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		<title>By: LID 09/12/06 for Mia Jade</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2009/06/22/projections-24/comment-page-1/#comment-64512</link>
		<dc:creator>LID 09/12/06 for Mia Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents, we decided to let our first I600 expire when we realized one more would not do it for us.  Our agency (large China only) actually supported/encouraged it.  We did the Hague training online, no problem.  It has been one less thing to worry about as we would be looking at doing our third round now.  My social worker has not expressed that the I800 has been any big deal and I hear it is taking about the same time to get back, at least w/ our local USCIS.  I guess we won&#039;t know if it was the right decision until later but it&#039;s been nice to not have to put out the extra money and experience the extra stress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents, we decided to let our first I600 expire when we realized one more would not do it for us.  Our agency (large China only) actually supported/encouraged it.  We did the Hague training online, no problem.  It has been one less thing to worry about as we would be looking at doing our third round now.  My social worker has not expressed that the I800 has been any big deal and I hear it is taking about the same time to get back, at least w/ our local USCIS.  I guess we won&#8217;t know if it was the right decision until later but it&#8217;s been nice to not have to put out the extra money and experience the extra stress.</p>
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		<title>By: ladybugrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladybugrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO NOT&lt; I REPEAT&lt; DO NOT let your I600/I171H expire!  Our agency sent our in 5 days late in April 08 and we just now got approved for our I800a. Granted we are Americans living overseas but it took a long time and more than enough frustration! We had to get police and Child abuse clearances for every state and country that we have lived in since the age of 18. That took a long time! PLUS we had to pay the fees even though it was a renewal for the I600.  I imagine that you will have to pay fees again just because it is a I800a application. Avoid it if you can!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO NOT&lt; I REPEAT&lt; DO NOT let your I600/I171H expire!  Our agency sent our in 5 days late in April 08 and we just now got approved for our I800a. Granted we are Americans living overseas but it took a long time and more than enough frustration! We had to get police and Child abuse clearances for every state and country that we have lived in since the age of 18. That took a long time! PLUS we had to pay the fees even though it was a renewal for the I600.  I imagine that you will have to pay fees again just because it is a I800a application. Avoid it if you can!</p>
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		<title>By: sewhopeful22</title>
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		<dc:creator>sewhopeful22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ladeeesquire - 

Thanks for not being offended that I didn&#039;t agree.  I just didn&#039;t want people with 27 LID&#039;s getting the idea that they might be next.  

And yes, I agree with RQ that they could do much bigger batches... but for whatever reason... they are choosing not to at this time. (but once I&#039;m referred it will speed up! : )

It IS sad that a 3 or 4 day batch would be a big deal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ladeeesquire &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for not being offended that I didn&#8217;t agree.  I just didn&#8217;t want people with 27 LID&#8217;s getting the idea that they might be next.  </p>
<p>And yes, I agree with RQ that they could do much bigger batches&#8230; but for whatever reason&#8230; they are choosing not to at this time. (but once I&#8217;m referred it will speed up! : )</p>
<p>It IS sad that a 3 or 4 day batch would be a big deal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BigDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait4ever,

You are in the same boat that so many us have been in during this painful wait.  I can&#039;t tell you how many long conversations my wife and I have had over the last 3 years about bailing, changing countries, or going domestic (sounds like &quot;going postal&quot;).

Everyone&#039;s situation is different financially but if you can swing it I would not let your I-600a expire.  There are many people hung up in the I-800 quagmire right now.  

The reason we kept sticking it out is during those long conversations we were never able to come up with a good alternate solution to build our family.  What other country can you go to?  How stable is that other countries program?  What hoops do they make you jump through?  We were always worried that we would just end up in a different slow line or even worse, a line that would completely stop.

I really feel for you, good luck to you...and all of us for that matter.

Big D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait4ever,</p>
<p>You are in the same boat that so many us have been in during this painful wait.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many long conversations my wife and I have had over the last 3 years about bailing, changing countries, or going domestic (sounds like &#8220;going postal&#8221;).</p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s situation is different financially but if you can swing it I would not let your I-600a expire.  There are many people hung up in the I-800 quagmire right now.  </p>
<p>The reason we kept sticking it out is during those long conversations we were never able to come up with a good alternate solution to build our family.  What other country can you go to?  How stable is that other countries program?  What hoops do they make you jump through?  We were always worried that we would just end up in a different slow line or even worse, a line that would completely stop.</p>
<p>I really feel for you, good luck to you&#8230;and all of us for that matter.</p>
<p>Big D</p>
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		<title>By: Emily's Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justwaiting -- yay!!  thanks for that vote of confidence!  love to hear those words, &quot;we will be in&quot;!  and glad to meet another fellow 3/22&#039;er!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justwaiting &#8212; yay!!  thanks for that vote of confidence!  love to hear those words, &#8220;we will be in&#8221;!  and glad to meet another fellow 3/22&#8242;er!!</p>
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		<title>By: ladeeesquire</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladeeesquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sewhopeful~ 
you&#039;re right and in re-reading my post (done at work and way too quickly obviously, sorry) I did not mean that I thought there was a good chance that the 3/27 families would get their referral next month. That would be fantastic but unlikely. What I meant to say was that there is some middle ground, that point between &quot;spring 2008 small&quot; aka 3/22 and &quot;winter 2008 horrid&quot; aka 3/27 that is likely. IMO, and I have no other info besides watching the referrals and looking at the polls just like all of us, think its likely that there will be a larger than &quot;spring 2008 small&quot; batch and that referrals will go through some date between 3/22 and 3/27 and not be a teeny, tiny 1 or 2 day batch. 

Its horrible that 3-4 days is something we&#039;ve come to wish for. sigh. 

susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sewhopeful~<br />
you&#8217;re right and in re-reading my post (done at work and way too quickly obviously, sorry) I did not mean that I thought there was a good chance that the 3/27 families would get their referral next month. That would be fantastic but unlikely. What I meant to say was that there is some middle ground, that point between &#8220;spring 2008 small&#8221; aka 3/22 and &#8220;winter 2008 horrid&#8221; aka 3/27 that is likely. IMO, and I have no other info besides watching the referrals and looking at the polls just like all of us, think its likely that there will be a larger than &#8220;spring 2008 small&#8221; batch and that referrals will go through some date between 3/22 and 3/27 and not be a teeny, tiny 1 or 2 day batch. </p>
<p>Its horrible that 3-4 days is something we&#8217;ve come to wish for. sigh. </p>
<p>susan</p>
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		<title>By: justwaiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>justwaiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m another 3/22, and don&#039;t worry, we will be in!!! I know it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another 3/22, and don&#8217;t worry, we will be in!!! I know it!</p>
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		<title>By: BethA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BethA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, our agency said, &quot;Do NOT let your I600A paperwork expire - no matter what!&quot;  Our social worker said going through the I-800 work was much more extensive than the I600A.  Our LID is soon, so we&#039;re in a different situation on the quantity of renewals, but we&#039;ve done a few! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, our agency said, &#8220;Do NOT let your I600A paperwork expire &#8211; no matter what!&#8221;  Our social worker said going through the I-800 work was much more extensive than the I600A.  Our LID is soon, so we&#8217;re in a different situation on the quantity of renewals, but we&#8217;ve done a few! :)</p>
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		<title>By: wait4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JourneytoMia,
Thanks.  I was considering that too.  The only thing is our agency is not Hague accredited.  We would pay a lot in fees to transfer.  Also, I read the 1-800 is more difficult and it could take 6 months to get back.  I will consider it.  

RQ, 
I have a question.  If we keep re-newing, and our paperwork is still good under the I600, would we have to do the I800 in 2013 anyway??  My fear is that we get a referral late 2012 and travel in 2013.  I read everyone must be Hague 1-1-2013.  Is that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JourneytoMia,<br />
Thanks.  I was considering that too.  The only thing is our agency is not Hague accredited.  We would pay a lot in fees to transfer.  Also, I read the 1-800 is more difficult and it could take 6 months to get back.  I will consider it.  </p>
<p>RQ,<br />
I have a question.  If we keep re-newing, and our paperwork is still good under the I600, would we have to do the I800 in 2013 anyway??  My fear is that we get a referral late 2012 and travel in 2013.  I read everyone must be Hague 1-1-2013.  Is that right?</p>
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		<title>By: JourneytoMia</title>
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		<dc:creator>JourneytoMia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait4Ever,

I was just going to chime in &amp; say that if you meet the new regs, you could just let your I-171H expire.  Yes, you will become a Hague case, but that shouldn&#039;t be a problem as long as you meet both sets of regs~old &amp; new.  You can wait till you get closer &amp; then just renew once instead of renewing multiple times.  You keep your LID in China.  Everything will remain the same, you will just be Hague.  I am certainly no expert.  However, this is what we have been advised from several agencies &amp; others in the International Adoption Community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait4Ever,</p>
<p>I was just going to chime in &amp; say that if you meet the new regs, you could just let your I-171H expire.  Yes, you will become a Hague case, but that shouldn&#8217;t be a problem as long as you meet both sets of regs~old &amp; new.  You can wait till you get closer &amp; then just renew once instead of renewing multiple times.  You keep your LID in China.  Everything will remain the same, you will just be Hague.  I am certainly no expert.  However, this is what we have been advised from several agencies &amp; others in the International Adoption Community.</p>
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