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Haitian Orphans (again)


I’m aware of several instances where organizations are working to get orphans (who were orphans before the quake) who have adoption paperwork already in process, out of Haiti and into various countries. I don’t believe there is anything we, as a community can do for those specific situations, because my understanding at this point is that it’s a matter of logistics, not paperwork. But, if there is something we can help out with by writing letters, please let us know.

But, there is something else I can do, so I’m going to lift a rule for this thread only: If you know of an agency or organization that has brought children out of Haiti, or is about to bring children out of Haiti, and is looking for prospective adoptive parents OR foster care for these children, you have permission to post an agency/organization name and contact information in this thread only. I’m going to warn people that I have no way of knowing whether any agency that gets posted is “good” or “bad”. Do not assume they must be legit if they are listed in this thread. Do not give any money (or social security numbers or anything else like that) until you’ve checked an agency out thoroughly. If it were me then before any money or super-personal information changed hands I’d want to verify that the agency had been in business at least a decade, and I’d want to be able to find where a whole lot of people have said something positive about the agency after they were home with their children (most people who are happy with their agency mention the agency and how great the agency is in their blog, so the agencies who are good and who have been around a while have lots of blog links out there with people telling their story). You might also want to do a search on the person who posted the agency information and see if they are a long time poster here or if this is their first post. Also, be aware that the USCIS does not approve of this, and to my knowledge has not made a statement of how these children (who have apparently been brought to the US without I600 or I800 paperwork already in process) are going to be treated re citizenship. It is doubtful they are going to get kicked out of the country (that would be a political nightmare), but no one knows at this point what might be required to legally adopt these children. My guess is that it will eventually be possible to do so (once someone can verify they are true orphans), I just want to point out that right now there are a whole lot of unknowns. And since there is (apparently) no paperwork, there is a chance someone in Haiti is looking for them and they will get to go home to a family at some point. Still, if we were looking to add to our family? If an opportunity was there then I’d probably take the leap and hope for the best if I could verify that the agency was a good one, and understanding that it was temporary until the child’s orphan status could be verified.

Also, I’m hearing about plans to bring more children (as in, thousands) into the U.S. all at once on airplanes. There are some precedents for this, there was Operation Peter Pan / Pedro Pan in Cuba in the 60′s, and then there was Operation Babylift in Vietnam in the 70′s. IIRC they did something similar in Korea in the 50′s, but I’m not sure it was given a name. At any rate, there is precedent for allowing a whole bunch of orphans into the U.S. who do not already have parents waiting for them. The U.S. government has not yet given the green light on this, and I’m unclear at this point who exactly gets the final word on it. If anyone out there has more information about it, please share. If it can be done in a way that ensures they are only bringing true orphans over then I’m all for it and would get behind it in a letter writing campaign. However, I would want someone overseeing the effort who can make sure things are done ethically. Someone with the ability and the clout to insist upon it.

Also, if there is something we need to be doing as a community – writing letters or contacting our representatives – please give details of what we should be asking for and who we should be asking it of and the best way(s) to contact those people. As I said at the beginning of this post: It sounds like there are still children in Haiti who have been matched with a family. If there is something we as a community can be doing to help get those children home, please let us know. I’m told that the red tape has been cut away on the USCIS end of things and that these children (with paperwork in process) are being allowed to come into the U.S., but if that’s not the case then please let me know.

We will revisit the proposed survey we talked about yesterday, but this needed to be posted today.


 
 
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50 Responses to “Haitian Orphans (again)”

  1. willowflower Says:

    This article discusses the airlift of children to the Netherlands. Most have adoptive parents, who were already in the process, waiting for them, but 9 of the children do not yet have parents. They will be trying to place those 9 children with families after they arrive.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gBKAf2e4pCdZfFDzWYAdlUgdtXaw

  2. willowflower Says:

    A quick article touching on some of the ethics concerns of airlifting children out of Haiti:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/haiti-qa-the-ethics-of-disaster-adoption-1873153.html

  3. RumorQueen Says:

    Thank you willowflower. I agree that any operation that would bring orphans out of Haiti needs to be done with oversight.

    At this point, it appears that there aren’t a lot of options for taking care of those children in Haiti, and if given the choice between 1) dying of dehydration or starvation, or 2) being taken out of Haiti into a foreign land… my guess is that most orphans would prefer to go anywhere (if they could talk) as long as they will get food and water wherever they are going.

    Also, there are a lot of former Pedro Pan orphans, who are now adults, who are involved in the efforts to bring children out of Haiti. More than one of them has been quoted in a news story as being in favor of it, or even as helping the efforts to make it happen.

  4. RumorQueen Says:

    One more note: hopefully whatever agency or social worker places these children will make sure that the foster parents or a-parents are properly educated about trauma and about racial issues on top of education about attachment and sensory issues.

  5. willowflower Says:

    RQ, I agree.

    I imagine it could take weeks, months….even years to figure who some of these children belong to and to determine if there are surviving family members who may be able to care for them. I hope they will not rush to have these children adopted by foreigners. Fostering seems like a much more appropriate solution until these things are sorted out.

  6. RumorQueen Says:

    It should not take years. If no one steps forward looking for a child within six or eight weeks then it’s probably safe to say no one is interested in whether the child survived or not. But I want someone there overseeing things who makes sure that people looking for a child find the child. I don’t want unscrupulous people keeping parents or grandparents or aunts or uncles away from a child so an agency can adopt a child out and get the money from a-parents for the adoption.

    But, at this point it is unclear whether the US Government is going to allow it in large numbers. I think some organizations are pulling the old “if you don’t ask permission they can’t tell you no” trick, and that’s probably going to work in these smaller numbers for a few more days, but at some point the government is probably going to stop it.

  7. scjchardy Says:

    It is my understanding that there are 140 orphans headed for Lima, OH through the organization listed below. Most have already been matched, but it is unclear whether there are others who have not.

    Name: HIS Home For Children

    Description:
    HIS Home For Children is an interdenominational Christian ministry that was developed to care for orphaned and abandoned children in Haiti. Hal and Chris Nungester founded the non-profit organization in 1999, and minister under the leadership of a Board of Directors comprised of Christian leaders from West Central Ohio and Northeastern New York. HIS Home For Children is funded entirely through charitable contributions. The purpose of this group is to raise awareness about the needs of HIS Home For Children, and to connect with those who would like to know more about international adoption. Please visit the website below to find out more.

    http://www.hishomeforchildren.com
    Office: (419)-999-1255
    Location:
    3172 W. Breese Road
    Lima, OH

  8. Noendinsight Says:

    i forget the exact percentage – but i believe it was around 50% of Haiti’s population is made up of children. estimates of deaths have been has high as 200K. there are going to be a lot of children needing homes.

  9. scdelacruz Says:

    Perhaps an interim solution for these children is to allow anyone who has been approved for an adoption to step in and serve as foster parents for these children. I’m sure there are many families who would open up their home and hearts for an indefinite time period for these children. I realize they need a permanent solution but that might not be possible in the short term.

    RQ…thanks for opening up the discussion.

    Susan
    LID 06-10-06

  10. kms Says:

    I find it interesting so many wanting to take in an orphan temporarily with the hopes of eventually adopting. It seems many of us picked countries like China because there was to temporary custody, of any substantial time period. Isn’t that why there are still foster kids in the US? It’s not a US vs Haiti debate. Every child should have a home. It’s just interesting seeing people who shy away from reunification, and I would be one of them wanting to take on this risk? Also parents leary of trama of kids fostered, certainly there would be trama in this case as well.

    Not original thought myself but it seems everyone in Haiti needs help. Kids, orphaned or not, adults. Relocating a small percentage of the population seems a drop in the bucket and an inefficient use of resources.

  11. pkchina2005 Says:

    There are still children in the process of adoption in Haiti. The House of God orphanage is trying to get theirs out. They were turned away from the embassy yesterday. The staff was allowed to enter. Had to go back to the orphanage to get photos of each child. They are returning to the embassy today. Hopefully, they will process all the paperwork for the children and allow the children to land in the US. There appears to be a plan to get them out if they get clearance. 60 of the 100+ children are under age 3.

    The issue for the children in process still in Haiti is getting cleared at the US embassy in PAP, which only has 2 people to process everyone – adults and orphans. Yesterday, there were 1400 people at the embassy trying to get processed. The orphans in process can get humanitarian parole but they are being forced to jump through the hoops to prove they are in process (despite paperwork being buried in the rubble).

    Catholic Charities I believe is the one trying to organize bringing in children who haven’t been matched as was done in Cuba for precisely the reasons you RQ mentioned – children will die if they stay in Haiti.

    All the people who have all these eloquent dissertations on trauma to children of such an airlift are ignoring one simple fact – the alternative to such an operation is DEATH. Oh so nice to be so concerned about children’s rights if there was a functioning government and infrastructure in place to mobilize care for the children’s basic survival needs (food, water, shelter, protection from gangs/robbers/looters). But that isn’t the case in Haiti and won’t be for a long time to come. Even what’s left of the Haitian government recognizes that anyone who can get out, should because they will have a better chance of SURVIVING than if they stay. Traumatized children who are ALIVE can be helped. Dead children can only be buried.

    Really, is preserving a child’s “right” to stay in their home country more important than preserving that child’s LIFE? Should they really have to fight every single day for physical survival or should they be allowed to let their emotional trauma surface in a family and a country that has the resources to help them deal with it and LIVE?

    I’m just so tired of all these “experts” who act like they are being so noble in protecting children’s rights, why those same children are dying. Their rights may be intact but they are dead nonetheless. Lot of good their rights do them then.

  12. RumorQueen Says:

    I’ve heard estimates that say there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 500,000 orphans… in an area smaller than Maryland. And in a very, very, poor country.

    In some areas I believe things are critical enough that the choice is to get them out (soon) or they are going to die. At what point do we say keeping them alive is more important than red tape? Removing them to keep them alive does not mean they can’t go back if family starts looking for them – right? What’s wrong with taking pictures of the children as you get them out of there and mounting plasticized pictures of them where the kids are (were), and with someone local listed that people can contact if a child they are looking for is one of the ones pictured? Those removing the kids need to understand they may be responsible for bringing them back if someone surfaces who is looking for the child.. but wouldn’t that be better than leaving them there to die?

    In areas where death is not imminent and where they are getting the basics of food and water and whatever medical care they may need then sure, they should remain in place unless they already have paperwork identifying them as an orphan.

    But as I’ve repeatedly said, I want someone (some organization) on the ground in Haiti with the experience and the clout to make sure people are matched up with children that they are looking for. I do not want a situation where people are looking for a child and can’t get them back.

    Also, didn’t the Haitian government ask for help? I do not believe they are protesting other countries taking these children to safety. If they were, that would also make a difference. They know they can’t keep them alive, they are asking for help.

  13. burdie Says:

    RQ, I am surprised by your arrogance. The children are here in South Florida, just because it was not in the news does not mean it did not happen.

    As for your comments about the agencies or social workers to make sure foster parent are properly educated about race and trauma, you do not know what you are talking about. this is part of the training.

    Don’t worry, YOU do not need to make sure things are being done ethically, those involved can handle this.

    I was a fan of your site, but after reading your last comment am disgusted. I don’t care if you keep this post or not. Your comments to those of us that are helping and your references to my statements being untrue are insulting and I would not want people who want to help become discouraged by your statements.

    By the way, this is only my second posting, so I guess I do not know what I am talking about. My 20 years of experience working with children must mean nothing.

  14. RumorQueen Says:

    Burdie? You are reading things into what I’m saying. What do you mean “the children are here in South Florida”? Are you saying that every orphan in Haiti has been rescued? Seriously?

    And I’ve never said anyone’s statements are not true. I’m not sure what you’ve been reading.

    A lot of children have been brought to the US and to other countries. I am thrilled that things are happening to keep these children from dying of dehydration and starvation. I also want to make sure there is some oversight. Just because your organization is acting ethically does not mean all organizations are acting ethically. There will be people who will try to make money off of the situation. Sad, but true. I want oversight to keep people from purposefully keeping children from their families just so they can get money when they facilitate that child’s adoption. I’m not saying your organization will do that, but some will. And some won’t take the time to make sure a-parents and foster parents are educated. If your organization is doing that then great! But it doesn’t mean all of them will.

    Please, don’t put words in my mouth that I did not say.

  15. SEAMOM Says:

    Hillary Clinton had a press conference yesterday that I heard on NPR addressing this issue.

    “Clinton said food, water, medical supplies and other essential aid continue to flow into the country and that aid workers are working around-the-clock to deliver those supplies. But, with a devastated infrastructure in the Caribbean island nation’s capital, limited transportation and security issues, the challenges remain steep. “One area we are urgently focused on is the plight of Haitian orphans,” she said of the thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of children who were left without parents after the devastating 7.0-magnitude earthquake that struck last Tuesday.
    “We will also be doing everything we can to unite the many children and families that have been separated in the aftermath of the earthquake and to do all that we can to expedite the travel of children who were in the line for adoption who have a legal, permanent home [or] guardianship waiting for them. We will not let red tape stand in the way of helping those in need.”

    She said she shared the anxiety of the several hundred Americans in the United States who are worried about the fate of the children they had been in the process of adopting.

    “We are doing everything possible to locate these children and then expedite their arrival in our country,” she said.

    She added that the State Department is heading up a joint task force with the Office of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services to make sure the adoptions are carried out properly.
    She also said all International Adoption Standards will be followed…

  16. RumorQueen Says:

    pkchina2005 – I wonder if we can start writing letters to let Congress know there are only two people trying to get over a thousand babies in process for an adoption out of the country? Maybe they can send more people who can process paperwork? Or maybe they can do something to allow them out of the country if they have paperwork, and then make arrangements for the checking and rubber stamping to happen once they arrive in the U.S.?

  17. RumorQueen Says:

    Seamom – I posted before I saw your comment… maybe our letters should go to Hillary Clinton. If she gets 10,000 emails saying the same thing, maybe she’ll get the message?

  18. RumorQueen Says:

    kms – people step up in an emergency, where they won’t when it’s not an emergency.

    Also, most kids in US foster care are not available for adoption and will probably never be available for adoption, and will not stay with the same family for longer than two to four years before being moved elsewhere by the system. Most of the kids in Haiti who are being removed from orphanages will end up being available for adoption. Not all, but most. Big difference.

    I’m not sure I understand your statement about use of resources. The poor use of resources would be to hire an army of people to fight thieves every couple of days to get food and water to every orphanage, and to hire armed guards at every orphanage to keep thieves and robbers from steeling said food and water from every orphanage. Especially when that could last for years before order is restored. Isn’t it much better to remove any orphans from that environment and get them to safety?

  19. SEAMOM Says:

    RQ,

    When I was listening on NPR I heard Hillary Clinton say something like “we won’t let illegal human traffickers take advantage of this situation.” I have been trying to find a transcript to get the direct quote but can’t find it. I immediately thought…”wow, she is on top of it” … which is reassuring.

  20. kms Says:

    I would like set it place a security force. I would like buildings constructed and workers protected while that occurs. I’d like our hands in building their infrastructure up, not just relocating a small percent of the vulnerable. Is there a location within the boarders of Haiti where kids could be taken away from the cities and more properly secured? There are so many places where kids will die in their environment. Do we airlift them all away?

    People do step up in an emergency.

  21. mom2girls Says:

    I am just wandering if this is permanent decisions made here or temporary ones. I am thinking about the idea of taking orphans out of the country temporarily or permanently? The ones that were not clear for adoption yet. I am just thinking that ok these kids get here, they stay here for some time (years?) and than someone decides they need to go back? Just imagine going from US/Canada back to Haiti after some time. I just hope someone is thinking it through and make decisions that are long term as in permanent rather than short term. Just thinking here. But the emergency supplies must speed up in distribution and whoever is distributing them must have orphanages in mind to organize aid for them specifically. This is very difficult situation for sure.

  22. RumorQueen Says:

    And how many children will die while they are building a new infrastructure?

    Sometimes you do what you can, not what the ideal would seem to be.

    It’s like the guy rescuing starfish on the beach, there are a hundred thousand starfish and a guy is throwing some of them back in the water. Someone tells him there are too many, he can’t possibly make a difference all by himself. And he says, as he throws one in the water “I made a difference to that one”.

    There are going to be all kinds of issues these kids will deal with. I’ve gone out of my way so my kids know I did not “rescue” them… but that isn’t going to be able to be said for these kids. Sure, it’s not an ideal situation. But would it be better to let them die?

  23. bsinchina Says:

    Recent news reports out of Florida indicate that there will not be a repeat of the Pedro Pan/ Peter Pan scenario.

    This week’s Homeland Security Update explains they will only be issuing travel documents for two categories of children: 1. children legally confirmed as orphans eligible for intercountry adoption AND being adopted by U.S. citizens; 2. children previously identified by an adoption service provider as eligible for intercountry adoption and matched to a U.S. citizen for adoption. Here is the link to the press release: http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1263861907258.shtm

    What’s not clear is who is covered in category number 1. Even before the quake, there were an estimated 380,000 orphans in Haiti.

    Finally, I know our China agency now runs a Haiti program, and they have been able to get resources to the creche (orphanage) they work with in Haiti. There are many great agencies to donate money to, but if you’re interested in it going specifically to an orphanage, there are reputable groups doing so. (I’m not naming the agency because they are no lifting children out of Haiti in response to the earthquake.)

  24. portlandval Says:

    I have been crying in front of the TV for the past week and my daughter said, why are we just watching all this…can’t we do something? I wish there was specific information about this topic besides donations. Personally, I think it may be the church groups that already have missions in Haiti that may be the key and then our government will go along with what they already have in place. I am going to check on this and I’ll be watching for what letters we can write.

    Also, there will be a HUGE need in the future to help people get and use artificial limbs. This doesn’t have anything to do with adoption but I keep wondering about how to fulfill all these people’s needs. Thanks for the discussion about this.

  25. RumorQueen Says:

    That news release is from a few days ago and just stated what they could legally do at that point in time, without intervention from higher up in government. There are still discussions about allowing more to come in than just those who fit that criteria, and how that might work.

  26. Purple Monkey Says:

    I know two people who were airlifted out of Vietnam as infants and both are now 30-something with a family. These people completely understands that their personal circumstances were different than most international adoptions and are unabashedly “grateful” for being “rescued”. Most of the gratitude and the “obligation” of being rescued is to the nurses and military personnel who made the airlift happen, not the adoptive parents.

    I have some other friends who are refugees from several different places at different times and from what I see, the Operation Babylift friends seem to self identify more as refugees than international adoptees.

    Not long after the airlift, there was a class action law suit in California initiated on behalf of the birth parents and relatives of the children removed in Operation Babylift. I *think* ultimately it was dismissed because they were unable to certify a class – meaning they could not find a single representative birth parent.

  27. Purple Monkey Says:

    Oops – did a little more checking.

    Regarding the class action suit in the 1980s to reunite Operation Babylift children with their birth parents. It was not that they couldn’t find birthparents, it was that the judge did not recognize a class and said cases had to proceed individually. Different sites give different info but it seems that about a dozen kids were put back in contact with birth parents.

    I think a lot of the legal issues had to do with documentation, which is going to be an issue in Haiti as well. Although now, compared to 1970s/1980s, there is DNA testing.

  28. Noendinsight Says:

    Burdie – first of all “The children are here in South Florida, just because it was not in the news does not mean it did not happen.” If it’s not in the news, how are we supposed to know? RQ deliberately choose this discussion to OPEN communication on this issue. If all the orphans of Haiti made it to Florida, well bravo. Guess we can move on to something else since the problem is solved.

    “As for your comments about the agencies or social workers to make sure foster parent are properly educated about race and trauma, you do not know what you are talking about. this is part of the training.” Really? Wow, what an ideal world you live in. Guess every agency and social worker is on the up-and-up?

    “Don’t worry, YOU do not need to make sure things are being done ethically, those involved can handle this.” You’re faulting someone for trying to help and bring awareness to the subject? Talk about arrogance.

    If you have so much expertise, what don’t you contribute to the discussion and help educate rather than insult?

  29. Noendinsight Says:

    BTW burdie – most imortant rule on this site is BE NICE.

  30. scdelacruz Says:

    We may all have different ideas about which solution is best, but it is obvious we are all pasionate about children! Hopefully everyone can come together and work towards a solution. I agree, if the process gets strangled in red tape, children will die.

    There are many of us that have donated funds but would like to do more. I pray we get the chance.

  31. 2qts4me Says:

    My dd is Haitian, and I am not sure what her orphanage is going t o be doing to get the children to their families. They are living in a Church at the moment. However, there is a large Catholic organization that has lots of babies that they want out of the country regardless of their orphan status. They said that there will be many more.
    I saw them on the news, and the babies were very young.

    Our dd’s orphange was Foyer De Sion . It was run by Guesno and Majorie Mardy. They adopt babies and children to France, Canada and the USA. I know God’s Little Angels has been talked about in t he forums. I guess some orphanages are trying to get their children home to their already approved adoptive parents, and others are wanting to bring babies/toddlers/children to Florida and place with pre-approved families just waiting for a referal. All these children were orphans before the quake.

  32. SEAMOM Says:

    “Three aid groups called Thursday for an immediate halt to any new adoptions of Haitian children after last week’s earthquake.

    Save the Children, World Vision and a unit of the British Red Cross said the focus first must be on tracing any family members that children may still have and reuniting them.

    “Any hasty new adoptions would risk permanently breaking up families, causing long-term damage to already vulnerable children, and could distract from aid efforts in Haiti,” the agencies said in a joint statement.

    Read the Article at http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/21/haiti.adoptions/index.html?hpt=T1

  33. Noendinsight Says:

    there are a lot of orphanages in haiti with children who are already free and clear for adoption. many were held up on the US side in terms of paperwork. it would be nice to see those children find homes….of course you always worry about trafficking…this world is a mess.

  34. RumorQueen Says:

    SEAMOM – thanks for the news link.

    I completely agree that children who were not already identified as orphans should absolutely not be placed for adoption. That doesn’t mean all adoptions should stop though – those previously identified as orphans, and who have the paperwork to prove it, should be allowed to be adopted. Others should be allowed to be moved to a safe place, if the place they are located is not safe.

    Also, someone emailed me about this earlier and I was trying to verify it, but with it in this article, I’ll talk about it:

    Here is the part from the article:

    “We are concerned not only about premature overseas adoption but also about children increasingly being sent unaccompanied to the Dominican Republic,” he said.

    Someone emailed me that there are some traffickers taking these kids already, and that they are taking them into countries where they will be sold as human slaves. Not where they will be adopted. Law and order has broken down – the people with the guns and/or muscle are doing pretty much whatever they want.

    Doesn’t that make it even more critical that responsible organizations get these kids out of there?

  35. Noendinsight Says:

    as many as 2,000 children a year are trafficked to the dominican republic. approx 1,000 children are working as messengers, spies and even soldiers for armed gangs in port au prince.

  36. portlandval Says:

    My hope is that some order is restored enough to stop the trafficking of these kids. It is horrible to think about.

    It may take awhile but I’ll bet there will eventually be an airlift of children. It is nice to think that enough resources could flow there to support the children but how long would that take?

  37. kms Says:

    Aid groups don’t typically like adoption even when the government is relatively stable and a disaster didn’t just happen.

  38. Mayken Says:

    The quickest way to get attention from SoS Clinton about the visaissue is by calling her office: 202-647-4000
    Or you can use their email/comment page: http://tinyurl.com/yldz9hf (she does respond, or I should stay her staff does, and fairly quickly at that.) Letter writing is of course good but takes too long if we want immediate action on this issue.

    If this has already been posted, my apologies.

  39. RumorQueen Says:

    What wording should people use?

    ———-
    Thank you for allowing humanitarian parole for those orphans in Haiti already in process for an adoption. However, paperwork must still be processed, and there are only two people trying to process over 1,000 applications. Is there anything that can be done to help this bottleneck to get children to safety as quickly as possible?
    ———-

    Does that work? I’m about to leave and I won’t be back on the computer until late tonight or possibly early tomorrow morning. If what I’ve done doesn’t do the job then try to get some wording worked out, and those reading this can contact the SoS using the above information, and then I’ll post it to the blog when I can so it will get more eyeballs.

  40. EthioChinaadopt Says:

    I just want to remind everyone who may be hoping or wishing to help by adopting one of these children(if this is a possibility) that many of these children will not be “babies”. There could be many school aged children that may be in need of families. Many times we think about adoption but only if the child is under 24 months, but the reality is in countries like Haiti there are many toddlers and school aged child in need of families.
    I work for an agency for Ethiopia adoption and we could have 30 families waiting for a baby and 4 toddlers as “waiting children” .
    So I am hoping that all the children who may be brought to the US will fined loving families.

  41. tearoses1 Says:

    chinese children adoption international (once a china-only agency), began offering haitian adoptions months ago. efforts to help ramping up. http://www.chinesechildren.org for more info.

  42. Mayken Says:

    Rumor Queen, thanks, that sounds fairly reasonable. Better than my blabbering at them all un-rehearsed on the phone. They were quite polite, of course, though I got the usual “we’ll look into this” type answer. But I will be very surprised if we don’t hear something positive about this in short order.

  43. portlandval Says:

    It was very easy to submit a comment on the SoS Clinton website using my own language for the information posted above and url below. I hope there is a speed up for it truly could mean life and death for these kids.

    office: 202-647-4000

    Or you can use their email/comment page:

    http://tinyurl.com/yldz9hf

  44. windthrow Says:

    A somewhat related article

    http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/tragedy-exploited-a-sad-history-repeating-itself-in-haiti/

  45. RumorQueen Says:

    Right Windthrow, because those Jewish children would have been so much better off to have been left in Germany and put into concentration camps. Anne Frank didn’t have to deal with pesky therapy later in life – she was so much better off staying put… right?

    (that was sarcasm, for those that missed it)

    Seriously, do some of these people think it better to leave kids to an almost certain death than to rescue them?

    I just don’t get it.

  46. windthrow Says:

    Am not sure who you are referring to when you say “these people” RQ. All I took out of that article is that there is a fairly large group of people who think that everything possible should be done to help these children with the sole qualification that adoption should be left out of it in these early stages after the disaster.

  47. mew Says:

    Bravo RQ for breaking your own rules. I hope much good will come from this post. I have just contacted SoS Clinton at the State Department re: increasing staff processing the children. Will keep my fingers crossed!

  48. somedaymama Says:

    Honest to God, I am about to lose it!

    As RQ has said, many of these children face certain death! I am certain that there are many, many families – even on this very site, that would take any one of these children into their homes in a heartbeat. For many of us, this is not even about growing our own family, but rather offering a bed, food and a loving family until such time as their permanent family can be located or established. Isn’t that better than dying in the street or being sold into slavery?

    If, in the end, they need permanent placement in our homes, so be it. But, we are so far from knowing their long term needs right now. Let’s just get as many as possible into safe homes.

    This really isn’t about what PAPs want, it’s about what PAPs might be able to provide.

  49. Proud2Adopt Says:

    EthioChinaadopt – the issue is that if someone is paying $30,000 to adopt a child, they want a baby! Its as simple as that! I’m really tired of hearing about how so many of these kids are just split from their parents. Lets get the 380,000 kids that were ALREADY orphans OUT of the country & into waiting homes, that way the focus of orphanages can be on those children who are NEW orphans or split from parents & families. The reality to me is, I would LOVE to adopt one of these children. No, this isn’t a NEW passion spurred from seeing photos on TV. But hopefully with the dire situation they will waive much of the 25K+ fees for families like mine to adopt one of these children here! Amen!

  50. waiting4kiera Says:

    Since RQ lifted the rule about naming agencies for this post, this is an email I received from America World Adoption Agency:

    I am writing to update those who are interested in Haitian adoption. I participated in a conference today involving USCIS, US Dept. of State and the Dept. of Health and Human Services. At this time, the only children being processed for visas are those children who either had their adoption finalized within Haiti prior to the January 12th earthquake or those children who’ve already been accepted as a referral by families working with an adoption service provider. New adoption cases aren’t currently being processed.

    There is consideration of a policy to allow children in desperate circumstances to enter to the United States on a special humanitarian visa – but there are not yet details regarding which children might qualify and what their status would be regarding adoption.

    There is still much chaos and confusion in Haiti and many families are still trying to locate their loved ones. We were encouraged to know that the US government is very serious about not placing children who could still have a family or would not be appropriate for adoption. Our hearts and prayers are going out to the people of Haiti – especially the orphans in that country. When Haiti does have children available for adoption it is our agency’s intention to help find families for those orphans. If your family is interested in Haitian adoption, please email info@awaa.org with the subject “Haiti adoption interest.” We’ll compile a list of names and email addresses and inform families when there is more information.