Comments on: 25th Included http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/ Join the Rumor Queen as she looks for the latest rumors and then analyzes them, trying to figure out what the CCAA will do next. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:09:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: mumarlene http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55148 mumarlene Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:03:19 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55148 ...On a positive note..just think of the excellent parenting skills we are all developing..extreme patience... So, when our wee ones won't eat their veggies...will say that's ok will wait... till your finished...or better yet for those of us getting daughters the wait for the bathroom will have new meaning....any time they spend in there will be warp speed compared to this wait...just trying to spin this..on the happy side.. …On a positive note..just think of the excellent parenting skills we are all developing..extreme patience… So, when our wee ones won’t eat their veggies…will say that’s ok will wait… till your finished…or better yet for those of us getting daughters the wait for the bathroom will have new meaning….any time they spend in there will be warp speed compared to this wait…just trying to spin this..on the happy side..

]]> By: Mom2Isabel http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55144 Mom2Isabel Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:19:37 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55144 My "Favorite" is when the agencies put on their websites, "The current wait is 29 [insert any # here] months", which leads people to believe that if they apply, it will be the same timeframe. There are very few agencies that acknowledge outright the increasing wait month to month. BTW, I find the "disclaimer" (A.K.A. Cover your butt) of "Referral times may change at any time" extremely disceptive. JMHO, Laureen www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary My “Favorite” is when the agencies put on their websites, “The current wait is 29 [insert any # here] months”, which leads people to believe that if they apply, it will be the same timeframe. There are very few agencies that acknowledge outright the increasing wait month to month. BTW, I find the “disclaimer” (A.K.A. Cover your butt) of “Referral times may change at any time” extremely disceptive.

JMHO,
Laureen
http://www.babysites.com/sites/laureenmary

]]> By: mumarlene http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55143 mumarlene Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:02:38 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55143 Nancyclod, ...With a LID date of March 17, 2006...with regret...I think you are right on target....Marlene.. Nancyclod,

…With a LID date of March 17, 2006…with regret…I think you are right on target….Marlene..

]]> By: nancyclod http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55108 nancyclod Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:59:20 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55108 Congrats to those who are receiving referrals. Be sure to share your photos as we are living vicariously through you! I'm trying to be optimistic, but with the Olympics coming my prediction would be that it will take until at least November or December to get through February referrals and that us mid-Marchers (3.14.06) will see our referrals in the first quarter of 2009. I hope I'm wrong, but this is what I will plan for. Congrats to those who are receiving referrals. Be sure to share your photos as we are living vicariously through you!

I’m trying to be optimistic, but with the Olympics coming my prediction would be that it will take until at least November or December to get through February referrals and that us mid-Marchers (3.14.06) will see our referrals in the first quarter of 2009. I hope I’m wrong, but this is what I will plan for.

]]> By: beatr1ce http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55104 beatr1ce Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:19:47 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55104 So if someone has been told a cutoff date, that would mean they are done matching and referrals should be mailed soon...right? Finally NEXT! 1/23/06 So if someone has been told a cutoff date, that would mean they are done matching and referrals should be mailed soon…right?

Finally NEXT!
1/23/06

]]> By: FindingHope http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55103 FindingHope Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:19:06 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55103 The sad thing is that I was perfectly willing to wait 3-4 years. We would just work our lives around that. But when we start talking about 7-8 years, how do you adjust for that? I'll be in my 50's. My first daughter will be approaching her teen years. My first daughter loves her gramma and papa SO MUCH, and 8 years may mean that my second child doesn't get to have gramma and papa. They're old. I'm getting old. We're all getting old. The thought of 8 years makes me think I won't be able to have my second child. I just want to cry. In fact, I think I will. The sad thing is that I was perfectly willing to wait 3-4 years. We would just work our lives around that. But when we start talking about 7-8 years, how do you adjust for that? I’ll be in my 50’s. My first daughter will be approaching her teen years. My first daughter loves her gramma and papa SO MUCH, and 8 years may mean that my second child doesn’t get to have gramma and papa. They’re old. I’m getting old. We’re all getting old. The thought of 8 years makes me think I won’t be able to have my second child. I just want to cry. In fact, I think I will.

]]> By: china4ever http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55102 china4ever Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:07:36 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55102 I so wish they would do more too! I really was hoping for all of January to be included this time and to finally have my February friends on the charts and my March friends not far behind! (still hoping the rumor isn't true and there are more included!!) Please know that my happiness over being next is tempered by the agonizing wait that we all have felt or are still feeling. While our wait has been so long, I know the wait ahead if they remain at this pace, is even longer. So just please know that while it is finally time for us to celebrate, my heart does ache for my friends who are still waiting, it is never a party unless everyone is invited - still hoping for more "invitations" in every batch! So you all just go ahead and feel what you need to feel - I've been there too. It hurts deeply, stings, and sometimes just makes me angry... I would never want you to feel like you have to hide your emotions - right now I am happy, but I have to say, I totally disagree with folks who say you just "forget the waiting" - um, nope, I'll never forget this waiting - it has changed something inside me - I am a different person. I am much more patient, I treasure memories with my family more deeply, and I understand the value in just "one more day"... The waiting for me has been growth and hurt and lots of giving up my false perceptions of control. So I'm not ever going to be one of those who says - it just fades away... it has become a part of me and soon it will be magnified by the awesomeness of seeing the reason for the waiting - and yes, that will make it all worth it!!! I so wish they would do more too! I really was hoping for all of January to be included this time and to finally have my February friends on the charts and my March friends not far behind! (still hoping the rumor isn’t true and there are more included!!)

Please know that my happiness over being next is tempered by the agonizing wait that we all have felt or are still feeling. While our wait has been so long, I know the wait ahead if they remain at this pace, is even longer. So just please know that while it is finally time for us to celebrate, my heart does ache for my friends who are still waiting, it is never a party unless everyone is invited - still hoping for more “invitations” in every batch! So you all just go ahead and feel what you need to feel - I’ve been there too. It hurts deeply, stings, and sometimes just makes me angry… I would never want you to feel like you have to hide your emotions - right now I am happy, but I have to say, I totally disagree with folks who say you just “forget the waiting” - um, nope, I’ll never forget this waiting - it has changed something inside me - I am a different person. I am much more patient, I treasure memories with my family more deeply, and I understand the value in just “one more day”… The waiting for me has been growth and hurt and lots of giving up my false perceptions of control. So I’m not ever going to be one of those who says - it just fades away… it has become a part of me and soon it will be magnified by the awesomeness of seeing the reason for the waiting - and yes, that will make it all worth it!!!

]]> By: Molpugh http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55101 Molpugh Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:05:26 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55101 catherinethegreat: I just checked our agency's web-site and today they are saying "...22-36 months after we send your file to China, they will send us a photo..." I find this VERY optimistic (to put it politely). Of course, that would be terrific for us since I calculate our wait at about 8 years right now and at the time we were DTC our agency's web-site was saying 20 months. Our SW recently emailed us that the agency told her that our wait would be 28 mos. I just laughed. At the end of the day, the wait will be whatever it will be -- my mindset is to project the future based upon the best facts at hand and then hope to be pleasantly surprised, but not to count on it. catherinethegreat: I just checked our agency’s web-site and today they are saying “…22-36 months after we send your file to China, they will send us a photo…”

I find this VERY optimistic (to put it politely). Of course, that would be terrific for us since I calculate our wait at about 8 years right now and at the time we were DTC our agency’s web-site was saying 20 months.

Our SW recently emailed us that the agency told her that our wait would be 28 mos. I just laughed. At the end of the day, the wait will be whatever it will be — my mindset is to project the future based upon the best facts at hand and then hope to be pleasantly surprised, but not to count on it.

]]> By: catherinethegreat http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55100 catherinethegreat Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:54:33 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55100 I agree with threeblue's posting. Its so hard to know what to think these days about the China program. Threeblue just what are agencies saying about the wait these days? I see agency websites acknowledging up to 5 years for the wait times....or others that just don't address the wait on their websites (and this is bad enough). Its clear to me that China needs to tighten up their rules again or to hold off taking any new files for awhile (which although painful, I think they should seriously considering doing for perhaps 6 months). Why on earth the CCAA keeps taking new files from agencies is beyond me. And if I was a China only agency, I would be frantically trying to branch out to other countries...the writing is on the wall!! Having said all of this my personal belief is that the CCAA will honour their committments to their IA program...its just going to take a very long time to do so. So sorry, for everyone waiting...this is not fun (I remember!!!). I agree with threeblue’s posting. Its so hard to know what to think these days about the China program. Threeblue just what are agencies saying about the wait these days? I see agency websites acknowledging up to 5 years for the wait times….or others that just don’t address the wait on their websites (and this is bad enough).

Its clear to me that China needs to tighten up their rules again or to hold off taking any new files for awhile (which although painful, I think they should seriously considering doing for perhaps 6 months). Why on earth the CCAA keeps taking new files from agencies is beyond me. And if I was a China only agency, I would be frantically trying to branch out to other countries…the writing is on the wall!!

Having said all of this my personal belief is that the CCAA will honour their committments to their IA program…its just going to take a very long time to do so. So sorry, for everyone waiting…this is not fun (I remember!!!).

]]> By: millie12 http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/07/02/25th-included/#comment-55099 millie12 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:50:44 +0000 http://chinaadopttalk.com/?p=1710#comment-55099 I agree Findinghope and penelope1 This is one of the hardest roads to travel. I too am finding it very stressful, its the not knowing. Everything is tied up. Jobs, Medical, House moves, afraid to do anything, afraid to get sick. afraid of any changes, that may cause you not to get a referral. I too am happy for people receiving referrals, without sounding too selfish, I wish it were me. Please someone somewhere give us some information so we can make tough decisions. I agree Findinghope and penelope1

This is one of the hardest roads to travel.

I too am finding it very stressful, its the not knowing.
Everything is tied up. Jobs, Medical, House moves, afraid to do anything, afraid to get sick. afraid of any changes, that may cause you not to get a referral.

I too am happy for people receiving referrals, without sounding too selfish, I wish it were me.

Please someone somewhere give us some information so we can make tough decisions.

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