Attrition - The Results
I had over 200 emails to go through, though unfortunately a lot of people just sent in that they didn’t have the information I was asking for, so it took a lot longer to go through the information than I had anticipated. I ended up with 80 data points.
I did not have enough data for December 2007 or any of 2008. I had some data, but not enough to reliably use, I don’t think. Also, ignore the Percent of Total column for now, I’ll explain it later in this post.
The total attrition rate is now almost 25%. That means that one out of every four people who started the process are no longer waiting for a NSN child.
Some of the individual month numbers are truly heartbreaking. Forty percent of the people who started the process in a couple of months pulled out for one reason or another before they will get their referral. Almost half. I hope that most of them found another path to parenthood and didn’t just give up.
What does this does this do to the backlog? Possibly not very much. If most of those 25% have switched to SN then many of them are conceivably still waiting for LOA or TA, so they may (or may not) still be in the backlog. If they are not still in the backlog then we’ve moved from somewhere around 27,000 dossiers to around 20,000 dossiers. But I don’t think that’s the case just yet.
No hard numbers for this next bit, but I’m guessing that around 3/4 of the people pulling out of the NSN program are going to the SN program. Which means that about a quarter of them are probably not in line anymore. And if half of of the SN families are home and no longer waiting… oh, lets just say that the current backlog might be closer 24,000 right now. But that’s not a hard figure at all, just a guesstimate of what attrition may have done to the backlog.
We should also do a side by side comparison of the last time we did this.
It isn’t pretty, is it? Eighteen percent for this time period has grown to 25% over all. And look at July through September of ‘06, it grew from twenty percent to thirty six percent.
And finally, about the extra column in the first graphic, the one labeled Percent of Total. That column doesn’t tell us anything at all about the attrition rate. It tells us about the size of that month, the total numbers of people who are left waiting. It’s another gauge for how big months are in relation to the months around them. Is it accurate? I don’t know. My guess is that the polling data is probably more accurate than this, but I figured the information for myself so I figured I’d just leave that column on so you all could see it as well.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Well I think the last column (% of total) is probably the most telling info and not in a good way.
May 13th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
These numbers surprise me. I was expecting 2007 LID’s to have a higher attrition rate as the wait for 2007 LID’s is probably 4-5 more years. As early-mid 2006 LID’s are getting somewhat closer, I would expect more families to be sticking it out. Have the early-mid 2006 LID’s possibly been doing concurrent adoptions, and they have now been matched in the other program (thereby needing to withdraw from China)?
May 13th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Interesting info. What surprises me is that March 2007 is not as big as I would thought it would be compare to April 2007. So after March and April 2006 the other monster month would be April 2007.
Thank you RQ
May 13th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Thank you for the time you put into this. So a lot of 2006 families are switching but 2007 families are sticking around. They may be waiting to see how things play out after the Olympics. Also, I wonder how many 2007 families are waiting to see if things speed up or if they have time to do a concurrent adoption? That may be a factor in our decision to stay with China or switch.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
As a early/mid 2006 person who recently changed to SN, I can tell you my experience… I was told my wait would be 6 months, 9 at the very longest. I held out thinking there would be a speed up for a long time and thought I was so close I should just wait it out. I had been open and researching SN for the past year, and had been exploring other programs as well, however, I really continued to believe that I was close enough to just wait it out. When the CCAA started moving though December 2005 sooooo slowly, it became clear to me that I was really not THAT close and that my NSN referral was really still so far away. I luckily found an amazing little girl on my agency WC list in Feb. so I made the change then. If I hadn’t found her, I probably would have changed programs for my own sanity. Being told 6 months and being at 2 years with at least another 1 year to go is really crazy making.
I do have to say, though, that I am personally grateful that the wait caused me to become more open to SN, as I didn’t know any better at the beginning of this process.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
RQ,
This is very interesting, as the latest poll is a little more optimistic for me with a LID 3/27/06-
How accurate would you say the latest poll is?
Thanks for all you do and also for all the info on the earthquake.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
We are a family who LID November 2006 prompted us about 12 months ago to NOT change to the SN program but to ALSO include that possibility in our dossier. So when it is speculated that some of the dropouts include people who switched to SN, realize that keeping a place in both lines is possible, according to our agency. I am going to bet that a dropout is just that: gone onto other paths. Since the sample we have here is a convenience sample, there is NO way to generalize the statistics to the general population. IF we wanted something genuine, RQ would have to randomly send out questionnaires to a sample, and would have to get almost all of them back to say anything meaningful. Now, guess who’s working on her MPH in Epidemiology? Just passing time- LAM
May 13th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Very, very, very, very few people have been allowed to switch to SN and keep their NSN dossier in place as well. My guess is less than one percent. The vast majority have been required to pull their NSN file if they want to go the SN route.
And I’m told that the CCAA has stopped this practice now, so unless someone has already received permission to do so, they won’t be able to get permission.
As for accuracy, it is true that in order to do a “scientific survey” you must use a random sampling. However, a random sampling is not possible in this instance, and the methodologies I am using are the next best thing. I’ve never claimed they are scientifically accurate. However, our polls garner a big enough percentage that they are accurate enough for our purposes (likely to within about five or six percent). And the attrition data moves in the right direction as we go, so it is probably fairly close as well.
Is it exact? No, probably not. But it is close, and that’s the best we can do right now. It gives us an idea of how things are changing.
Also, realize that 80 data points in this instance is really a lot more than 80 data points. For instance, one of those data points may be that a LID group started out with 19 and is now down to 14, while another data point may be that a LID groups started out with 9 and is now down to 7. So, those 80 data points represent a whole lot more than 80 families.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I’m not at all surprised that 2007 people are sticking around more than 2006 people.
Why? Because…
1. We had a better idea than the 2006 people that the wait was going to be long, so it wasn’t as much of a shock to us. I realize there are exceptions to this, and even those who were “prepared” for a long wait, weren’t exactly prepared for 5+ years. But most of us 2007 LID’s knew to expect at least 2 years. A lot of 2006′ers thought it’d be less than a year.
2. 2007 people haven’t been waiting as long as 2006, so we’re not as desperate yet. I do think people are waiting to see what happens after the Olympics.
I think it will be very telling to do this same poll at the beginning of 2009 when the Olympics are no longer a factor. I think by then people who were waiting for a speed-up will drop out (assuming we don’t get a speed-up).
May 13th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I agree with amycate, just hadn’t typed it all up yet. She saved me the trouble of having to do so.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
RQ- I have checked 4 adoption agencies websites and learned something interesting. Three of them China Only are painting a slanted view of the wait time. Trying their best to put a positive spin on things. The other one handles adoptions from many countries and has a statement stating “We are no longer accepting applications for the China program at this time”. They seem to be looking at this much more realistically than the China Only agencies.
I am wondering if we could do a survey of agencies and see how many are no longer accepting applications.
I love my daughter to death and thank God we have her. But I have been telling people who ask me to pick another country to adopt from.
May 13th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
I think all of us can do is wait for 5-6 months to see what happens after the Olympics. I hope that the people who are expecting things to speed up are correct. We can’t switch to special needs, so either we drop out or wait. After the Korean Olympics things did speed back up. I hope China will be the same. What else can we do but wait and see what happens? LID 1-2007
May 13th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Thank you, wait4ever, for telling us about things picking up after the Korean Olympics. That’s the best news I’ve heard all year because attrition apparently is not having any affect.
Thanks, RQ, for the information!!!!!
May 13th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I have been in this process for about 3.5 year now and am home with baby at this point. But, ever since I joined RQ, which was just after the slow down happened (Hunan) the talk of a “speed-up” has been around and in 3.5 years it has only continued to get slower. I am amazed that people still hang onto that idea even though all the statitics show otherwise. I think acceptance is a better place to be than the anxiety of waiting each month to see if a speed up is going to happen.
Adomom
May 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Well, I think a speed up is absolutely possible; that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen soon, just that it will/might eventually happen.
Over the life of this program (over a decade old) it has slowed down and sped up many times.
People do what they need to do to get them through the day, the week, the month, and the year(s). For some people this means preparing for the worst (no speed up), and for some it means hoping things will pick up.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
adomom12,
All I have to hang on to right now is hope. I think the same is true for many people. You are lucky you have your baby. I do not and this is our first child. We are not saying things will pick up, just that we hope that it does. Many countries involved in IA and the Olympics slow down considerably. Then, things pick up. This is my HOPE. If it does not, we will deal with it.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
The families were know who are sticking in out where around 30 when the submitted their dossiers. They knew that they wait was going to be 4-5 years. It didn’t matter to them because they were still young enough. However, with that said, they looking into other programs. Most qualify easily because of their age and financial status, so they don’t seem to be too concerned.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“Many countries involved in IA and the Olympics slow down considerably. Then, things pick up.”
wait4ever…can you clarify what countries other than Korea you are referring to. I am struggling to think of any other Olympic host country from recent times that had an IA program.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I am suprised by the size of March 2006. It is even larger than April 2007 which I can understand was influenced by the push to beat the May 1st new regulations. Did something similar happen in March 2006, or why the large number of dossiers at that time? I understand that CNY probably has an effect, as does the fact that more 06 families respond to polls at this point than 07, but even within early 2006 this was a very large month. Random occurance?
LID 4/16/07
May 13th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I think partly it is random, but also I think that the preceeding holidays slowed things down a little for families. I know it did for me. There seem to be a lot of obstacles in getting paperwork finished.
Things seemed to just kind of come together after January and February.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but you state that you think that 3/4 of the people who have pulled out have SN referrals. In another place, you state:
“Some of the individual month numbers are truly heartbreaking. Forty percent of the people who started the process in a couple of months pulled out for one reason or another before they will get their referral.”
Surely you didn’t mean to imply that accepting an SN referral and stepping out of line for an NSN referral is heartbreaking?
May 13th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I agree with brennensmom about the heartbreaking comment. Some people (including us) get logged in for SNs without ever seriously considering going the NSN route. It would be interesting (and impossible to get accurate numbers I realize) to know how many people are LID for a SN child from the beginning. We for instance would count double for attrition - we were LID of Apr 06 and brought home our daughter in Sep 06, and were LID again in Oct 07 for a brother/sister sibling pair which we brought home in Mar 08. We never even considered going NSN. When I look at my 3 beautiful kids and think that my original Apr 06 LID group is still at least a year away from referral, I can’t see why anyone would want to wait when there are so many beautiful children with very minor or no SNs who just have the misfortune to be “too old” or a boy. I wouldn’t trade my 4, 7, and 10 year old kids for any baby. They are too much fun!
May 13th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
“I have been in this process for about 3.5 year now and am home with baby at this point. But, ever since I joined RQ, which was just after the slow down happened (Hunan) the talk of a “speed-up†has been around and in 3.5 years it has only continued to get slower. I am amazed that people still hang onto that idea even though all the statitics show otherwise. I think acceptance is a better place to be than the anxiety of waiting each month to see if a speed up is going to happen. Adomom”
Adomom, I mean no disrespect, but it doesn’t make those of us who *are* still waiting feel any better that we are amazing you with our misguided hope. Please, a little sensitivity.
Best of luck with your baby!
Christina
LID May 18, 2006
May 13th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
brennensmom and fiveamom - that isn’t what I said at all. Don’t put words in my mouth.
I said it is heartbreaking that 40% of the people in those months who started in the program aren’t going to finish it. I didn’t say it was heartbreaking they went to the SN program. I do believe that it is heartbreaking that those hopes and dreams they had when they paperchased got stomped on. And I do worry that some of them just gave up on parenthood all together. Many who were pushing the age limit when they paperchased have now decided they are too old and now they will never be parents. Yes, that is heartbreaking to me. Some of them went to other countries, but some of them put all of their savings into the China adoption and can’t really afford to start over. So yes, that’s heartbreaking, too.
I detest when people twist my words to mean something I didn’t say at all.
May 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
RQ I knew exactly what you mean’t and it is heartbreaking and with a Nov 06 LID we are heartbroken.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
I certainly didn’t mean to twist your words and I apologize that my post read that way. I’m just confused, which is not an unusual occurence for me :)
If 3/4 of the people who left the NSN program accepted an SN referral, then isn’t it actually a 10% and not a 40% attrition rate? Because those 3/4 didn’t actually leave the China program, they just moved to a different “line.”
I hope that your guess of 75% of the attrition is going SN is correct! I also hate to think of that many people losing their dream of a child from China.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
I think the entire thing is heartbreaking. I hate to think of people dropping out, never to achieve their dreams of parenthood. My agency said they hope to see things speed up after the Olympics, but they made no promises. My friend’s agency said they hope of a speed up after the first quarter of 2006 is through. I am thinking March will take until the end of summer of ‘09?? Then will things pick up?? Again, we will have to wait and see. All I know is I just had my 7th Mother’s Day still waiting for a child.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
What amazes me are people who already have their beautiful children at home and spend their time and energy fighting with people who are still waiting in line in regards to how they should think and feel about the wait. Once I receive my referral I won’t care one iota or waste one minute worrying about how someone who is still waiting chooses to cope. I will only wish them well and think good thoughts for them and for all the children who will still be waiting for their families.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
brennensmom, RQ is putting the numbers for us. What people did or did not is all estimation because no one knows for sure where all these people did if they are not anymore in line (with a LID).
May 13th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
We have a June 2007 LID. I knew while paperchasing that the wait times were increasing and read the 5+years projections. I think every family makes the decisions that best fit their needs. We are in our early 40s and are waiting for our second child from China and our daughter is almost 5 years old. I am still hopeful that things will improve after the Olympics and if they don’t we will decide then on how to proceed; however, I am not enthusiastic about waiting another 5 years.
We are on the NSN program, but have informed our agency of some special needs we have researched and we keep an eye on the waiting children lists from our agency.
Anti-Spam word “China” where I feel my next daughter will be born.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
I spoke to quite a few people who were around 48 and they were seriously debating about dropping out of the process entirely. Many have already waited 2 years and they are looking at another 2-4 years is just too much. Even switching to another country is not always viable as there are quite a few age restrictions for the mother. Not to mention if you are with a China only agency you have to find another agency, homestudy, paperchasing etc…only to put into another countries wait list where it can be one to two years.
I know I am thinking about this seriously and I am only turning 40, but w/ a LID of 1/22/07 and at current rate it could be 4 years from now….that is a different ball game for some of us who started this at age 37.
FYI: those of us with early 2007 LID’s were also told 9-12 month waits when we started the process
May 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
I’m in Quebec I have both a SN and NSN file.
There are two types of SN here.
1- If you fill a SN file first it’s send to the CCAA to be matched and then you receive a referral from them.
2- If you fill a NSN first and open up to SN then your file stay in lign for NSN but the Agency might match you with one of the babies’ file they received that matches your criterias and THEN pull out you NSN from the lign up.
May 13th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
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May 13th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
hellofrompgh - you wrote:
> I am wondering if we could do a survey of agencies and see how many are no longer accepting applications.
The wonderful, small, in-it-for-the-kids agency I used to complete my two China adoptions is no longer accepting applications… because they have just gone out of business… after 18 years helping to build families. They were one of the first nine agencies approved to facilitate China adoptions in 1992. Unfortunately, 90% of their clients adopted from China and Guatemala… I am just heartsick over this.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Hi Aprsara We’re in the same track staying in NSN but if a SN is offered to the agency that meets our crieteria…. RQ as you have said in the past your numbers are only as good as the amount you are offered from your readers, do you have a way to compare against past numbers as a whole from any resource so we can see what amount of RQ’s match up to any national, international numbers from the past? So as to get an idea of the whole picture?
May 13th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
hopesemper-
It sounds like we’re in a very similar situation. I adopted my first daughter from China in 2002, and now I’m waiting for my second. My LID is Feb 07, so we have a similar wait. I’m a little older, just turned 45; and I too am keeping my eye on the Waiting Children’s list.
I do believe there will be a baby at the end of all this, whether she be NSN or a WC; and I do believe she will be from China. Let’s hope our girls get their Mei Mei’s sooner than we think.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
I know my agency allows us to switch to special needs. What they said is we can look at the lists and if we find a child we can switch at that time and file all the paper work. Perhaps this what most agencies do. Not switching you over until a child is chosen.
May 13th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
fiveamom,
you say you can’t understand why anyone would wait when “there are so many children with minor or no special needs who just have the misfortune to be too old or a boy”
Don’t you realise that many people don’t have the option of a special needs adoption. Here in the UK for example, our government doesn’t have any agreement with the CCAA for this. With an early March ‘06 LID I would LOVE to be in your postion. How do you think it makes people feel seeing you’ve managed to adopt 2 children in LESS time than they’ve been waiting for one, if that option isn’t open to them???!!!
Marion.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
DebL wrote:
“FYI: those of us with early 2007 LID’s were also told 9-12 month waits when we started the process”
I think your agency should be ashamed of themselves. How they could tell early 2007 LID’ers to expect a 9-12 month wait is incomprehensible to me, given that the families who received referrals in the match group that arrived the first week of January, 2007 had waited 16-17 months from LID to referral.
May 13th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
pandamomma - I was one of the 2007 people who were told by my agency that the wait was 12 - 13 months. However, I was told that when I applied in 09/06, and that was the approximate wait then. My agency did say that the wait was increasing and I was dumb enough to think that the wait would increase by one to two months. By the time we were LID and I joined RQ, the wait was extended by much longer than I thought it would. I just didn’t keep up with it during the paperchase.
LID 04/25/07
May 13th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
RQ: I am sure you have been asked this question before, so thank you in advance. Where does the 27,000 backlog figure come from?
thanks for the data.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Waiting4Kiera~
Ditto for us. When we applied the wait was at 12 months. That seemed very doable to us. We got a letter in December 07 that said the wait was expected to lengthen, possibly to two years. We were disappointed at the time, but were nearly done with our paperchase. We waited 4 more months for our I171H to arrive, and I would give anything to have those months back now as it could literally means a difference in YEARS for our referral. My point is that not all 2007 LIDs had the expectation of a very long wait, and likely we will have the longest wait of all. In hindsight, we now know the statement “the current wait is” doesn’t mean a thing, but at the time, it seemed reasonable to assume it wouldn’t change to this extent.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Findinghope,
Yes, we are in a similar position and have similar names. Your finding hope and mine is always hope. Maybe we will find more common threads. We certainly have time to do that:-(
May 13th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
My husband and I are one of the families who dropped out completely. We were DTC 1/26/06 and LID 3/3/06. We dropped out over a year ago. The lengthening wait and the uncertainty of the process were too much for us - plus, my husband felt he was going to be too old if/when we ever received a referral. He’ll be 44 this fall. We are fortunate enough to have an almost four-year-old son, but I am still sad and disappointed that we won’t have a second child and he won’t have a sibling.
When we started the process back in 2005, we were told the wait was about 10 months. Too bad there was no way to know how long the wait would really be.
I check in here often. I like to live vicariously through all of you :) And I will admit that there is a part of me that REALLY hopes for a miracle and that when the 3/3/06 LIDs get their referrals, we’ll discover that the CCAA forgot to pull our file…I know that chance is slim to none, but I have heard of it happening.
I hope all of you expectant parents make it through this process without too many tears or frustrations. And thanks RQ for all you do.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
I’m another who dropped out. My LID was in 07/06. When I began the process, the wait was lengthening, but I never expected to wait much more than a year. A lot can happen in a year or a year and a half. I became engaged, and since I couldn’t even predict what YEAR I would get a referral, I made the difficult and heartbreaking choice to forfeit the adoption and proceed with our plans to marry.
I do not regret my choice, but we are now dealing with infertility issues. Sigh…Adopting from China is not an option for us again, either, as my husband is 52. I wish I had had a clearer picture of the wait before I began my adoption journey. But who knew back in December 2005 when I submitted my application that it would be like this?
I still read RQ on a daily basis and my heart goes out to those of you still enduring the wait. I guess I’ll keep checking in here until my LID date gets their referrals. I’ve just got to know! :-)
May 13th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
@jaclyn: yes, yes, YES!
What breaks my heart is the high attrition rate in the April 07 - that is the crowd that busted their asses to get logged in before the new rules.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
hawkeye thankyou for your honest post. We too started the process in July 2004, we have an LID of 03/14/06- we too have a letter stating the wait would be 9-10months from LID. Well that was what it was at the exact time our file was sent.
As for age, one can only tell how old they feel and how they would cope with a little one around their feet. I for one are looking forward to the day we are made to feel young again with toys at our feet.
RQ thankyou for your attrition stats, interesting to see how they really play out over time, especially after the Olympics.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Thank you RQ for all you do for us hopefuls.
When we started our adoption in January 2007 we were not given a time line but instead told that times would increase. When our file was logged in on 11-23-07, we were then told by our agency that our wait would be anywhere between 30-33 months. They have been honest with us and have now stated that the wait times could and would get longer.
We will stick in for the long haul because we know this is what we hae dreamed for us.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
It is really sad whichever way one looks at it.
May 13th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Wow, been reading everyone’s posts this evening, and there is definitely an electric charge to many of the posts.
I too feel as though I’m aging out…… just turned 50 in March. I have to hang in there…….. this is our only option to ever parent.
At this rate, I may be 90 when we pick up our baby, but I can tell you this…….. I’ll crawl from New York to China if I have to.
We are all united in our longing for our babies……..
Shelley
lid 3/28/06
May 14th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Fiveamom,
Thats great that you decided to go SN but how many times
do you have to read that very very many couples do not have a choice with SN I am getting tired repeating myself
Im sure we would all love to be given that choice but were not. So please have some compassion for us that we had to stay in line because we had no choice.
May 14th, 2008 at 5:25 am
My heart goes out to all of the people that dropped out :-( I’m a Dec. 2006 LID and I wish it could be like before and everybody gets a baby period (in a reasonable timeframe). So many people are facing hard decisions because of the wait and it just makes me SO sad. I REALLY hope that after the Olympics things’ll get better … But I’m realistic, it could stay the same :-(((((((
R
May 14th, 2008 at 8:12 am
GotchaBack-
I love your attitude, commitment and spirit. You won’t have to crawl from New York to China…I’ll carry you myself! Of course, I’ll be 90 too so the trip may be long and slow :)
You’ve inspired me. When is your LID?
LID Feb 07 and just turned 45!
May 14th, 2008 at 8:49 am
My husband and I are logged in as of 3/27/2007. We were told that we would have a 12-15 month wait. What I find frustrating is the lack of honest answers that agencies are willing to give. We will stick with it. Does anybody worry about China only agencies going out of business?
May 14th, 2008 at 9:46 am
To Chinababy…I do worry that the China only agencies will go out of business. I also do not have a great deal of confidence that there will be a siginificant increase in speed/referrals after the Olympics. It is just a theory, but my husband and I are wondering if this slow down is China’s way to fade out of International Adoptions.
Our agency continues to solicit business and so they maybe able to stay in business. It has got to be a strain on their finances considering they were not expecting this kind of a wait.
May 14th, 2008 at 10:40 am
To all those of you that dropped out, my heart goes out to you. Sometimes it is a greater act of love to know your limitations and chose not to parent.
May 14th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Our daughter is from the Hunan Province. We have been home since Oct. 2005. We are waiting for our other daughter. LID 12/13/06. We are hopeful the wait will decrease, if it continues to increase, we’ll just hold on to hope and wait until we’re all a “forever family”. We are close to 50 and feel as young as ever!
May 14th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
momtwoboys,
We are LID 12/2007 - very close to yours (although maybe a year apart referral wise, sadly). I have gotten some peace about all of this, for now, and am not as preoccupied with what will happen as I was. My daughter, who just turned 8 and is desperate for a little sister, has likewise gotten some peace about it which is good - her crying about it almost nightly was not really helping matters. What a roller coaster we have gotten on.
May 14th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
FindingHope our lid is 3/28/06, but actually there is a possibility that we were booted back to 4/10/06 as the CCAA couldn’t decide if we were worthy to adopt. They pulled our file for 5 weeks, so in all likelihood, we’re not even in our group of 3/28………. I like to fantasize that we were mistakenly placed ahead of our group, hehehe….
Hey, I’m a Pisces, and love to dream…….
Best buy some knee pads for that crawl……… :)
Shelley
lid 3/28/06……..
May 14th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
houstonmomof2bios, we are like you and also have children who are always asking when will they get to go to China and get their new sister. I keep telling them that it will come when it does.
Hoping that it will go a little faster after the olpmoics but have my doubts right now.
Email me off line and we can chat as seeing we might travel around the same time.
momtwoboys647@yahoo.ca
May 14th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I am new to this site and this process and trying to catch up on my knowledge. When everyone refers to the backlog of dossiers being at 20- 30,000, does that number reflect the number of dossiers at CCAA from just the United States or from the world?
thanks!
May 14th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Uuuggghhh….I’m at the back end of the humongous March 06 line. 12%??? Which was the HUGE month that took 6 months to get through? November 05? What % was it of the total at the time?
I keep feeling like we’re soooo close and yet soooo far away…