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By: 2qts4me

2qts4me — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:59:42 +0000

With regards to SN’s. We went that route because we wanted to, we wanted a boy, older than 3 and with a SN’s that we could handle. There were about 4 families that adopted boys. Our agency said that boys are hard to place with SN’s and our process went very quickly. After we came home, our agency changed their SN’s program completely. They chose the families who petitioned for the most desirable children, always a girl, under 2 and with very minor needs. Some children had 20 families petitioning for them. It lead to a lot of hurt feelings, anger, disappointment and resentment towards those families who were chose. Now of course, it has changed even more with the CCAA in far more control. They also have made new rules and are very selective about families. However, they are no longer receiving files for the most desirable children (for want of a better word) as they are now considered NSN’s because they have had surgery to correct whatever was wrong (minor) and are now deemed
NSN’s.

We are lucky we adopted our sweet boy when we did, he is an angel, and far less work than most NSN children.
We are lucky to have 2 healthy dd’s, one from Haiti, one from China and our China prince.

By: pandamomma

pandamomma — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:43:38 +0000

“regarding China stopping accepting new dossiers – dont the agencies use the money new applicants are putting in now to cover the costs of families travelling now, who paid their fees over 3 years ago?”

It depends on the agency. Our agency does not invoice for the Program Fee until AFTER referral. Prior to referral, we paid a nominal application fee, the homestudy fee, and the dossier fee.

Our friends are with an agency that required ALL of the fees, including the Program and Post-Placement fees, prior to sending their dossier to China.

By: jaclyn

jaclyn — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:06:46 +0000

regarding China stopping accepting new dossiers – dont the agencies use the money new applicants are putting in now to cover the costs of families travelling now, who paid their fees over 3 years ago? if dossiers stopped being accepted, then how would our agencies survive, especially china-only agencies? they would have no annual revenue to continue on
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The problem I have with that is it is starting to sound like a ponzi scheme and ponzi schemes are illegal. It is illegal for a business to accept money from customers today to keep their business afloat knowing that customers who are paying today will not have a turn and will not have a referral in the future.

Agencies should have been practicing better money management. Before the slow down, referrals were coming in fast, really fast, faster than ever before. Agencies should have been safe guarding this extra wealth for the times when referrals slow down. If they managed their money well, between good management and the few nsn adoptions and sn adoptions they are currently placing most should be able to whether the storm.

By: 4ever

4ever — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:07:05 +0000

True there are many who receive SN referrals who are accepting children with more severe SN and I admire people who are willing to do so. And they definitely should be able to pursue those adoptions ASAP. However, there is are many, many people who are also receiving minor/correctable SN who are just recently LID. It all depends on luck. I understand that but it still feels frustrating to be disappointed month after month.

By: Noendinsight

Noendinsight — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:24:41 +0000

“The 2008 placement numbers from the State Department should be out soon – that will be the best indicator of the state of the program.”

Does anyone know when these numbers become available or when they have been in the past?

PIJill you relayed a conversation in a prior post you had with your agency. Can you share your LID, or at least the month?

Thanks!

By: Noendinsight

Noendinsight — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:19:39 +0000

The new requirements last time that began 5/1/07 were announced on 12/8/06. Rumors however, had begun as early as August 2006. I think they have a meetings in November???

If this is going to happen, I just want to find out NOW. I can’t take much more of this. We are days away from our 30 month LID anniversary.

By: wait4ever

wait4ever — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:50:10 +0000

Katiebug,
What state do you live in????

By: PIJill

PIJill — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:14:10 +0000

I wish we could get over the ‘everyone’ gets a referral stuff. Nearly everyone gets a referral. Not everyone does, and you can be denied in the matching phase, in the same way that you can pass the review room and then months/years later to be questioned about items in your dossier that you assumed were fine because you passed review. It is very unlikely to be denied at the point of matching, but it can happen. And it doesn’t matter if it is one in a thousand, when you are that one, something I had the bad fortune to witness last year, and we have seen other family’s stories come up on APC and here.

By: slanz

slanz — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:13:25 +0000

CCAA has stated that those that wait in line will get a referral and I believe that.

By: china dad 1

china dad 1 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:46:26 +0000

It would not suprize me to see tighter limits on the number of children already at home. If childless PDAP’s in China are being “passed over” for large families in the West, one could argue that the PDAP is “more deserving” particularly in light of the law that states DA first – IA only as a last resort.

The 2008 placement numbers from the State Department should be out soon – that will be the best indicator of the state of the program. In reality many of the child that will be adopted in the second half of 2009 have not been born yet so everthing going forward is a guess. It’s all about how many are in line in front of you, and unfortunatly DA get to cut to the front of the line.