 5,000 – effective immediately. All of our agency families just now receiving their TAs are expected to “hand-carry” $5,000. No more wires.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
breezy – can you say more about the age situation? and hope you get to spend lots more time in india – it is one of the most fantastic countries! i’d love to adopt from there, but last time i checked we were too old (45)
March 20th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
As some one who sent in the paper work for Cambodia – to have it closed the next week – to Vietnam only the be in the next group to travel and have it shut down – to China where were blessed with 6 month referal for our daughter.
Keep up the faith – China is still the largest country by far right now.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Breezy,
I would also like more information about India. That’s a program we are looking into while waiting for China. Would like to know your agency and the types of SN’s that are available. I don’t know where the other forum is, so please direct me as how to contact you.
Fortheloveof…china,
I would also like information on Nepal.
Thanks!!
March 20th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Breezy,
I would love more information on India and what types of needs the children may have.
For the love of China,
Would appreciate any info.on Nepal. Thanks!
We are lid 10/07 and are looking into a concurrent adoption. We have been turned down by numerous agencies not allowing concurrent. But I have seen that they are starting to change their minds regarding concurrent adoptions, but not all. Ethiopia is the top of our list,but India and Nepal are close seconds. My husband is Indian.
March 20th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
We adopted domestically about a month ago and it has been a wonderful experience. Ours was a private adoption where the birthfamily found our profile online. Our daughter will be 5 in May and fits in very well with our other kids.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
A lot of people/agencies have jumped over to Krygystan in the past 6 months – with the result that the wait has gone way up, and some agencies are no longer accepting applicants. The country has a population of only ~5million, so the number of available babies is not high, and the costs are quite high. Uzbekistan is another option, altho reportedly complicated and expensive. Ecuador is another South/Central America option.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Here’s an article dated March 18, 2008 that seems to give a prettty good overview of the current state of international adoption. There are two pages to it.
Ann
March 20th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Sorry that I forgot the link. Here it is.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1004119.html
March 20th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Haiti is NOT a good option right now. Parents with kids can no longer adopt from there. And, the amount of corruption in adoption there is insane. If you don’t want to bribe the government officials, you won’t get anywhere.
There are many agencies that are scams in Haiti as well. Be VERY careful if you decide to go there.
March 20th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Other than age (42?) what are the restrictions in Korea? We’ve actually talked about starting a second process while we wait, but money is a huge issue right now. We have none. :) Thanks!
LID to China – 12/14/06
March 20th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Ukraine has initiated strict quotas for citizens of different countries. They will only accept a limited number of US dossiers in 2008, and only a minimal amount will be for young children/toddlers.
Russia is open. More agencies have been reaccredited, and are sending families. The wait is very short, however it’s longer if you are requesting an infant girl. The dossier is tough, it’s 3 trips (though you may get lucky and have 2 trips), and very expensive compared to China.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I did a concurrent adoption here in the US (in New Orleans, still not recovered from Katrina) and it only took two months to be placed! Of course you have to be open to any race to get that kind of speed. It was also super reasonable and quick, and now we have the most perfect little guy! If you want to check out our newest blessing or you have any questions for me, go to: http://www.treeanddave.blogspot.com/
March 20th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
We just got a letter from our homestudy agency that is also an adoption agency stating that Guatamala is closed. And Vietnam will close in September but they anticipate Vietnam re-open.
March 20th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
The Gang, Korea also has BMI restrictions. As I understand it, you also have to work with the agency in your state or, if there isn’t one in your state, apply to be able to apply through an agency in another state. I never fully understood that, but there are some strange restrictions about which agencies you can use. I’m out on age alone.
March 20th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Hello. Long time reader, I would like to mention Brazil and Hungry have small programs available. Brazil has some babies and Hungry is mostly children but some babies too. Thailand is a good program and Moldova. Japan is expensive and also you have to be under 43 years of age. No children, and they prefer one spouse has Japanese hertiage. Not many children are available for adoption.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Wellworththewait,
I read the article. Now I’m depressed. But thanks for sending along! Appreciate it. It is what it is!
All,
If we could do an affordable concurrent adoption, that would help with the wait. But 5 years is nuts! If most of us knew it would be that long, many would have revisited China adoption at a later date. The costs will be outrageous! Well, enough of my venting :)
March 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Kazakhstan is open and processing dossiers that are in country. There was a personnel change at the DC embassy and the new guy has put a hold on all new dossiers. This has been going on for several weeks now. NY has been processing dossiers. You don’t have a choice where you send your dossier, it is based on which one your agency is assigned so some agencies are submitting new dossiers as normal and some have not been able to get any processed for a while now. Kaz is very expensive and has a very long in country travel time so it is only a good option for a few.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Kazakhstan: I just wanted to second (or 3rd or 4th) it that Kaz is still open and it is true (according to my agency) that it is just the DC embassy that has the problem! If you can swing the cost and the time, though it is completely worth it! The country is awesome and the people are beautiful! They seem to be a melting pot like the USA! Love it there!
Waiting for Kaz and China!
March 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Is there a list of orphanages that have raised fees?We are adopting from the Henan province. Our agency has not notified us of fees that are increasing.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Regarding Nepal: A friend’s daughter had to leave Nepal last week without completing her adoption. She had been there since Dec 21st, but the process was suspended due to instability in the country (there were problems before the Tibet issue started). She will not find out until after July if she can return to complete the adoption.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Brazil is not very easy to adopt because the line-up for domestic adoption is very long, specially for babies. Usually to adopt a young child is possible only if adopting group of siblings. According to Brazilian officials, there are more people trying to adopt than kids to be adopted. Most of the children in the institutions have a relative, and sometimes they (the relative) prefer to leave the child there longing for a family than giving the child for adoption. I don’t really know how much it would cost to adopt a Brazilian child through IA, but I know that domestically the expense is minimal, there is no donations fees for orphanages or expenses with social workers.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
We love our Korean agency! They have been upfront and honest! Looked into many, many, many agencies (incl. Guatemala, Kaz. , Russia, and Vietnam) after finding out about the loooonnngg wait ex- LID 12/07.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
We adopted from Russia in August of 2007. We adopted a toddler girl, who was waiting. The whole process took us four months. We were already dossier to China, so we just had to re-do our dossier for Russia.
The process is more difficult than China, as it requires two trips, and is more expensive than China. However, I could see that with a log in date of August 2006, we were going to be waiting a very long time for a child from China.
There are many wonderful babies waiting for homes in Russia. We had a great experience with our agency. If you don’t take a waiting girl, I think you have to be open to a boy.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:08 am
Be very careful about adopting from any country that is new. We adopted from Haiti, and wouldn’t do it again.
We had to pay extra for the IBESR to release our file.
Now this was back in 2003. There are families that are adopting but it is with the knowledge that it will be a rollercoaster ride of many unpredicatable events.
My dh’s first wife is Hungarian and there are no babies to adopt in Hungary. Citizens there go outside the country.
They do have children, like Bulgaria in CWI that are older or maybe of a different ethnic background.
Poland is the same. I do know of a lady living in Europe that adopted a sibling group of sisters, but they were older.
The problem is that within Europe itself the birth rate is low.
My friend in Italy adopted from Columbia. Each country that allows IA has different agreements and contracts with those countries that allow their citizens to adopt internationally. The US does require a lot of paperwork and a process that some countries do not require. I can remember years ago that Vietnam preferred the French to adopt from their country because the government made it easier.
With regards to India. You can only adopt older children from India or SN’s. If you go to any agency site they will stipulate this. Infact, one agency who has had an Indian program for many years states specifically that they are not accepting applications at the moment for
healthy children on SN’s. This does not apply to families of
Indian heritage though. India was once a flourishing program with very few restrictions. Russia is what those have mentioned.
I really believe IA will cease eventually. It is getting harder and harder, and what is sad, there is such a great need in many African countries for babies and children there.
March 21st, 2008 at 2:19 am
This is interesting to me as I have been researching Russia all day. I hate to say this, but we are withdrawing from China. I just could not do this endless wait. We had an April 07 LID. I am eager to find anyone who has adopted from Russia, as changing countries is scary.
March 21st, 2008 at 7:59 am
My heart is sooooooooooooooo in China.
March 21st, 2008 at 8:46 am
RQ a lot of people pulling out of China time for a poll to get an idea?
March 21st, 2008 at 9:25 am
It breaks my heart to read all of this. We are hurt and disappointed with everything happening in the world of international adoption. The children are who suffer the most. There are so many special people willing to open their homes and hearts to these children and it keeps getting harder and harder. The cost keeps going so high that only people who are very well off will be able to afford it. This should not be. I wish I were rich enough to adopt a child while we wait for China, but we cannot afford it. On another subject, has the review room moved?? I thought someone said they are through November. The thought of only getting through January and February of 2006 makes me upset. It could take most of 2009 to get through March if the RQ polls are correct. UGGGG!!
March 21st, 2008 at 9:51 am
MaryPatricia, you say that you adopted from Russia in 2007 but was your dossier already logged in for China?
I ask this because with a LID of 11-2307 when we looked inro adoption from Ethiopia, we were told that which ever country matched us first that we would of had to drop out of the other. So we knew that we would get a referral from Ethiopia faster. But I could not bear taking our file out of China because we know and feel that our daughter for us will be born at the right time and will be ready for us when the time is right.
Can you tell me how you were able to keep your file in China?
You can email off line if you would like.
momtwoboys647@yahoo.ca
I shouls also mention that we are Canadian and am unsure if the USA is allowed to perform differently..
Thank you in advance
Littleperson647
LID 11-23-07………(sigh)))
March 21st, 2008 at 10:00 am
ChloesMommy, we adopted from Russia in 2005, and have stayed current with the situation over there as we have many friends recently in process, and an agency who does mostly Russian adoptions. Please PM me if you have any specific questions on Russia or agencies. If you haven’t already, go to http://www.frua.org and check out the forums there. Most people on there have been in the world of Russian adoption for a long time, and have excellent advice. They also have a long list of parents who are at different stages of the process.
Good luck! Adopting from Russia was the most wonderful thing I’ve ever done (so far), and I’d do it again if I could manage the cost and all the trips….
March 21st, 2008 at 10:07 am
Skittles, I am curious about this too. We started the process in China with a “we’ll wait forever” attitude, thinking it would max at 2-2.5 yrs tops. (in 2006).
Then as the wait lengthened, we looked at concurrent/interim adoptions (we’re LID Jan 2007). We decided to stick it out with China, and not do anything else.
Now, we have had a possible domestic adoption situation suddenly appear and if this adoption comes to pass, we’ll drop out of China, with much regret and sadness.
We have another child, and we’re getting older, and I just can’t wait another 5 years of renewals, fee increases, and such, worrying that our health will change, or our lives will change or new restrictions will be imposed that would disqualify us. Just want to be done with family building worries, once and for all. I’ve been down the IA road a while, and China is just not the China it once was. Which is both good and bad, of course.
Of course, if this situation doesn’t happen, we’ll stick with our original China plans, but probably not with much confidence that we’ll ever have another child in our family.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:07 am
I was wondering about the drop outs too. I am not sure that the number of people who dropped out will really make that much of a difference considering the number of people in the program. I think most of the people who will drop out will be logged after 2007. The whole thing is such a shame.
I wish everyone luck making such difficult decisions. I wanted to go another direction back in April 2006, but my husband didn’t believe me that the wait would be long. I think if I had other children at home, the wait would be easier for me. THis is my 1st baby.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:12 am
Yesterday I did some research on embryo adoption and it really has peaked my interest. I brought it up to my hubby and it kind of freaked him out to think about that while we are waiting for our China referral. He’s afraid the timing of the birth from the embryo adoption will be the same time we get our China referral, which I personally doubt. But it’s a thought for us to research on and pray about.
My adoption agency has posted that they have not received anything OFFICIAL in writing that the fees have increased but they are telling us to hope for the best but prepare for the worst because it WILL happen in time. But that’s what we’ve been doing all along with this roller coaster of a wait – hoping for the best but preparing for the worst
Everyone have a Happy Easter!
March 21st, 2008 at 12:37 pm
We have heard that India is very quick…. 60 days turn around from receiving the papers????
I’m not sure how up to date that is though!
Happy Easter friends!!
March 21st, 2008 at 12:43 pm
I think $5000 is a big increase but if the fees haven’t gone up in 14 years then It is probably about time for the hike… just in time for us!!!
March 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I think this wait is driving everyone crazy and all the unknowns out there!
Does anyone know IF you give birth(not happening here!) or do a concurrnt adoption, do you go BACK in review? Or just hand carry your updated HS to China to the USA embassy appt?
Contemplating interim adoption from Ethiopia at the moment….thanks!
LID MAY 2006
March 21st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
4emily,
We are also looking into a concurrent adoption with Ethiopia or India. It has not been an easy journey. Which agency are you looking at? Please contact me at laurie3@ptd.net
Thanks!
March 21st, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Chloesmommy,
I have adopted from Russia twice. The second time was March 2007. My sister is in the process now. Now is a good time to adopt from Russia, particularly if you are open to a boy. It is expensive. My second adoption was about $40,000. Definitely worth it, though. I will be getting back $11,000 with my tax credit, which helps. I completed my adoption 5 months after submission of my dossier. I would also recommend checking out http://www.frua.org. Agencies are named and discussed. Picking your agency is the most critical decision when adopting from Russia. Good luck!
March 21st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
We just did our taxes and claimed the adoption tax credit for our child adopted domestically in 2006 (finalized in ‘07) Hello! That worked out very nice. I assumed we would somehow get screwed out of it, but we qualified and will be getting a nice refund for the first time … ever.
I wanted to comment on embryo adoption. I think could be a worthwhile option to pursue while waiting. I researched it in 2005, and there was too much red tape from the FDA to make it worth my clinic’s time. The adoption agencies with established programs were looking for more religious couples, so it didn’t work out. I would only be able to do it if I knew I had my LID or some other iron in the fire, because you go through a lot just to get to transfer and then the embryo may not implant and grow into a healthy baby. Still, I think this is worth pursuing, and I hope it becomes an easier path for infertile couples down the road.
Best,
Patti
Celia, 16 months
LID: 3/21/06
March 21st, 2008 at 9:42 pm
We were told by the agency that we could not do concurrent adoptions. They said that what ever one gave a referral first, we would have to drop out of the other.
Not to sure what other agencies are saying
Littleperson647
LID 11-23-07
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 am
My very large, China only agency states they have received no official word of this increase.
March 22nd, 2008 at 12:28 pm
littleperson647, Have you logged into the forum? You should ask your question in the Canada room as I believe some provinces allow you to do a concurrent, while others make you pull your second file after the first adoption. In the US it is agency dependent. Ours allows us to complete both adoptions.
March 22nd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
….do not know if we would adopt again..surrogacy seems to be the way we might have chosen..just about as expensive and if it works…nine month wait time….can’t beat the old fashioned way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Hi JenT04
You said to PM you if I have questions about Russia and I do but I don’t know how. Can you email me? Patricstein@Yahoo.com
March 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 am
Hi Guys,
We are travelling to Hubei on April 10th for our Beautiful 8 month old Girl,Just wondering if there is any RQ Families going to the same area, the SWI is QI Chun County in Hubei,We will be based in Wuhan.
Regards Cummins Family Ireland
March 23rd, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Little Person,
It depends where in Canada you reside. Some will not allow concurrent and others do. I know someone who just moved to another area to do a concurrent. CCAA has suggested those doing a concurrent will go back into the review room with the change in family since income and assets as well as family size need to be evaluated in the new regs.
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
wait4ever,
We have an almost 5 year old daughter from China at home and a June 07/07 LID. I thought that the wait would be easier because I am very busy and have my daughter home, but it has been worse than waiting to be first time parents and it would be a longer wait for sure.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
hopesemper…
I have often thought about your dilemma…and I agree I think it would be harder to wait for #2…because one would naturally refer back to the first and compare…this time around you cannot even begin to draw similiarities…good luck and there will be end and your daughter will be hope all in good time…
March 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I heard that one of the reasons the China program is moving so slow is due to the lack of “paper ready” babies. I also heard the reason the orphanages were moving so slow was because of the lack of monetary incentive. Now that the donations are almost doubling……. (was there any hint this was going to happen?) Could this possibly mean that the China program will pick up speed???? I’m new the the forum and heart broken like the rest of you waiting for a daughter from China. When we started the process we were told 18 months. I’m over 40 and not getting any younger. Easter Sunday, my husband and I have already been waiting a year. How many more to go????
March 26th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Re: donation. I’m sorry if this is old news. We just returned from China (2/28-3/20). Our facilitator who works strictly with two agencies was on the phone informing families of the increase to 5,000 in Guangdong, effective immediately. She told us we barely made the cut – whew! I know our former agency is still telling families 3,000, so who knows?
CJ
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