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		<title>By: nanbwill</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked Talking with Young Children about Adoption by Watkins and Fisher http://www.amazon.com/Talking-Young-Children-about-Adoption/dp/0300063172/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258729007&amp;sr=8-1

The real life examples helped me to look at it the way children think, instead of the adult perspective.  The research is a chapter on its own, so you can read or not read, depending on your interest in that aspect.

While not a parenting book, I&#039;m finding Learned Optimism by Martin Seligman a very insightful read (but kind of heavy on the research side)  It does have some chapters on helping your child to be optimistic and therefore happier.
http://www.amazon.com/Learned-Optimism-Change-Your-Mind/dp/1400078393/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258729130&amp;sr=1-1

I agree with RQ&#039;s thoughts on you don&#039;t always need to agree with the author, you just need to learn alternatives to help form your own style for what fits your family.  I have found that some things I couldn&#039;t make fit my style when my kids were little, fit well as they got older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked Talking with Young Children about Adoption by Watkins and Fisher <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Talking-Young-Children-about-Adoption/dp/0300063172/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258729007&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Talking-Young-Children-about-Adoption/dp/0300063172/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258729007&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
<p>The real life examples helped me to look at it the way children think, instead of the adult perspective.  The research is a chapter on its own, so you can read or not read, depending on your interest in that aspect.</p>
<p>While not a parenting book, I&#8217;m finding Learned Optimism by Martin Seligman a very insightful read (but kind of heavy on the research side)  It does have some chapters on helping your child to be optimistic and therefore happier.<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Learned-Optimism-Change-Your-Mind/dp/1400078393/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258729130&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Learned-Optimism-Change-Your-Mind/dp/1400078393/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258729130&amp;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>I agree with RQ&#8217;s thoughts on you don&#8217;t always need to agree with the author, you just need to learn alternatives to help form your own style for what fits your family.  I have found that some things I couldn&#8217;t make fit my style when my kids were little, fit well as they got older.</p>
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		<title>By: TR1140</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One parenting book that I loved was &quot;Soft-Spoken Parenting&quot; by Dr. H. Wallace Goddard.  It&#039;s a fast and easy read, with some great  advice for parents.   I found it particularly useful when my daughter was in the terrible-three&#039;s (she skipped the terrible two&#039;s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One parenting book that I loved was &#8220;Soft-Spoken Parenting&#8221; by Dr. H. Wallace Goddard.  It&#8217;s a fast and easy read, with some great  advice for parents.   I found it particularly useful when my daughter was in the terrible-three&#8217;s (she skipped the terrible two&#8217;s).</p>
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		<title>By: jdb</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand Faber&#039;s attitude toward conferences a little differently -- I believe she opposes parent-imposed consequences, which are different from natural consequences.  e.g., the natural consequence of throwing your milk at your brother (real-life example from my morning...) is that it makes a mess somebody needs to clean up (preferably the thrower), and you&#039;re out of milk.  A parent-imposed consequence would be a time out, or perhaps the removal of some privilege.

I abhor the &quot;Love and Logic&quot; books.  We took classes on that method &amp; tried it for about a year, and my husband &amp; I both feel we damaged our relationship with our son.  We hope it&#039;s not permanent damage.

My favorites include Raising Your Spirited Child, Unconditional Parenting, and Beyond Consequences, Logic and Control.  I think the common theme among these books is that parenting &amp; discipline is not so much about changing a child&#039;s behavior as it is about the strength of the relationship between parent and child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand Faber&#8217;s attitude toward conferences a little differently &#8212; I believe she opposes parent-imposed consequences, which are different from natural consequences.  e.g., the natural consequence of throwing your milk at your brother (real-life example from my morning&#8230;) is that it makes a mess somebody needs to clean up (preferably the thrower), and you&#8217;re out of milk.  A parent-imposed consequence would be a time out, or perhaps the removal of some privilege.</p>
<p>I abhor the &#8220;Love and Logic&#8221; books.  We took classes on that method &amp; tried it for about a year, and my husband &amp; I both feel we damaged our relationship with our son.  We hope it&#8217;s not permanent damage.</p>
<p>My favorites include Raising Your Spirited Child, Unconditional Parenting, and Beyond Consequences, Logic and Control.  I think the common theme among these books is that parenting &amp; discipline is not so much about changing a child&#8217;s behavior as it is about the strength of the relationship between parent and child.</p>
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		<title>By: 2qts4me</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, there is way too much high fiving for doing what they are suppose to do, and too much gushing praise for doing something not unusual.  When my kids make their beds and tidy their rooms, I thank them for remembering to do it, but I don&#039;t jump around the room with a camcorder filming it or gushing endless praise.  They are suppose to do that, it is part of living with a family.

Most young children have very little concept of the word gratitude, so why would they keep a journal on it.   My friend was absolutely blown away by all the pomp and ceremony that went with her dd graduating from kindergarten.  She said this is going overboard.  Her dd thought she had finished with school LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, there is way too much high fiving for doing what they are suppose to do, and too much gushing praise for doing something not unusual.  When my kids make their beds and tidy their rooms, I thank them for remembering to do it, but I don&#8217;t jump around the room with a camcorder filming it or gushing endless praise.  They are suppose to do that, it is part of living with a family.</p>
<p>Most young children have very little concept of the word gratitude, so why would they keep a journal on it.   My friend was absolutely blown away by all the pomp and ceremony that went with her dd graduating from kindergarten.  She said this is going overboard.  Her dd thought she had finished with school LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: cmbj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DD#1 is 6 and has been taking ballet since 2.  This year she has a teacher who only says great job...and with so much enthusiasm.  It makes me want to throw up!  DD#1 is at the point where she really wants to get better.  Constructive criticism...yes, kids can take it.  Moving on next year to another dance studio and I know what to look for now.

The only parenting book that I&#039;ve found to be helpful for understanding my kids and DH is Raising Your Spirited Child.  A few techniques have been helpful but more than anything it has given me an understanding of both of my daughters AND DH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DD#1 is 6 and has been taking ballet since 2.  This year she has a teacher who only says great job&#8230;and with so much enthusiasm.  It makes me want to throw up!  DD#1 is at the point where she really wants to get better.  Constructive criticism&#8230;yes, kids can take it.  Moving on next year to another dance studio and I know what to look for now.</p>
<p>The only parenting book that I&#8217;ve found to be helpful for understanding my kids and DH is Raising Your Spirited Child.  A few techniques have been helpful but more than anything it has given me an understanding of both of my daughters AND DH.</p>
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		<title>By: LouiseMe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a parenting book, but one book I found extremely interesting was NurtureShock by Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman. The NY Magazine article about the inverse power of praise is included and elaborated on in the book. It&#039;s not a manual, but a presentation of various studies done of children and with children that have been misinterpreted or overlooked. For example, how telling kids &quot;good job&quot; has the opposite effect, why kids in multi-ethnic schools are less likely to have cross-racial friendships, how making a child keep a &quot;gratitude journal&quot; does nothing for teaching them gratitude, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a parenting book, but one book I found extremely interesting was NurtureShock by Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman. The NY Magazine article about the inverse power of praise is included and elaborated on in the book. It&#8217;s not a manual, but a presentation of various studies done of children and with children that have been misinterpreted or overlooked. For example, how telling kids &#8220;good job&#8221; has the opposite effect, why kids in multi-ethnic schools are less likely to have cross-racial friendships, how making a child keep a &#8220;gratitude journal&#8221; does nothing for teaching them gratitude, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: long4lia</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were you at my house last night? I would LOVE some great tips on parenting teens! Either that or skip those years! LOL Thanks for the book suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were you at my house last night? I would LOVE some great tips on parenting teens! Either that or skip those years! LOL Thanks for the book suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom2Isabel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2qts4me-
I love what you wrote. I think I&#039;ll print it and keep it on the wall in my office. Great advice.

RQ-
I couldn&#039;t agree with you more regarding consequences to behavior. As a teacher, I often feel like I have to work harder teaching my freshmen the importance of their decisions (and the consequences that follow) than I do with my 3YO daughter. 

Some of these teenagers seem astonished that I follow through with what I say I&#039;ll do... as if no one has ever done that in their life before. It both saddens me (because they have reached 14 years of age without anyone holding them accountable) and frustrates me (that a teacher is doing what a parent should have done over a decade before).

M2I
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2qts4me-<br />
I love what you wrote. I think I&#8217;ll print it and keep it on the wall in my office. Great advice.</p>
<p>RQ-<br />
I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more regarding consequences to behavior. As a teacher, I often feel like I have to work harder teaching my freshmen the importance of their decisions (and the consequences that follow) than I do with my 3YO daughter. </p>
<p>Some of these teenagers seem astonished that I follow through with what I say I&#8217;ll do&#8230; as if no one has ever done that in their life before. It both saddens me (because they have reached 14 years of age without anyone holding them accountable) and frustrates me (that a teacher is doing what a parent should have done over a decade before).</p>
<p>M2I<br />
<a href="http://www.MyChineseShamrock.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MyChineseShamrock.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: 2qts4me</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops that should be they are in their chosen field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops that should be they are in their chosen field.</p>
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		<title>By: 2qts4me</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never read a parenting book, however, the people that I felt could give me t he best advice was my dh&#039;s family.  They all have great kids, they are respectful, kind, compassionate and very successful in the things they do.  The older ones have all graduated from University and are not in their chosen field.  I found this quite astonishing since my family is completely opposite.  I asked them what techniques they raised to have such successful children.  These are the things they suggested and do.

1.  Be a parent, not a friend.
2.  Follow through with discipline.
3.  They only gave positive re-inforcement when it was deserved.
4.  If one of the children wanted to join something recreational then they had to finish it even if they didn&#039;t like it.  After the time period ended then they didn&#039;t have to do it again.  
5.  They all had chores to do.  If one of the girls wanted an expensive item of clothing, then they would put a certain amount of money towards it, the rest they had to save.
6.  They had family vacations twice a year, and one they could each bring a friend, the other was just family.
7. They said to listen to your children very carefully, not matter the age.  What they have to say is important too.
8. Nip any inappropriate behavior in the bud instantly, don&#039;t wait until later.
9. Do not allow your child to control the environment or argue with them.  You are the parent.  Listen, but you ultimately decide.  You can compromise with older children.
10.  Encourage them in everything they do, do not compare with other children in the house,
if the best they can achieve is a B, then celebrate that.  If you feel they can do better then positive guidance towards that goal is worked on.
11.  Community and helping others.
12.  They say as a family we laugh together, cry together and celebrate together.  You get what you put into it.

So far it has worked great with our kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never read a parenting book, however, the people that I felt could give me t he best advice was my dh&#8217;s family.  They all have great kids, they are respectful, kind, compassionate and very successful in the things they do.  The older ones have all graduated from University and are not in their chosen field.  I found this quite astonishing since my family is completely opposite.  I asked them what techniques they raised to have such successful children.  These are the things they suggested and do.</p>
<p>1.  Be a parent, not a friend.<br />
2.  Follow through with discipline.<br />
3.  They only gave positive re-inforcement when it was deserved.<br />
4.  If one of the children wanted to join something recreational then they had to finish it even if they didn&#8217;t like it.  After the time period ended then they didn&#8217;t have to do it again.<br />
5.  They all had chores to do.  If one of the girls wanted an expensive item of clothing, then they would put a certain amount of money towards it, the rest they had to save.<br />
6.  They had family vacations twice a year, and one they could each bring a friend, the other was just family.<br />
7. They said to listen to your children very carefully, not matter the age.  What they have to say is important too.<br />
8. Nip any inappropriate behavior in the bud instantly, don&#8217;t wait until later.<br />
9. Do not allow your child to control the environment or argue with them.  You are the parent.  Listen, but you ultimately decide.  You can compromise with older children.<br />
10.  Encourage them in everything they do, do not compare with other children in the house,<br />
if the best they can achieve is a B, then celebrate that.  If you feel they can do better then positive guidance towards that goal is worked on.<br />
11.  Community and helping others.<br />
12.  They say as a family we laugh together, cry together and celebrate together.  You get what you put into it.</p>
<p>So far it has worked great with our kids.</p>
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