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		<title>By: pkchina2005</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2008/11/17/sibling-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-58676</link>
		<dc:creator>pkchina2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s actually a lot of creativity in logic, it&#039;s just different than the creativity in drawing, painting, etc. And there is a lot of logic in drawing, painting, etc but it&#039;s expression in that medium is different than in others.

Perhaps rather than talk to your girls about who they are (smart, creative, etc.) you can talk about how they express these aspects differently. I think maybe that is what the book is trying to get at.

Michael Jordan was a fantastic basketball player so it would be easy to say at his core he is a superior athlete. But when he tried to express it in baseball that excellence didn&#039;t come through as well as it did in basketball. His athleticism was designed to be expressed in basketball. He is a superior athlete and was &quot;good&quot; at baseball. He was great at basketball. Being less great at baseball didn&#039;t make him not a great athlete.

I think the point is to try to open our minds to the possibilities of what we CAN do if we don&#039;t label ourselves or our kids. If I tell myself I&#039;m not athletic, then maybe I end up sloppy in all my physical expressions. If I tell myself I express physical discipline and skills in other areas like eating right, weeding, even being able to sit at a computer all day, then I end up with a more positive view of myself as a whole.

Just some randome thoughts anyway. Good topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s actually a lot of creativity in logic, it&#8217;s just different than the creativity in drawing, painting, etc. And there is a lot of logic in drawing, painting, etc but it&#8217;s expression in that medium is different than in others.</p>
<p>Perhaps rather than talk to your girls about who they are (smart, creative, etc.) you can talk about how they express these aspects differently. I think maybe that is what the book is trying to get at.</p>
<p>Michael Jordan was a fantastic basketball player so it would be easy to say at his core he is a superior athlete. But when he tried to express it in baseball that excellence didn&#8217;t come through as well as it did in basketball. His athleticism was designed to be expressed in basketball. He is a superior athlete and was &#8220;good&#8221; at baseball. He was great at basketball. Being less great at baseball didn&#8217;t make him not a great athlete.</p>
<p>I think the point is to try to open our minds to the possibilities of what we CAN do if we don&#8217;t label ourselves or our kids. If I tell myself I&#8217;m not athletic, then maybe I end up sloppy in all my physical expressions. If I tell myself I express physical discipline and skills in other areas like eating right, weeding, even being able to sit at a computer all day, then I end up with a more positive view of myself as a whole.</p>
<p>Just some randome thoughts anyway. Good topic.</p>
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		<title>By: hlc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RQ, I love how you work things out. I also think there is a difference between defining someone by what they do and acknowledging that some people may excel at some (or many) things, while others need to work harder. We are all more than our particular talents and skills. I think you are really on to something when you encourage your children to participate in things that might not be their strongest talents. It builds character, and makes people much more interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RQ, I love how you work things out. I also think there is a difference between defining someone by what they do and acknowledging that some people may excel at some (or many) things, while others need to work harder. We are all more than our particular talents and skills. I think you are really on to something when you encourage your children to participate in things that might not be their strongest talents. It builds character, and makes people much more interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Noendinsight</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t related to this post, but it&#039;s important enough I wanted to put it here rather than just in the forum.

Adoption - Statistics

All statistics given correspond with the U.S. Government fiscal year, which begins on October 1 and ends on September 30. For example: Adoption statistics for 2008 = Number of adoptions from October 1, 2007 – September 30, 2008.

Detailed Adoption Information From China To The United State:

The Total Adoptions from CHINA from 1998 to 2008 is:  60236 

Fiscal Year Total Adoptions 
1998 4243 
1999 4108 
2000 5058 
2001 4705 
2002 4677 
2003 6857 
2004 7038 
2005 7903 
2006 6492 
2007 5453 
2008 3254 

remove spaces:

www. adoption . state. gov/ news/ StarCountryData .php?country = China

adoption .state. gov/ news / world_map. html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t related to this post, but it&#8217;s important enough I wanted to put it here rather than just in the forum.</p>
<p>Adoption &#8211; Statistics</p>
<p>All statistics given correspond with the U.S. Government fiscal year, which begins on October 1 and ends on September 30. For example: Adoption statistics for 2008 = Number of adoptions from October 1, 2007 – September 30, 2008.</p>
<p>Detailed Adoption Information From China To The United State:</p>
<p>The Total Adoptions from CHINA from 1998 to 2008 is:  60236 </p>
<p>Fiscal Year Total Adoptions<br />
1998 4243<br />
1999 4108<br />
2000 5058<br />
2001 4705<br />
2002 4677<br />
2003 6857<br />
2004 7038<br />
2005 7903<br />
2006 6492<br />
2007 5453<br />
2008 3254 </p>
<p>remove spaces:</p>
<p>www. adoption . state. gov/ news/ StarCountryData .php?country = China</p>
<p>adoption .state. gov/ news / world_map. html</p>
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		<title>By: waiting for megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>waiting for megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to hijack the post, but this is an article that has stats on the number of adoptions.  2008 China adoptions come in at 3909, down from a peak of 7906 in 2005.  (Not sure what the fiscal year is - maybe ending October?)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hpcgfbD11-q-IduwC31ZJH6O0FrgD94GUUKG0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to hijack the post, but this is an article that has stats on the number of adoptions.  2008 China adoptions come in at 3909, down from a peak of 7906 in 2005.  (Not sure what the fiscal year is &#8211; maybe ending October?)</p>
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		<title>By: luvluv</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think love and caring goes a long way.  Daily I see kids who are mistreated or neglected.  Yesterday, a former 8th grade grad came in with her new 4 pound early term baby...all smelling of smoke.  No doubt they love the new bundle, but the way we would hope?  I don&#039;t know.  What I do know after 24 years in education, dealing with parents, social workers and specialists, there are no sure fire answers.  Providing a safe, nurturing, and stimulating environment if a great beginning.  Sounds like you are doing an wonderful job with your girls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think love and caring goes a long way.  Daily I see kids who are mistreated or neglected.  Yesterday, a former 8th grade grad came in with her new 4 pound early term baby&#8230;all smelling of smoke.  No doubt they love the new bundle, but the way we would hope?  I don&#8217;t know.  What I do know after 24 years in education, dealing with parents, social workers and specialists, there are no sure fire answers.  Providing a safe, nurturing, and stimulating environment if a great beginning.  Sounds like you are doing an wonderful job with your girls!</p>
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		<title>By: tlday13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s the best take to have, RQ.  Young kids are so smart and literal it would be foolish to ignore there are very real differences in natural talent and abilities... but like you said, that doesn&#039;t mean  someone can&#039;t do something they don&#039;t have a natural gift in... it means they have to work harder at it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s the best take to have, RQ.  Young kids are so smart and literal it would be foolish to ignore there are very real differences in natural talent and abilities&#8230; but like you said, that doesn&#8217;t mean  someone can&#8217;t do something they don&#8217;t have a natural gift in&#8230; it means they have to work harder at it!</p>
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		<title>By: waiting4Ash</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks RQ!

We were always defined by what we could not do in our house. &quot;She&#039;s the bad speller.&quot; &quot;She can&#039;t draw.&quot; &quot;She can&#039;t hit a baseball.&quot; Etc.

It always made me very uncomfortable to try anything new, because I was afraid to be the &quot;One who can&#039;t do X.&quot; It wasn&#039;t until I was an adult and had a friend ask me why didn&#039;t I do &quot;Y&quot;. I answered &quot;Well I probably won&#039;t be able to do it.&quot; The friend just gave me a weird look and talked me into trying. Turns out...I excell at it!

RQ, Thanks again, a whole bunch, for posting that info. I have sworn that I will do my best not to define my child by what she can or can&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks RQ!</p>
<p>We were always defined by what we could not do in our house. &#8220;She&#8217;s the bad speller.&#8221; &#8220;She can&#8217;t draw.&#8221; &#8220;She can&#8217;t hit a baseball.&#8221; Etc.</p>
<p>It always made me very uncomfortable to try anything new, because I was afraid to be the &#8220;One who can&#8217;t do X.&#8221; It wasn&#8217;t until I was an adult and had a friend ask me why didn&#8217;t I do &#8220;Y&#8221;. I answered &#8220;Well I probably won&#8217;t be able to do it.&#8221; The friend just gave me a weird look and talked me into trying. Turns out&#8230;I excell at it!</p>
<p>RQ, Thanks again, a whole bunch, for posting that info. I have sworn that I will do my best not to define my child by what she can or can&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: fortheloveof...china</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so now I&#039;m going to order the book. I&#039;ve been talking about it for two years and although we don&#039;t have a sibling yet, I&#039;m intrigued. Thanks for sharing your experiences and insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so now I&#8217;m going to order the book. I&#8217;ve been talking about it for two years and although we don&#8217;t have a sibling yet, I&#8217;m intrigued. Thanks for sharing your experiences and insights.</p>
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		<title>By: waiting for megan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RQ, I think we always worry that we will screw up our kids.  I can definitely empathize with you.  I have 2 boys, 11 and 13.  My older son is brilliant but really has to struggle to get good grades because he also has to deal with ADD.  His brilliance doesn&#039;t come through with tests, but, for example, he figured out the food chain and verbalized it beautifully at 2 (and declared himself a vegetarian).  But things seem to come easier for my younger son - he whips through homework, gets the same grades as his older brother with little effort and is the star athlete.  To add insult to injury - this summer he passed his older brother in height and shoe size.  Sigh.  It has been a challenge to keep the rivalry to a low roar.  However, I have used a similar explanation to your comments to GG when talking with both of them. People do have different talents and choose to focus on some more than others.  It&#039;s our choices, talent and determination that make us unique.  It seems to have helped a bit here too....   good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RQ, I think we always worry that we will screw up our kids.  I can definitely empathize with you.  I have 2 boys, 11 and 13.  My older son is brilliant but really has to struggle to get good grades because he also has to deal with ADD.  His brilliance doesn&#8217;t come through with tests, but, for example, he figured out the food chain and verbalized it beautifully at 2 (and declared himself a vegetarian).  But things seem to come easier for my younger son &#8211; he whips through homework, gets the same grades as his older brother with little effort and is the star athlete.  To add insult to injury &#8211; this summer he passed his older brother in height and shoe size.  Sigh.  It has been a challenge to keep the rivalry to a low roar.  However, I have used a similar explanation to your comments to GG when talking with both of them. People do have different talents and choose to focus on some more than others.  It&#8217;s our choices, talent and determination that make us unique.  It seems to have helped a bit here too&#8230;.   good luck!</p>
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