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		<title>By: HoosierBaby</title>
		<link>http://chinaadopttalk.com/2009/11/17/a-random-post/comment-page-1/#comment-67632</link>
		<dc:creator>HoosierBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more teacher chiming in.  I also teach high school freshmen.  It&#039;s scary how similar the behavior can be between them and my 3-year-old.  She&#039;s recently started, and we&#039;re nipping it in the bud, turning what I say back to me.  For example, if I tell her she needs to calm down, she&#039;ll respond with you calm down with the emphasis on the you.  Yesterday afternoon, I told my last class of the day that they&#039;d been acting crazy the last few classes (Friday and Monday), and they needed to calm down or I&#039;d have to move them back to their original assigned seats.  One male freshman student responded with You calm down.  

Yes, the exact same response from the 3-year-old and the 14-year-old.  They both got the same response from me, too. ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more teacher chiming in.  I also teach high school freshmen.  It&#8217;s scary how similar the behavior can be between them and my 3-year-old.  She&#8217;s recently started, and we&#8217;re nipping it in the bud, turning what I say back to me.  For example, if I tell her she needs to calm down, she&#8217;ll respond with you calm down with the emphasis on the you.  Yesterday afternoon, I told my last class of the day that they&#8217;d been acting crazy the last few classes (Friday and Monday), and they needed to calm down or I&#8217;d have to move them back to their original assigned seats.  One male freshman student responded with You calm down.  </p>
<p>Yes, the exact same response from the 3-year-old and the 14-year-old.  They both got the same response from me, too. ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: sammarshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>sammarshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the &quot;Your xxx year old&quot; by Louise Bates Ames.  They seem to be a fairly good explanation of what to expect at each age and the reason behind it.  

And I agree with Love and Logic, I even find myself using the strategies with my husband sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the &#8220;Your xxx year old&#8221; by Louise Bates Ames.  They seem to be a fairly good explanation of what to expect at each age and the reason behind it.  </p>
<p>And I agree with Love and Logic, I even find myself using the strategies with my husband sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: waitingforholly</title>
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		<dc:creator>waitingforholly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teacher and cannot say enough good things about the &quot;Love and Logic&quot; books. So helpful. The strategies really work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teacher and cannot say enough good things about the &#8220;Love and Logic&#8221; books. So helpful. The strategies really work!</p>
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		<title>By: starnauld</title>
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		<dc:creator>starnauld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I teach middle school and my daughter just turned four.  I often say that some days there isn&#039;t much of a difference between 3 &amp; 4 and 13 &amp; 14!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach middle school and my daughter just turned four.  I often say that some days there isn&#8217;t much of a difference between 3 &amp; 4 and 13 &amp; 14!</p>
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		<title>By: RumorQueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>RumorQueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RK and I knew a decent amount of Chinese before adopting, and we&#039;ve learned a lot more in the years since we adopted GG.

One of the things I learned from adult adoptees was that you shouldn&#039;t say &quot;this is your culture, go learn about it&quot;. That puts the child separate from the family and makes them feel as if they are &quot;different&quot;. It can also make them resent learning about the culture of their birth country. So many of them had such bad feelings around being dropped off to learn &quot;their culture&quot;, I didn&#039;t want to do that to my kids. Yet, the ones who never learned the language often have resentment, as well. 

So, we are all learning Chinese, it&#039;s not something we&#039;ll send them off to learn. We do it as a family.

I&#039;m sure RK and I are going to make our own mistakes, but we&#039;re trying hard to learn from the families who have gone before us so we don&#039;t make their mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RK and I knew a decent amount of Chinese before adopting, and we&#8217;ve learned a lot more in the years since we adopted GG.</p>
<p>One of the things I learned from adult adoptees was that you shouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;this is your culture, go learn about it&#8221;. That puts the child separate from the family and makes them feel as if they are &#8220;different&#8221;. It can also make them resent learning about the culture of their birth country. So many of them had such bad feelings around being dropped off to learn &#8220;their culture&#8221;, I didn&#8217;t want to do that to my kids. Yet, the ones who never learned the language often have resentment, as well. </p>
<p>So, we are all learning Chinese, it&#8217;s not something we&#8217;ll send them off to learn. We do it as a family.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure RK and I are going to make our own mistakes, but we&#8217;re trying hard to learn from the families who have gone before us so we don&#8217;t make their mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: devorah</title>
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		<dc:creator>devorah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW.  I am so impressed by your ability to have a meal speaking Chinese.  I&#039;m curious if you knew the language before adopting, or if you studied it afterwards.  I am so daunted by Chinese for some reason.  And yet, I really want to learn.  We have a great Chinese School on Saturdays a mile from us!  Maybe I have to sign up for classes for ALL of us...  :)

As for books--friends recently bought this one.  I just love the title of the book, so that&#039;s enough to peak my interest.  :)  It&#039;s a little older than tweens, but they bought it for their tween.

Get Out of My Life, but First Could You Drive Me &amp; Cheryl to the Mall: A Parent&#039;s Guide to the New Teenager

http://www.amazon.com/Life-First-Could-Drive-Cheryl/dp/0374528535</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW.  I am so impressed by your ability to have a meal speaking Chinese.  I&#8217;m curious if you knew the language before adopting, or if you studied it afterwards.  I am so daunted by Chinese for some reason.  And yet, I really want to learn.  We have a great Chinese School on Saturdays a mile from us!  Maybe I have to sign up for classes for ALL of us&#8230;  :)</p>
<p>As for books&#8211;friends recently bought this one.  I just love the title of the book, so that&#8217;s enough to peak my interest.  :)  It&#8217;s a little older than tweens, but they bought it for their tween.</p>
<p>Get Out of My Life, but First Could You Drive Me &amp; Cheryl to the Mall: A Parent&#8217;s Guide to the New Teenager</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-First-Could-Drive-Cheryl/dp/0374528535" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Life-First-Could-Drive-Cheryl/dp/0374528535</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mom2Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom2Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;babygirlsmom2 Says: 
A while back I also came across something that said that the tween/early teen years, are really like the age 2-3 all over again, but at another level of understanding.&quot;

I have had many friends say to me, (regarding my soon-to-be 4YO), that what   
I am currently experiencing with her will not be unlike what awaits me when puberty hits. (Hers, not mine.) 

I have to say that, as a high school teacher of freshmen, there appears to be a lot of validity to that. I deal with the SAME things ... only in bigger (more hormonal) bodies.

BTW...  I see the same &quot;anglification&quot; [is that even a word?] in some of my Spanish textbooks: rosbif (roastbeef), honron (homerun), pudin (pudding). 

: )
M2I
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;babygirlsmom2 Says:<br />
A while back I also came across something that said that the tween/early teen years, are really like the age 2-3 all over again, but at another level of understanding.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have had many friends say to me, (regarding my soon-to-be 4YO), that what<br />
I am currently experiencing with her will not be unlike what awaits me when puberty hits. (Hers, not mine.) </p>
<p>I have to say that, as a high school teacher of freshmen, there appears to be a lot of validity to that. I deal with the SAME things &#8230; only in bigger (more hormonal) bodies.</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;  I see the same &#8220;anglification&#8221; [is that even a word?] in some of my Spanish textbooks: rosbif (roastbeef), honron (homerun), pudin (pudding). </p>
<p>: )<br />
M2I<br />
<a href="http://www.MyChineseShamrock.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MyChineseShamrock.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: RumorQueen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GG goes to Chinese school for a few hours on the weekend. Her regular school does not teach Mandarin.

Most of what she knows she&#039;s learned from RK and I, and from videos and songs and just playing around with it. She&#039;s learning about pinyin in Chinese classes, and a little bit of Chinese characters, too. We mostly just do conversation stuff at home.

When we decide to &quot;speak Chinese&quot; for a set amount of time, we end up with part chinese and part english, and when someone says something half and half we all decide how best to say it in Chinese, or we help by filling in the words the person didn&#039;t know. Sometimes I have my netbook handy so I can look words up, but we don&#039;t do that when we are eating.

That meal was a good one to speak Chinese in because you had to ask for tomato, onion, pickles, etc.

TT doesn&#039;t contribute much in Chinese - she knows fruits and vegetables and parts of the body and colors and she can count, but that&#039;s pretty much it. She&#039;ll say a few words in Chinese when we do that, but mostly she struggles with English too much to focus much on Chinese. She&#039;s absorbing a lot, and when she&#039;s ready I&#039;m sure she&#039;ll put it to use. But she&#039;s not ready yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GG goes to Chinese school for a few hours on the weekend. Her regular school does not teach Mandarin.</p>
<p>Most of what she knows she&#8217;s learned from RK and I, and from videos and songs and just playing around with it. She&#8217;s learning about pinyin in Chinese classes, and a little bit of Chinese characters, too. We mostly just do conversation stuff at home.</p>
<p>When we decide to &#8220;speak Chinese&#8221; for a set amount of time, we end up with part chinese and part english, and when someone says something half and half we all decide how best to say it in Chinese, or we help by filling in the words the person didn&#8217;t know. Sometimes I have my netbook handy so I can look words up, but we don&#8217;t do that when we are eating.</p>
<p>That meal was a good one to speak Chinese in because you had to ask for tomato, onion, pickles, etc.</p>
<p>TT doesn&#8217;t contribute much in Chinese &#8211; she knows fruits and vegetables and parts of the body and colors and she can count, but that&#8217;s pretty much it. She&#8217;ll say a few words in Chinese when we do that, but mostly she struggles with English too much to focus much on Chinese. She&#8217;s absorbing a lot, and when she&#8217;s ready I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;ll put it to use. But she&#8217;s not ready yet.</p>
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		<title>By: cellule</title>
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		<dc:creator>cellule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the mayo story... Got some in french too! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the mayo story&#8230; Got some in french too! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: klem</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RQ: If I recall correctly, your girls go to Chinese school (as opposed to the more commercial language schools). Do they use pinyin at their school? 

It sounds like you are doing a lot of work on conversation, which is good. We have been at DD&#039;s school for three years and haven&#039;t gotten anything close to what you are able to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RQ: If I recall correctly, your girls go to Chinese school (as opposed to the more commercial language schools). Do they use pinyin at their school? </p>
<p>It sounds like you are doing a lot of work on conversation, which is good. We have been at DD&#8217;s school for three years and haven&#8217;t gotten anything close to what you are able to do.</p>
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